Snow and Ice in the Northern Hemisphere 2013/14

[Gavin Hannah]

Oooooh, the Ice could almost touch Iceland!!!  Eagerly awaiting tonight's IMS update.

[bryan629]

Oooooh, the Ice could almost touch Iceland!!!  Eagerly awaiting tonight's IMS update.

HI Ibth, if the ice extends all the way across from Greenland to Iceland...would this be sone sort of record, when was the last time this happened.thanks in advance

[Yarmy]

Belarus and a bit of Ukraine getting a good covering. More or less the first significant snow into Eastern Europe.

 

 

 

Still a couple of pixels away on the bridge.

 

Interesting the differences with this which had Scandi covered:

 

ftp://140.90.213.161/autosnow/4kmNH/multisensor_4km_nh_snow_ice_latlon_2013329.png

Edited November 26, 2013 by Yarmy

[NL]

The ski slopes of Poland have their first covering of the winter.

 

 

Plenty of live streaming cams.

http://oognet.pl/content/details/1141

[gottolovethisweather]

Belarus and a bit of Ukraine getting a good covering. More or less the first significant snow into Eastern Europe.

 

 

 

Still a couple of pixels away on the bridge.

 

Interesting the differences with this which had Scandi covered:

 

ftp://140.90.213.161/autosnow/4kmNH/multisensor_4km_nh_snow_ice_latlon_2013329.png

 

I suspect the differences exist due to the timing of when the satellite captured the image, i.e. at differing times of day. Nonetheless, good to see and I expect some decent progress over this coming week into early December. At this stage, I wouldn't rule out a Euro High moving on from then, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and with a bit of luck, that won't happen.

Edited November 26, 2013 by gottolovethisweather

[Gavin Hannah]

HI Ibth, if the ice extends all the way across from Greenland to Iceland...would this be sone sort of record, when was the last time this happened.thanks in advance

Last time? I keep forgetting but it was a long time ago. So yes, potentially a record.

[BornFromTheVoid]

Latest November sea ice extent based on the NSIDC data

 

 

We've had a very good rebound from the slow start, but still not enough to raise this year above the 6th lowest on record.

[Gavin Hannah]

There is always a lull in ice growth at the start of Nov. Looking at the NISDC data ovet 12 months.(on phone and cant post chart) You can see the last few years have all followed a similar pattern before resuming ice growth.

Edited November 26, 2013 by IBringTheHammer

[BornFromTheVoid]

There is always a lull in ice growth at the start of Nov. Looking at the NISDC data ovet 12 months.(on phone and cant post chart) You can see the last few years have all followed a similar pattern before resuming ice growth.

 

The odd year has shown a large slow down in early November but the growth from the 1st to the 8th is still 61k/day on average (79-11), but the growth this year from the 1st to the 8th was the smallest on record at 3.3k/day.

 

 

Stretching it out to the 1st to 13th, it was still second lowest on record. So I don't think it was following any normal pattern.

[Optimus Prime]

I believe 1969 was the last time the Greenland ice sheet met Iceland

[Skullzrulerz]

I wonder who done this?

[gottolovethisweather]

I wonder who done this?

 

I don't know but they can keep doing it.  the Muscovites have SNOW as predicted, furthermore it's now -6c there.

 

http://www.earthcam.com/world/russia/Moscow/

[Yarmy]

I don't know but they can keep doing it.  the Muscovites have SNOW as predicted, furthermore it's now -6c there.

 

http://www.earthcam.com/world/russia/Moscow/

 

Strange again that Southern Scandi is not covered there, but is here:

 

ftp://140.90.213.161/autosnow/4kmNH/multisensor_4km_nh_snow_ice_latlon_2013330.png

 

However, I see that Oxford also appears to be covered in a pixel of snow.

Edited November 27, 2013 by Yarmy

[Jimmy0127]

Hope I'm not teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but this link gives a pretty good idea of what's happening on our side of the Arctic:

 

http://www.met.no/English/Ocean_and_Ice/

[Gavin Hannah]

 

 

I'm not sure if the light blue on the image correlates to the dark blue on the key or the grey?

[gottolovethisweather]

Hope I'm not teaching Grandma to suck eggs, but this link gives a pretty good idea of what's happening on our side of the Arctic:

 

http://www.met.no/English/Ocean_and_Ice/

 

Nice link Jimmy, Thanks.

[gottolovethisweather]

 

 

I'm not sure if the light blue on the image correlates to the dark blue on the key or the grey?

 

I think they should have a light blue addition for 0.01/10 to 0.5/10 or something along those lines. Good stuff.

[Gavin Hannah]

Here's some cracking images.

 

http://www.arctic.io/sea-ice-charts/#webcams-satellites

 

[Gavin Hannah]

Latest IMS image showing snow getting into Turkey, Greece and a few other southern European areas.

 

 

And the ice pixels are tantalizing close to the Icelandic islands.

Edited November 27, 2013 by IBringTheHammer

[SMU]

Maybe if the northerly comes off as predicted the ice will be substantial enough to do the bridge

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2042.png

 

S

[osmposm]

 

 

I'm not sure if the light blue on the image correlates to the dark blue on the key or the grey?

 

 

I think they should have a light blue addition for 0.01/10 to 0.5/10 or something along those lines. Good stuff.

 

No, the ranges in the key are continuous, from 0/10 to 10/10. The blue may be a slightly different shade, but it's still the blue - i.e. 'open water - 0/10 to 1/10', the lowest category with any ice present at all.

 

It obviously couldn't be the grey, which is 'fast ice', and is seen in the fjords - you can't have a ring of 'fast ice' on the seaward side side of a variable density ice-pack, mate...'fast ice' is by definition fixed 'fast' to a landmass (or sometimes the bottom in shallow water)!

[Gavin Hannah]

Thanks for clearing that up. Looking at the NISDC maps(concentration map more so), there is a hint of some sea ice around the northern Icelandic isles. Just a small amount mind you, so conditions must be ideal for ice formation and perhaps more favorable than previous years for an ice bridge forming.

 

The maps can be found in the link I posted above.  

[Harve]

Latest IMS image showing snow getting into Turkey, Greece and a few other southern European areas.

 

 

And the ice pixels are tantalizing close to the Icelandic islands.

Barely any pixels in Greece or Turkey! It's mainly Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia.

Sorry for the geography lesson but I couldn't resist.

[cheese]

Kind of weird that these places in Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia are getting their first proper snow before places like Helsinki, Stockholm, Oslo and Tallinn. Been mild in southern Scandi and the Baltic states.

Edited November 28, 2013 by cheese

[gottolovethisweather]

No, the ranges in the key are continuous, from 0/10 to 10/10. The blue may be a slightly different shade, but it's still the blue - i.e. 'open water - 0/10 to 1/10', the lowest category with any ice present at all.

 

It obviously couldn't be the grey, which is 'fast ice', and is seen in the fjords - you can't have a ring of 'fast ice' on the seaward side side of a variable density ice-pack, mate...'fast ice' is by definition fixed 'fast' to a landmass (or sometimes the bottom in shallow water)!

 

Kind of like "fast women" and "fast cars" then.   Thanks, good to see though. I wonder what the initial NW'rly will bring into Scotland for example, given the state of the ice, ice baby.

Edited November 28, 2013 by gottolovethisweather