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  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea
  • Weather Preferences: Warm, bright summers and Cold, snowy winters
  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea

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    Now that's a nice chart!!

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

    I do wish some of you would use standard meteorological terms, for energy do you mean low pressure for instance?

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: cold ,snow
  • Location: sheffield

    For what its worth GEM is a stonking run and the best of the day by a country milePosted Image Posted Image

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  • Location: sheffield
  • Weather Preferences: cold ,snow
  • Location: sheffield

    Not the coldest 850's in the world though

     

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    look to the north east and whats coming!!!!

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    gem out to t210 see cold pushing into scandi shame its the gem!!!

    but I always said the gem is very much like the ecm model but hey atleast there one model so far that's better for later outlook.

     

    but im buying into it until before t144 nick sussex timing theory holds true.

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  • Location: Wellington, NZ, about 120m ASL.
  • Location: Wellington, NZ, about 120m ASL.

    I do wish some of you would use standard meteorological terms, for energy do you mean low pressure for instance?

     

    Talking about "energy" seems to be a way of avoiding detail. I am not sure what people really mean when they're talking about "energy", and I doubt it's consistent from person to person. I've never heard a meteorologist use it when explaining a situation, but have seen the WPC discussions have it pop up from time to time. 

    Does anyone have a definition they want to put forward?

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  • Location: Dublin 131.2 feet asl (40m asl)m
  • Location: Dublin 131.2 feet asl (40m asl)m

    weather guy is that before height collapse though!

    if the models don't show enough low heights to the south it could easy recede south southeast allowing us to be on the wrong side of the cold well cooler air.

     

     

     

    My interpretation of the UKMO is that on the +144hrs chart this is where the lows in the western Atlantic are heading> The high is unlikely to sink after this.. doesent even really matter when we have such disagreement at +120hrs anyway... 

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  • Location: Northwich south cheshire 35m or 114ft above sea le
  • Weather Preferences: snowy winters,warm summers and Storms
  • Location: Northwich south cheshire 35m or 114ft above sea le

    Really don't know what the issue is here?

     

    Its going to turn colder,there will be snow for some and overnight frosts

     

    I think to many folk are still wrapped up with expecting 2010 all over again

     

    C.S

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  • Location: Near Keele, North Staffs
  • Location: Near Keele, North Staffs

    My interpretation of the UKMO is that on the +144hrs chart this is where the lows in the western Atlantic are heading> The high is unlikely to sink after this.. doesent even really matter when we have such disagreement at +120hrs anyway... 

     

    I think a T168 would see HP on top of us.

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Weather Preferences: Sunny and warm in the Summer, cold and snowy in the winter, simples!
  • Location: Manchester

    Talking about "energy" seems to be a way of avoiding detail. I am not sure what people really mean when they're talking about "energy", and I doubt it's consistent from person to person. I've never heard a meteorologist use it when explaining a situation, but have seen the WPC discussions have it pop up from time to time. 

    Does anyone have a definition they want to put forward?

     

    I don't really see meteorologists discussing the MO, I have no problem with the terminology myself even if it is somewhat vague.

    I would take it to mean the jet unless they had posted a pressure chart in which case I would assume they meant low pressure or a shortwave perhaps.

    The reality is the vast majority of us are not professional meteorologists primed and loaded with a sacrosanct terminology.

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  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea
  • Weather Preferences: Warm, bright summers and Cold, snowy winters
  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

    look to the north east and whats coming!!!!

     

    Not much for us looking at GEM the bulk of the cold stays east

     

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  • Location: ILCHESTER
  • Location: ILCHESTER

    Well as the saying goes you can't polish a turd, let alone two, but unfortunately that's precisely what the 12 GFS and UKMO are....at least by comparison to recent runs.  It's seems to me that the inexorable shift towards a less cold set up for the middle of next week is now starting to gather pace, with little if any prospect of snow for 90% of us on tonights outputs so far, but perhaps ECM will be able to offer at least some hope in an hour or so. 

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Talking about "energy" seems to be a way of avoiding detail. I am not sure what people really mean when they're talking about "energy", and I doubt it's consistent from person to person. I've never heard a meteorologist use it when explaining a situation, but have seen the WPC discussions have it pop up from time to time. 

    Does anyone have a definition they want to put forward?

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    polish a turd lol

     

    anyway summer sun not a snipe by far!

     

    but if the gem went out futher or a slight shift west and its game on but its also got nice low pressure into Europe helping to give sausage lol.

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  • Location: Inbhir Nis / Inverness - 636 ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: Freezing fog, frost, snow, sunshine.
  • Location: Inbhir Nis / Inverness - 636 ft asl

    Well as the saying goes you can't polish a turd, let alone two, but unfortunately that's precisely what the 12 GFS and UKMO are....at least by comparison to recent runs.  It's seems to me that the inexorable shift towards a less cold set up for the middle of next week is now starting to gather pace, with little if any prospect of snow for 90% of us on tonights outputs so far, but perhaps ECM will be able to offer at least some hope in an hour or so. 

     

    Not to be rude but any chance of even one chart or comment on the actual output?

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  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea
  • Weather Preferences: Warm, bright summers and Cold, snowy winters
  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea

    Suspense rises as we await 96...

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  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Sun, Heat, Cold,T/storms via Spanish plumes *rare*
  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni

    JMA looking good...

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Suspense rises as we await 96...

    I'll be dead by then!

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    t72 ecm looks better I think ecm could be a good run already.

    cheesed of I cant post charts grrrrr

     

    t92 little feature west of the high pressure in the alantic looks like high pressure is trying to build ne across the uk.

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