The Midlands Regional Weather Discussion 26/10/13 16z----->

[Potent Gust]

A lovely crisp clear morning here! Got down to minus 2 last night

[conor123]

After the coldest night of the Autumn with a low of -2.0c, the first frosty morning of the Autumn quickly changed from glorious sunshine to slate grey skies.

Currently grey and 4.8c, ick.

[Gord]

Here is a report for today.

 

Quiet, cloudy, chilly.

 

Feel free to copy and paste those 3 words during the next few days to save time when posting your reports.

[Dancerwithwings]

Here is a report for today.

 

Quiet, cloudy, chilly.

 

Feel free to copy and paste those 3 words during the next few days to save time when posting your reports.

You missed one other word,  To most of us its most fancied of late..... DRY

Edited November 23, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[weirpig]

what a lovely night .  looking through the telescope with my boy at the lovely stars clear and cold  proper winters  sorry  autumn  night

[Dancerwithwings]

t-x1.... This is the day (Sunday 14th December 1981) that it all started for me! Buried under snow and making an igloo in the back garden.....Oh those were the days

 

[I remember Atlantic 252]

cloud started to roll in from the east around 11pm last night. before that got down to -2.9C, have a feeling cloud will not go now

[Dancerwithwings]

Just look at the latest that the models are throwing out That'll stop you drooling..... lol

 

Mull of Kintyre .....It ain't for me either lol

Edited November 24, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[Bishop Brennan]

Mull of Kintyre .....It ain't for me either lol

 

I thought we agreed last year, any mentions of that infernal song are to be avoided at all costs?!! 

 

Seriously though, that chart you posted earlier from Dec 1981 is a thing of beauty 

 

Bish

[I remember Atlantic 252]

t-x1.... This is the day (Sunday 14th December 1981) that it all started for me! Buried under snow and making an igloo in the back garden.....Oh those were the days

 

 

Monday 14th Dec, uppers dont seem too cold

[Dancerwithwings]

Yes -4 to -5 uppers is marginal ! But we had 12" overnight Saturday and carried on most of Sunday, I was ten at the time and hadn't got a clue about weather back then,

But looking back now the key was it snowing at night and just how heavy it was, was a key factor, But it wasn't just the Midlands the south and southwest had it also.

 

If you look at the Dam-528 line on both days, Well south of us.

 

 

 

 

Whoops!...Sorry Sunday going into Monday, Come on......It was many a moon ago

Edited November 24, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[Bishop Brennan]

Yes -4 to -5 uppers is marginal ! But we had 12" overnight Saturday and carried on most of Sunday, I was ten at the time and hadn't got a clue about weather back then,

But looking back now the key was it snowing at night and just how heavy it was, was a key factor, But it wasn't just the Midlands the south and southwest had it also.

 

Also, I think I'm right in saying that those sort of marginal scenarios are the ones that often give the most copious amount of snow, because the flakes are so much bigger?

 

I believe the snow falls in Feb 2007 (or possibly 2009, can't be sure which) was one such example whereby the uppers were actually very marginal.

 

Bish

[Dancerwithwings]

Also, I think I'm right in saying that those sort of marginal scenarios are the ones that often give the most copious amount of snow, because the flakes are so much bigger?

 

I believe the snow falls in Feb 2007 (or possibly 2009, can't be sure which) was one such example whereby the uppers were actually very marginal.

 

Bish

Yes unless you've got very cold air in place ie, In coming from the east i think all uk snow fall is marginal

 

"marginal scenarios are the ones that often give the most copious amount of snow, because the flakes are so much bigger" Absolutely Bish,

 

Snow from the east with very cold air tends to be powdery, You can 4-5 hrs of snow and only have 1" to show for it... Now that's just not good at all.

 

But then a front coming in from the west and hitting cold air and stalling over us, Well a good 8" ....Now that's what were talking about

Edited November 25, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[Terminal Moraine]

Light shower of sleet falling here at present. Temperature is 2.8c.

[Bishop Brennan]

From a cold/snow perspective, the rest of the forum makes for some rather underwhelming reading this morning. Seemingly little on the horizon in terms of the model outputs or the Strat outlook.

