East Anglia & Three Counties Regional Discussion

[saint]

Totally agree there!! I think we should get a good show either that or I shall be blinded from looking at lamp posts too long!! it has been very negative in here recently much better this way

Yes, this thread is much more happy! Btw, you have a Message

[Snowangel-MK]

I don't really know where I belong haha

In here for sure

[Ice Day]

Having spent much of the evening in the London/SE thread, this one's much more enjoyable and no sign of trolls!!! As I'm on the border, I think I'll spend most of my time in here (shame we'll lose Yamkin and John Pike though!). Anyway, I think our region is going to have a memorable week.....or maybe more. Models look to be finding more and more creative ways of extending the cold. Exciting times ahead!

[Lammie]

Ah I've found my new home all shiny and warm. Looking forward to less frantic and contradictory discussions than on some of the some of the other threads.

Anyone mind if I pull up a pew and make my self comfortable?

Looking reasonable good so far for our neck of the wood MKSnowAngel, although not looking forward to the carnage of the gridlocked rounds around MK as happens after a few flakes start to settle on the ground.

Still at least I can walk to work if the roads are too bad!

Edited January 13, 2013 by Lammie

[Paul Sherman]

Shame! You normally lurk in both if I remember rightly...though if one or two of the trolls don't quieten down I might move in here too!

Hi Lottie, Yeah have too lurk in both as Forum Team to keep an eye on the Fisherman!! Until their bait runs out that is.

Still all to play for and this will unfortunately be a T6 To T12 Event I have a feeling! But hopefully by Tuesday we have all had a decent amount of snow, Models also looking like keeping the cold going longer now as well, notice how the people looking for a reaction have failed to mention that tonight ??

[Snowangel-MK]

Anyone mind if I pull up a pew and make my self comfortable?

Looking reasonable good so far for our neck of the wood MKSnowAngel, although not looking forward to the carnage of the gridloacked rounds around MK as happens after a few flakes start to settle on the ground.

Hello Lammie *waves* please make yourself at home in here

Hopefully MK council have got their act together and plenty of grit and we don't get a repeat of the shocking road conditions we had here in Dec 2010..

[Mr.Plow]

There has been some attempt at wintry precip here on the east coast this evening.

A little taster of whats to come I hope!

Apart from the potential fronts on Monday I am really looking forward to some hopefully beefy snow showers if the winds turn the right way.

Edited January 13, 2013 by HomerJ

[etched Chaos]

I'm not sure if I should start lamppost watching yet. Dewpoint is -0.5 but temp is a balmy 3.5c .

[Chris101]

In my experience, some of the best snow events are the ones that get spotted 6 hours or less prior to it or even the ones that don't get spotted at all, if this spell keeps going as long as a week then i'm sure we'll see some troughs appearing from nothing somewhere across the UK.

Currently 1.9c Dewpoint -4.0c here.

[Icebox]

Actually think I might come over here as well, way too many trolls in the other old Thread and Essex is East Anglia after all!

Very sad that you feel that way Paul as many of us value your input...... unfortunately we seem to have been invaded by a few total %(?&$ of late and it has changed the happy positive vibe that we had in the thread, well most of the time anyway before it was split.

[angel23]

Yes, this thread is much more happy! Btw, you have a Message

I got your message

[john pike]

hi all

goodluck with your snow prospects

heres some nae charts that i expect have been posted but gonna do it again anyway

i will continue to do my fax updates to cover the whole south east

so feel free to pop in for a coffee and chat

[mishy]

^ Thanks John

[Iceni]

See you all in the morning! Will try to do a morning model update if I'm up early enough (might be a struggle considering it's a Sunday tomorrow lol). As has been mentioned, snow showers possible tomorrow across Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex.

Just checked the upper air temperatures —8ºC and dewpoint —1ºC. Perfect for snow. All we need now is umm… the snow.

[scotteboi]

Thats good to hear! Right better get some shut eye...going to be a busy day tomorrow (I hope)

Nite all

[john pike]

http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/75521-southwest-central-southern-england-regional-discussion-12th-january-2013/page__st__560#entry2487189

check in fergusions posts

[Ben_Cambs]

Morning all. Somehow I'm up this early (on a Sunday!) so an update on the models for tomorrow.

