Far North of England Regional Discussion - January 19th 2013>

[Alex95]

Over the last few hours the snow has gone from small grainy stuff to small flakes, it looks like its getting better, not worse.

The thicknesses are getting higher and the 850mb temps are getting lower. The 850s are decreasing more rapidly so this might just be temporary - once these level off the thicknesses will continue to rise.

It's going to remain marginal - nor guaranteed sleet by any means, but always the chance of it.

[Isolated Frost]

The 850-1000dm lines are staying between 1280 and 1285 all day. Light sleety wet snow flakes and heavy snow grains. Still 12cm here.

[Alex95]

The 850-1000dm lines are staying between 1280 and 1285 all day. Light sleety wet snow flakes and heavy snow grains. Still 12cm here.

It's the magic 528 DAM line which is retreating, that's what you need to be watching as everything else looks favourable at the moment.

[NickR]

It's the magic 528 DAM line which is retreating, that's what you need to be watching as everything else looks favourable at the moment.

Have you got a link?

[Alex95]

Have you got a link?

Getting marginal today with thicknesses JUST below 528 DAM, although its hard to tell from this chart:

http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130119/06/12/hgt500-1000.png

Tomorrow evening:

http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130119/06/36/hgt500-1000.png

Ideally you want sub 522 DAM.

[DPS74]

Some decent snow fall again here, thankfully!

[Summer Sun]

Not bad

Could be marginal for those close to the coast those inland and on a decent elevation are likely to get snow

Air temp remains at +1.3°C

Dew point remains at -1.8°C

[Isolated Frost]

Surely the 850-1000 thicknesses are more important to explain the very cold 850s (-9c) and sleet and snow at the surface at 1c.

The 500hpa thicknesses do provide a good measure of cold upper air though. NCL TAF going for snow shrs tonight.

[Alex95]

Careful using the ppn type charts - they show snow, but the snow risk charts show the snow height as 300m or so. The GFS is the worst for Monday, most of the other models would give snow.

[peterf]

not even going attempt to get the car out today.

anyone know what it's like around SJP ?

[Isolated Frost]

not even going attempt to get the car out today.

anyone know what it's like around SJP ?

Awful, dreary.

Oh.... the weather???

Edited January 19, 2013 by Isolated Frost

[peterf]

Awful, dreary.

Oh.... the weather???

very good lol.

[Snowstorm1]

1.6c / 0c here the thaw has started uh oh

[jennyifer]

Good morning.well good covering of snow,sledge is out snow man well on its way one little girl very happy .

Still snowing not much but snow all the same .no more moaning today from me.well as long as it does not rain and wash is away lol

[gazzac69]

heavy snow/hail and quite strong winds here now, which has blown most of the snow from the trees,

[Alex95]

Horrid 6z GFS - heavy rain on Monday, then 5C by Tuesday!

[Andy_]

My cover still intact this morning, large chunk of snow slipped off my car bonnet suggesting temperatures above freezing, which they are.

Radar doesn't look as exciting today but have seen some snow and heard a lot of hail

[tynevalleysnow]

But the gfs has been as way off the mark lately

[Isolated Frost]

EC, UKMO and GEM disagree alza, and they have always beaten the GFS this month.

[Alex95]

I think the GFS is certainly overdoing it, but its very unusual to have such differences at +48, we really can't tell what'll happen! Make the most of it this weekend just in case.

Here's the depth of my snow:

[DPS74]

After looking extremely healthy last night, the snowman has just lost his nose! Kind of sums it up really!

[Andy_]

At this point I have had double the amount of days of snow falling than the 2011/2012 Winter Shows had bad last year was haha

[NickR]

Might have to sledge today rather than tomorrow... temperature higher than it's been for about 5 days now: 1.2°C, DP 0.4°C. Is there supposed to be any improvement later today? Or will it just get warmer?

[Snowmaggedon]

What is the radar showing for this afternoon and evening? Just as the wind direction becomes favourable, the precipitation decides to dry up. Typical.

[NickR]

What is the radar showing for this afternoon and evening? Just as the wind direction becomes favourable, the precipitation decides to dry up. Typical.

Might be just as well - the DPs and temperatures don't like good.