Far North of England Regional Discussion 28/10/13 ------ïƒ

[Summer Sun]

I reckon there will be another frost tomorrow night but early on before the wind and warmer air moves in early Tuesday morning. Certainly looking like a mostly sunny autumnal week, with temps staying in single figures even during the day.

 

The met office have Darlo at 8 or 9c every day till Thursday so we could get into double figures here as even they underestimate our max at times

 

Although its windy now it should become a lot lighter later on (after dusk) so a frost looks quite likely in the morning

Edited November 3, 2013 by Summer Sun

[Summer Sun]

With the exception of Tuesday we are in for a very sunny spell of weather

 

Edited November 3, 2013 by Summer Sun

[Boro Snow]

yeah monday night we are supposed to get a frost too, little signs or should i say trends appearing on the models for colder weather to develop in the 2nd half of november might be something to watch, i seem to remember a few months back the 2nd half of nov was meant to be cold   

Edited November 3, 2013 by Lee aka Boro Snow

[Skullzrulerz]

Northern England may get its first snowfall.

[Boro Snow]

i think its more pennines really, but lets hope we do

[Summer Sun]

yeah monday night we are supposed to get a frost too, little signs or should i say trends appearing on the models for colder weather to develop in the final third of november might be something to watch, i seem to remember a few months back the 2nd half of nov was meant to be cold   

 

Yeah we should get a frost for a time tomorrow night but it will lift quite quickly once a band of rain and cloud moves in during the early hours of Tuesday

 

Temps over the next week or so are likely to remain below the seasonal average

[Summer Sun]

i think its more pennines really, but lets hope we do

 

I looks more for the pennines and probably high ground in the Lakes

 

[Boro Snow]

currently 5.7c out there i reckon it will drop to about -1 tonight mindue i have not seen any gritters out so maybe not,  

[Summer Sun]

currently 5.7c out there i reckon it will drop to about -1 tonight mindue i have not seen any gritters out so maybe not,  

 

+1c is the met offices estimate

[Deep Snow please]

How cold does it need to be to snow, the idea of snow at 8c highs seems unlikely to me but then I log in here to see "we might get our first snowfall."

[Boro Snow]

Technically it has to be 0 degrees C (freezing) but it can snow at slightly warmer temperatures i.e. 4 degrees C. Last winter it bucketed it down with snow and it was 3 degrees C and it stuck to the ground. Other times it was freezing and it didn't stick (it just melted when it hit the ground). I think there are other factors that also affect whether precipitation falls as snow, sleet or rain. Anywhere under 4 degrees C and what falls out of the sky might be snow, dew point is what i look at more than the temp if the temp is around 3/4c

[Deep Snow please]

 

Technically it has to be 0 degrees C (freezing) but it can snow at slightly warmer temperatures i.e. 4 degrees C. Last winter it bucketed it down with snow and it was 3 degrees C and it stuck to the ground. Other times it was freezing and it didn't stick (it just melted when it hit the ground). I think there are other factors that also affect whether precipitation falls as snow, sleet or rain. Anywhere under 4 degrees C and what falls out of the sky might be snow, dew point is what i look at more than the temp if the temp is around 3/4c

 

Thanks. So we could get snowfall this month with the right conditions, i.e temps roughly staying at this rate and a band of precip hitting overnight. Obviously, I'm not expecting it but the thought's nice.

 

Anyway, today felt really cold, weird to think last month we were in the twenties. 

[Summer Sun]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the dew points play a big part as well for snow

[Summer Sun]

2.7c in Darlo atm with no wind

 

An air frost looks quite likely for the major towns and cities ground frost probably in rural parts

[Isolated Frost]

Got down to -1c at Durham Uni yesterday morning, already 2c there now. Brilliant weather recently, some sunny days, some heavy rain and snow for higher hills.

[Boro Snow]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the dew points play a big part as well for snow

thats what i said

[Boro Snow]

Nice ground frost this morning, current temp is 1.8c

[gordonm]

First frost here too! De icing the car!!

[Summer Sun]

Chilly old start in Darlo a fairly thick frost on the car

 

Lots of sunshine now its currently 5.3c

[Skullzrulerz]

Possible snow For north England 

 

[Summer Sun]

Possible snow For north England 

 

 

Looks mostly on the high ground the pennines and the Lakes could get a covering however the percentage isn't that high either 60% max

 

Another frosty night here car windscreen covered at 20:30

Edited November 4, 2013 by Summer Sun

[Summer Sun]

A cloudy damp start lifted the frost which formed last night, that cloud is now slowly breaking I can see blue sky starting to appear now to the north and west

Edited November 5, 2013 by Summer Sun

[4wd]

There looked to be a touch of slushy snow on the highest bit of moor this morning but don't quote me!It was kind of misty so hard to be sure without going up there.Certainly cold enough for wet snow to fall, -0.9C in the early hours and still only 4.5C, we only had a couple of mm rain

[Teesdale]

There looked to be a touch of slushy snow on the highest bit of moor this morning but don't quote me!It was kind of misty so hard to be sure without going up there.Certainly cold enough for wet snow to fall, -0.9C in the early hours and still only 4.5C, we only had a couple of mm rain

Clearer skies here last hour or so revealed snow down to approx 550/600m asl. Melting fast in sunny weather and warmer temps pushing East.Snow level lower further up valley.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2487760/UK-weather-Bonfire-Nights-white-Snow-falls-Northern-hills-temperatures-dipping-freezing-point.html http://twitter.com/paulkingstonnnp/status/397747656434647040/photo/1†Edited November 5, 2013 by Teesdale

[Summer Sun]

Up-to 7.7c now in Darlo