Snow and Ice in the Northern Hemisphere 2013/14

[Gavin Hannah]

 The latest value: 5,931,507 km²â€‚(October 5, 2013)

 

Three 100K+ gains in a row. Not far from the 6 Million mark now. Should pass that tomorrow.  

Edited October 6, 2013 by IBringTheHammer

[BornFromTheVoid]

 

 The latest value: 5,931,507 km²â€‚(October 5, 2013)

 

Three 100K+ gains in a row. Not far from the 6 Million mark now. Should pass that tomorrow.  

 

 

Just the two 100k+ gains IBTH! Still, a pretty rapid increase over the last 2 weeks or so.

Edited October 6, 2013 by BornFromTheVoid

[Interitus]

it will come further west over the next 10 days as a cold trough digs into central russia. it may well approach eastern scandi.  however, being so early in october, the chances of less cold air then causing a melt are considerable.

 

Yes, purely looking at the trends statistically, there appears to be no correlation between high Eurasian snow cover extent in September being followed by a large increase in area in October.

This might not matter but following on from a previous post looking at rank correlations, in the 41 years from 1972 to last year, the top ten September snow extents were followed by two of the top ten winter snow cover totals, and five below average.

When looking at October area increase this seems to be more significant, the top 10 are followed by five top 10 snowy winters and only 2 below average.

Using September ice extent performs even better with 3 below average winters but all the other 7 years are in the top 10 snowiest (and this is using a shorter ice series since 1979 with the snow data since 1972).

Combining the ranks of October increase with September ice extent does best of all - 8 out of ten were followed by top ten snowy winters, with two that were below average.

[LincolnSnowstorm]

Monday.... Turkey gets snow and the ice appears to melt! strange. 

Edited October 7, 2013 by LincolnSnowstorm

[simshady]

https://twitter.com/metdesk/status/387505898387562496/photo/1

 

Early season heavy snowfall set for the Alps.

[throwoff]

Seems to be definate signs of an early hit across the alps and scandi.

 

This is all shaping up to be a massively interesting winter.

[Gavin Hannah]

Monday.... Turkey gets snow and the ice appears to melt! strange. snow.gif

 

Don't worry, it's still on the increase.

 

The latest value: 6,162,905 km²â€‚(October 7, 2013)  

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm

[throwoff]

It is rocketing along

[Gavin Hannah]

As it's still early in the season, it will be interesting to watch the Ice and see if it stalls (slow growth or minor melt) at all this month. If we continue at the pace currently being set, we could be way above 7 Million sqKM by the end of October.

[keithlucky]

Early snow kills thousands of cattle in South Dakota http://t.co/mRtteeCqkv

[gottolovethisweather]

Hello all.

 

Not much to add from me, but it sure is good to be back, looking at this thread.

 

Conditions are ripe for a good October, it seems, with the cooler slowly progressing towards our shores.

 

 

Happy snow and ice searching.

 

gottolovethisweather

[gottolovethisweather]

For comparison, here's where we were in a month's time, last year.

 

 

Can we get there over the next 30 days?

 

 

 

[Gavin Hannah]

For comparison, here's where we were in a month's time, last year.

 

071112 Northern Hemisphere snow and ice cover.png

 

Can we get there over the next 30 days?

 

I reckon we will be well ahead that image in months time. 

[gottolovethisweather]

Here's one to wet your appetite, guys n gals. Pretty special synoptics for the time of year, if it came off. Alas, we would be on the wrong side of the deep cold but baby steps are needed, as on previous occasions. Thanks to the Jonan, the original poster of this in the MOD thread tonight.

 

Edited October 8, 2013 by gottolovethisweather

[Isolated Frost]

What a great EC for a taste of winter! No snow (at least within 10 days) or sleet, but quite cold and synoptically very similar to the evolution of other cold spells. Scandinavia and Eastern Europe (especially Russia) will see a lot of colder weather over the next few weeks w/ retrogression in full force and the Atlantic taking it's first battering.

[smithyweather]

Are we ever on the right of the cold lol. Lets be honest.

Whats irritating though is that we are often very very close to it.

[Isolated Frost]

Are we ever on the right of the cold lol. Lets be honest.Whats irritating though is that we are often very very close to it.

Numero uno, it's October.

Numero dos, yes we are, a lot of the time in fact, just that lots of people prefer negatives and remember them more also.

Numero tres, we are on the edge of the Atlantic; a pretty large piece of warm water, it's only due to atmospheric quirks that we get weather besides mild, cloudy westerlies...

[LincolnSnowstorm]

more Ice joins up with russia another box ticked! 

[Gaz1985]

Are we ever on the right of the cold lol. Lets be honest.Whats irritating though is that we are often very very close to it.

 

The Atlantic and NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) will always be an obstacle to the UK for those who want lasting bitter cold. I bet even during the end of the ice age Britain was one of the first to thaw out in Northern Europe due to the Atlantic. The only saving grace for cold/snow fans is the water surrounding us can create snow bands with convection when cold air is in place, and sometimes unexpectedly. As we've seen over the past few years.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Gaz1985

[Norway Nut]

See post #404 - My local weather service now giving out warnings of "From Wednesday afternoon locally severe conditions above 1000-1200 m due to decreasing temperature and transition to snow." Ok, it's all happening above 3000ft but it's a start and there's a lot of Norway above 3000ft

[toggerob]

There was a definite 'chill' in the air tonight, signature that the arctic pooling is on the way especially notable considering only Saturday I was at the local sat outside with just a fleece and t-shirt for warmth. It takes longer for cold air to warm again so its pretty much safe to say that unless the UK gets another ex-hurricane Irene scenario by the end of the month that our mild conditions will have to wait another 6 months again.

 

A good excuse to dust off the albums, and rock back watching the NW precip radar in the coming weeks.

[cheese]

Winter to arrive with a vengeance in northern Scandinavia!

 

[Turnedoutniceagain]

http://home.custompublish.com/snsk/lyb_big.jpg

 

Svalbard's had a nice dusting

[smithyweather]

Tbh Svalbard is at 80north so they should've gotten snow weeks ago.

[Mark Neal.]

I think watching webcams to the NE in the next week could be interesting!