Scotland Regional Discussion - January 12th 2013>

[Snowangel-MK]

Welcome, here is a new thread to discuss your regional weather and local observations in bonnie Scotland…

The forum is extremely busy at the moment so you might have noticed one or two features including the member’s locations have been temporarily switched off to save resources on the servers, all you regular contributors in this region probably know where each other are located but it might help any newbys or visitors if you could add your location to your signature, it’s nice to know where everyone is especially when you are reporting snaw (for anyone not sure how to do this go to Edit Profile, Signature, Edit and Save).

Also this a very good time to think about getting the NW radar if you haven’t already got it, a one month subscription is just £3.49

https://www.netweath...session_timeout

Please try to keep the thread topical - Thank you

link to the previous one here ...

http://forum.netweat...3/page__st__840

Edited January 13, 2013 by lorenzo

[Cheggers]

Link to my last post with updated tool.

[Hairy Celt]

yeah fckn thanks just trashed my last post. Nowt wrong with a spot of fundraising in the midddle of the night tho is there? Jeez I'm off tae soil the aaah why bother

[LomondSnowstorm]

Latest FAX chart for the early hours of Monday - looks promising, current NAE gives us pretty much an all snow event if the above chart is to be believed, although I believe there's a possibility of moderation to sleet at points on Sunday evening before the front occludes. Monday looks more emphatic if it comes off as currently modelled though, cold air properly entrenched by that stage and two occlusions draped across the country:

Timings will change, however all charts point to snow. The lack of wind over these few days is going to be critical as well, because it is this which scuppers marginal snowfall, and with nothing coming from the North Sea either until when colder air moves in on Tuesday from the east any marginality is more likely to be overcome.

Anyway, currently dewpoints on the east coast range from around 0C to 3C, so not too bad given the uppers, and with the relatively slack flow this could work out in our favour tomorrow. I do feel that a slightly better westwards push of the cold uppers than currently modelled tomorrow would make things a lot easier on Sunday as well as tomorrow, and if we get that we won't have any issues with marginality, but at present I'm remaining vigilant to the possibility of low ground sleet on Sunday evening.

[andy100]

Welcome, here is a new thread to discuss your regional weather and local observations in bonnie Scotland…

The forum is extremely busy at the moment so you might have noticed one or two features including the member’s locations have been temporarily switched off to save resources on the servers, all you regular contributors in this region probably know where each other are located but it might help any newbys or visitors if you could add your location to your signature, it’s nice to know where everyone is especially when you are reporting snaw (for anyone not sure how to do this go to Edit Profile, Signature, Edit and Save).

Also this a very good time to think about getting the NW radar if you haven’t already got it, a one month subscription is just £3.49

https://www.netweath...session_timeout

Please try to keep the thread topical - Thank you

link to the previous one here ...

http://forum.netweat...3/page__st__840

Thank you babey.

[andy100]

[Polar Gael]

That's Friday night topical all right.

Oh yeah, weather stuff...

Snow.

Incommmiiiiiiiiiiinnnggg!!!

[Polar Gael]

Does anyone think that if when the legendary SSW kicks in, we could do better than the all time minimum re temps?

http://www.metoffice...inimum_scotland

3rd time lucky?

*Safety Notice* - This is not in any way, shape or form, a ramp.

[LomondSnowstorm]

Does anyone think that if when the legendary SSW kicks in, we could do better than the all time minimum re temps?

http://www.metoffice...inimum_scotland

3rd time lucky?

*Safety Notice* - This is not in any way, shape or form, a ramp.

Depends on a lot of factors - firstly we need to get a good snow cover this weekend, then we need to get the lows to undercut and stay on the north side of the jet through the potentially less cold spell (if we do this it may in fact intensify the cold and snow) and then finally we need the last piece of the puzzle, the reload from the northeast, to really lock in the cold air for when the slackening of the flow occurs.

There are some amazing records there, like the -23.3C in mid November and the -13.3C in mid April. There's also something very statistically satisfying about the minimum temperature tie between all three winter months at exactly -27.2C.