NAE:

First band of snow arriving around 6am:

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/prty/13011406_1300.gif

Weakening as it travels east. NAE predicting only about 1-3mm of precipitation from this first band.

Second band of precipitation arriving during the early afternoon:

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/prty/13011412_1300.gif

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/prty/13011418_1300.gif

Second band delivers about 3-6mm of precipitation.

A look at the dew points from midday onwards. Need the DP to be 0C or below:

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/taup/13011412_1300.gif

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/taup/13011415_1300.gif

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/taup/13011418_1300.gif

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/01/13/basis00/ukuk/taup/13011421_1300.gif

Looks OK for most of the region. Perhaps the risk of marginality towards the SW of the areas covered in this thread however this can and will change.

GFS appears to be a bit more marginal particularly late afternoon.

First band is fine as all snow:

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013011300/30-574.GIF?13-0

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013011300/33-574.GIF?13-0

However more marginal in the afternoon as the second band arrives, again more towards the SW of the region but the marginality on the GFS affects more of the region too on the 0z.

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013011300/36-574.GIF?13-0

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013011300/39-574.GIF?13-0

Partly down to this milder wedge of air mid-afternoon, travelling south-east.

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013011300/36-7.GIF?13-0

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013011300/39-7.GIF?13-0

As for the UKMO and ECM models regarding Monday and the 850hPa temperature, UKMO would look fine to me and ECM it's difficult to say because of the 24 hour period between charts, but has -6 850hPa over the whole region between 1am Monday morning and 1am Tuesday morning, admittidly not too sure where the mild sector is on this run, but looks OK to me.

Met office forecast for east of England for tonight and Monday:

Tonight:

Staying very cold. Gradually clouding over with snow spreading from the northwest to all parts. This will lead to some accumulations, especially later, also some very icy conditions. Minimum temperature -3 °C.

Monday:

Cloudy and very cold, the early snow clearing for a time, but then further snow arriving during the afternoon. Some accumulations and remaining icy in places. Maximum temperature 1 °C.

Updated: 0319 on Sun 13 Jan 2013

FAX's will be interesting this morning to see where they place the mild sector (last night's didn't have it near this region).

Also for further interest, 3-5 day outlook for the east of England:

Outlook for Tuesday to Thursday:

Tuesday, very cold, bright or sunny intervals and snow showers, some possibly heavy near coasts. Wednesday and Thursday, very cold with a biting northeasterly wind and heavy snow showers.

Updated: 0319 on Sun 13 Jan 2013

All to play for.

A more general model update shows the cold spell lasting untl the end of the weekend at the earliest, so more snow potential and cold- v.cold conditions over the next week I would of thought.

[Floatylight]

Morning all,hope you all got your battries charged in readiness for the fun and games.

I have just out of interest looked at the radar and compared it to the gfs precip chart for the same time and it is more or less identical apart from the snow is further inland than progged going into derby and leicester.

[tinybill]

morning alli see the met weather app saying now 4 days snow for us plus i see the gfs is going for deep cold now till late Jan, and by Thursday we could be digging ourselves out and walking to work!!

[Dan the Man]

Blimey, suddenly my area has become slightly marginal. How things change - this time yesterday morning, everything seemed nailed on and for me, we were in the sweet spot. Chances of a disruptive snow event probably down to about 75% from close to 100%.

The only saving grace is the higher ground around here; anything marginal will probably fall as snow.

However, this is a rollercoaster ride. One small change in the setup will throw everything in or out of kilter.

Edited January 13, 2013 by Dan the Man

[Methuselah]

A few flakes here, but nothing to get too excited about yet, 2.5C...

[Summer of 76]

Morning everyone in the new thread and posting from one of three counties.

Well it's well below zero out there, will we get snow here I really don't know i think it will be a case of watching the radar and seeing where the precipitation goes, a few miles east or right can make a lot of difference. i suppose one thing can be said 'At least it won't be Mild' for the next few days

A few flakes here, but nothing to get too excited about yet, 2.5C...

Yes i have some here

Cornflakes

[bluearmy]

One suspects events beyond monday/tuesday will be more reliable for our region with a stiff frigid noreaster and some troughs. If we get lucky tomorrow, all the better as fresh snow topping up stale snow is such a joy.

[tinybill]

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

look what coming our way later cant wait!!

[Snowy Easterlies]

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

look what coming our way later cant wait!!

you mean that front form the northwest ?