Snow and Ice in the Northern Hemisphere 2013/14

[throwoff]

I love it when nature does the ramping for us.

 

Must not get hopes up.

Must not get hopes up.

Must not get hopes up.

Must not get hopes up.

Must not get hopes up.

Must not get hopes up.

[Iceni]

This is an interesting link for all things sea icy and Arctic… for all the data nerds.

 

http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/

[Don]

Just for a giggle, here's my Xmas forecast. .... 

 

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A tad chilly in the Shetlands?

[Iceni]

A tad chilly in the Shetlands?

 

Oh the humanity! Kilt-wearing Shetlanders will be feeling the need for undergarments.

[Yarmy]

Just for a giggle, here's my Xmas forecast. .... 

 

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That is fantastic, but it would be even better with a small green blob right over the Triangle of Doom.

[Gavin Hannah]

Haven't had the ijis data in yet but the latest IMS images are pretty nice to look at.

 

Tue 8th Oct

 

Wed 9th Oct

[throwoff]

Wow

[LincolnSnowstorm]

Haven't had the ijis data in yet but the latest IMS images are pretty nice to look at.

 

Tue 8th Oct

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Wed 9th Oct

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Ice up 114k nice   Snow laying it on thick also.

[Skullzrulerz]

Haven't had the ijis data in yet but the latest IMS images are pretty nice to look at.

 

Tue 8th Oct

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Wed 9th Oct

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Wow Never seen so much snow this month for a long long time.

[Gavin Hannah]

The latest value: 6,414,201 km²â€‚(October 9, 2013)

 

 

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

 

 

Yet more massive gains!!! I think what I'm impressed with the most is the fact that, if you start off from a very low number (i.e 2012), big gains are easier to come by simply because you have more open ocean freezing at the same rate. When you have a higher starting point, (2013), the gains would (should) be less dramatic, simply by virtue of the fact that more of the ocean is already frozen compared with last year.

 

Yet, the red line (2013) is going off on one lol.... 

Edited October 10, 2013 by IBringTheHammer

[Mark Neal.]

Interesting article here on the PDF.. http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024006/pdf/1748-9326_8_2_024006.pdf

[throwoff]

It is a much more interesting picture than this time last year, I vividly remember people (myself included) trying to tie links between 2010 and 2012 but in reality forcing paterns that did not exist.

 

This year however the graphs clearly show we are ahead of 2010, of course the snow and ice is a small part of a very big picture but if things continue the potential for the land in Scandi getting very cold is high.

[Mark Neal.]

It is a much more interesting picture than this time last year, I vividly remember people (myself included) trying to tie links between 2010 and 2012 but in reality forcing paterns that did not exist.

 

This year however the graphs clearly show we are ahead of 2010, of course the snow and ice is a small part of a very big picture but if things continue the potential for the land in Scandi getting very cold is high.

 

if only seeing conditions looking better than when we were at this stage in 2010, would mean we would see a even better cold and snowy spell come this winter

 

Have to say, we continue to see gains on both ice and snow, amazing really can't remember a start like this since i have been watching the ongoing early advancement of snowcover across siberia and Eurasia! Top Stuff! 

[Skullzrulerz]

Darn it Brian Gaze New buzz could stop snow/ice in its tracks and maybe push it back

 http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/latest.aspx

[Mark Neal.]

Darn it Brian Gaze New buzz could stop snow/ice in its tracks and maybe push it back

 http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/latest.aspx

 

He was only saying a few days ago how the snow cover is likely to continue, i guess he will backtrack as well as what the weather models have been done over coming days!

[Skullzrulerz]

He was only saying a few days ago how the snow cover is likely to continue, i guess he will backtrack as well as what the weather models have been done over coming days!

Your might be right but i am not sure.

[Methuselah]

To be fair to Brian, he can only report on what the models are actually saying? He's not a clairvoyant... 

[Don]

Darn it Brian Gaze New buzz could stop snow/ice in its tracks and maybe push it back

 http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/latest.aspx

 

Unfortunately that is a potential fly in the ointment.  However, I would have thought it would have to take a hell of a lot of mild air to push the snow/ice back substantially.  Still not what we want to see though.

[Skullzrulerz]

Unfortunately that is a potential fly in the ointment.  However, I would have thought it would have to take a hell of a lot of mild air to push the snow/ice back substantially.  Still not what we want to see though.

The warm air IF it happens will/should stop the snow in its tracks so lets see,models can be wrong and change day to day.

[Isolated Frost]

Not very likely; look where the mild uppers reach; lots of changing in NWP as well, we're well above so I think it is a case of just waiting and calming down.

[Skullzrulerz]

Not very likely; look where the mild uppers reach; lots of changing in NWP as well, we're well above so I think it is a case of just waiting and calming down.

Just wait and see and what's NWP?

[Southern Storm]

Just wait and see and what's NWP?

It stands for Numerical Weather Prediction, basically computer generated.Also for some of you that are worried about the warm air moving into Europe, Warm air always has a problem pushing cooler more dense air out of the way, as happens with some of our own cold spells. Edited October 10, 2013 by Thunderman1981

[Gavin Hannah]

Wed 9th

 

Thur 10th

 

 

Snow probably level with some melt and some gains.  Ice continues to expand quite rapidly.

[Gavin Hannah]

Ooooooohhh So Close to that average line!!

 

The latest value: 6,521,075 km²â€‚(October 10, 2013)

[Skullzrulerz]

 

Ooooooohhh So Close to that average line!!

 

The latest value: 6,521,075 km²â€‚(October 10, 2013)

 

Very good news.