 

It's all looking a bit "meh" at the moment, isn't it? Still very early though I suppose. Plus, last winter didn't really get going until mid-January.

 

Bish

[fizz511]

From a cold/snow perspective, the rest of the forum makes for some rather underwhelming reading this morning. Seemingly little on the horizon in terms of the model outputs or the Strat outlook. It's all looking a bit "meh" at the moment, isn't it? Still very early though I suppose. Plus, last winter didn't really get going until mid-January. Bish

Thinking of going back into hibernation frankly.Sigh.

[Dancerwithwings]

Afternoon all,  Theres plenty of doom and gloom regarding cold and more importantly snow, Well we are still 7 days away from winter yet and people are going on (Model thread)

as if winter's over,  The mind boggle's Anything past 72h-96h is not set in stone. We have more or less a week yet then proper winter actually begins and alot can happen

between now (25th nov) and then (1st Dec).

 

The trouble is folk look at the charts and what to see a winter seasonal brew of cold and snow, Sometimes you have to look at the longer picture! Baby steps that's what i say.

 

Some hope for coldies.... If you look at the (Diagrammes GEFS Chart for CET), Past the 2nd Dec there's not much agreement between the members and theres plenty of cold and very cold scenarios in there..... So where there's uncertainty there's plenty of room for change 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[Nick L]

In the Midlands for a few days, just watched the Midlands Today forecast and he said "we are looking at a very, very cold night indeed" - with temperatures on the map of just 0c! The Midlands is going soft...

[Dancerwithwings]

I thought we agreed last year, any mentions of that infernal song are to be avoided at all costs?!! 

Bish

 

"TX1 you & me are gonna fall out someday soon lol"

Don't be like that! Bish.... he-he... Remember 'We to all stand together'

 

Edited November 25, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[Dancerwithwings]

In the Midlands for a few days, just watched the Midlands Today forecast and he said "we are looking at a very, very cold night indeed" - with temperatures on the map of just 0c! The Midlands is going soft...

Had to laugh at that myself with temps in the country widely at a freezing,extremely,very very cold..... wait for it.......-2   ... Anyway,Come on the baggies

Edited November 25, 2013 by Dancerwithwings

[Nick L]

Had to laugh at that myself with temps in the country widely at a freezing,extremely,very very cold..... wait for it.......-2   ... Anyway,Come on the baggies

 

That's why I'm home for a few days, I've got my Arctic exploration gear ready for tonight for the extreme cold

[Nick L]

I'm pretty sure you'll squeeze a proper curry in Nick..Midlands the curry capital lol

As for very, very, very cold...steady on? these are perfectly normal temps Charlie Slater! Maybe a -8 and below we're getting there.

 

I got one in on Saturday night, don't worry about that, much better than the mildly spicy water that southerners call curry

 

It was bizarre. I only had it on in the background and heard him talking about bitterly cold temperatures etc. I looked at the screen expecting -5c in city centres - but it was at freezing in most of them! He even said "these are the temperatures in the towns, so in the country it will be even COLDER" - man up...

[Bishop Brennan]

"In the Midlands for a few days, just watched the Midlands Today forecast and he said "we are looking at a very, very cold night indeed" - with temperatures on the map of just 0c! The Midlands is going soft..."

 

lol just to put that into context, it is almost three years to the day since my local weather station recorded an overnight low of -8.5, easily the coldest November temp for many years round these parts 

 

I must have found it terribly exciting, because that very same day I finally plucked up the courage to become a member of Netweather 

 

Bish

Edited November 25, 2013 by Bishop Brennan

[Nick L]

 

In the Midlands for a few days, just watched the Midlands Today forecast and he said "we are looking at a very, very cold night indeed" - with temperatures on the map of just 0c! The Midlands is going soft...

lol just to put that into context, it is almost three years to the day since my local weather station recorded an overnight low of -8.5, easily the coldest November temp for many years round these parts 

 

I must have found it terribly exciting, because that very same day I finally plucked up the courage to become a member of Netweather 

 

Bish

 

 

I always read your posts in Len's...sorry...Bishop Brennan's voice

 

And how I wish we could go back to the good old days of a few winter ago 

[Dancerwithwings]

 

Blimey!