[NorthernRab]

Temp has gone up from -6'C to -4'C with fog, cold night out!

[LomondSnowstorm]

Impressively low temperature here now, 0.7/-.6C, given NAE pegs us at 2-3C with DP at 2C. Could easily be snow here Orde thing tomorrow at this rate.

[Highland Snow]

Temperature +1.4C/+1.0C (-0.2C/hour) so DP needs to get right down for these incoming showers to fall as snow.

[Highland Snow]

Impressively low temperature here now, 0.7/-.6C, given NAE pegs us at 2-3C with DP at 2C. Could easily be snow here Orde thing tomorrow at this rate.

I notice the showers are moving SE to NW and hitting land just North of Montrose. Need a wind direction change LSS.

[Guest]

Depends on a lot of factors - firstly we need to get a good snow cover this weekend, then we need to get the lows to undercut and stay on the north side of the jet through the potentially less cold spell (if we do this it may in fact intensify the cold and snow) and then finally we need the last piece of the puzzle, the reload from the northeast, to really lock in the cold air for when the slackening of the flow occurs.

There are some amazing records there, like the -23.3C in mid November and the -13.3C in mid April. There's also something very statistically satisfying about the minimum temperature tie between all three winter months at exactly -27.2C.

That record is nothing to do with stats and everything to do with the thermometer only going down to -27.2ºC. I didn't just make that up, honest guv!

[JoeShmoe]

Check out the latest NAE T+42 chart for sun, no marginality there at all !

[Audrey]

Currently raining here with wet snow amongst it.

[edo]

Check out the latest NAE T+42 chart for sun, no marginality there at all !

U mean this bad boy 6pm tomorrow

[Highland Snow]

Temp up to +2.1C/+1.7C (+0.2C/hour). Not Good!

[lorenzo]

Apologies HC, with the forum on reduced features we cannot see who is viewing a thread or who is posting. Normally if someone is creating a post the username is in italics at the bottom of the thread.

[Scottish-Irish Skier]

That's mair like it.

T = 1.2 C / DP = 0.2 C

Edited January 12, 2013 by scottish skier

[mistyqueen]

Morning folks! Temp down to 1.1 last night,now up to 2.3, no snow though, and i don't t think we'll see much up here anyhoo. We're just a wee bit too far west judging by what I've seen posted here. Shame, Skye looks so lovely when it's had a dump o' the white stuff.

[edo]

Temp up to +2.1C/+1.7C (+0.2C/hour). Not Good!

Think will be nearer midday till the cold takes effect here HS hopefully see the dew point drop right down in a few hours....if not going to feel bitter in rainy showers and be an icy mess late tonight

[Scottish-Irish Skier]

For sunday lunch:

Edited January 12, 2013 by scottish skier

[Snooz]

Morning All, sig updated ready for the fun an' games,, thanks for tip MK.

Impressively low temperature here now, 0.7/-.6C, given NAE pegs us at 2-3C with DP at 2C. Could easily be snow here Orde thing tomorrow at this rate.

2.3C/1.7C here at present which is the low for the day so far, was freezing around 9pm last night but was 4C with rain when I took dog out at 12am...

That's mair like it.

T = 1.2 C / DP = 0.2 C

see BMW's been busy wi' the washing..

Not expecting too much today TBH too far E and N within the shire, but good to see Audrey posting the Banchory/Fettercairn updates.. quite a few Shire residents ready for lampost duty this weekend too, Lorenzo is also a man on the spot, hope you get stuck up here (in a nice way of course!!) - keep the updates a comin'

[Allyw12]

From what I can make the GFS 00z was a good run but the ECM has decided to go it alone Such a shame as we had model agreement, hope rejoins the GFS/UKMT soon.

It was also a few people talked a out Sunday/Monday snow is downgraded but is that down south, sorry to ask all these questions is diffcult to weed out the rubbish in the MT

Edited January 12, 2013 by Allyw12