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Hello technically minded folk, just had to sort out that update problem with Mcafee anti-virus. If you haven't heard, a recent update from them meant that I couldn't connect to the internet, only solution was to uninstall it.

Now they're advise is to reinstall, I'm a bit peeved that I wasted two hours of my morning faffing around trying to sort their problem, with no help from them. It came as a free subscription with my computer so I'm not losing any money plus I've heard that there not the best. So anyone advise some free anti-virus software asap as I'm all unprotected and vulnerable at the moment!

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Hello technically minded folk, just had to sort out that update problem with Mcafee anti-virus. If you haven't heard, a recent update from them meant that I couldn't connect to the internet, only solution was to uninstall it.

Now they're advise is to reinstall, I'm a bit peeved that I wasted two hours of my morning faffing around trying to sort their problem, with no help from them. It came as a free subscription with my computer so I'm not losing any money plus I've heard that there not the best. So anyone advise some free anti-virus software asap as I'm all unprotected and vulnerable at the moment!

Ta!

Yes years ago i got rid of Norton and Mcafee in turn-why pay when there`s so much good free stuff out there?

I have used Avast free for about 4 years now and never a problem.

http://www.avast.com/en-gb/free-antivirus-download

Just select the free version on the link and away you go.

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Thanks for the help, I went for Microsofts anti-virus, had it on my last computer and sounds like it's still up there with the best.

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I used Microsoft Security Essentials for a while, and had a nasty virus get by it and disable MSE altogether, while continually redirecting internet searches to Ebay. I tried various programs such as Spybot and Malwarebytes which helped contain the virus but didn't get rid of it altogether, then fortunately found that I had a spare license left on a 3-computer version of Kaspersky Internet Security, which managed to get rid of it (so far).

For this reason I am wary of recommending Microsoft Security Essentials, although I might just have been unlucky. There are other good free alternatives such as AVG and Avast that are worth a look too.

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In my opinion AVG is not one I would choose. Earlier versions were very good and not resource hungry like the more recent versions are. Avast and Avira are free and very good (I prefer Avast). I have both Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes installed on my computer and have had very little trouble since they have been protecting my system for well over a year. I would never use McAfee as it is over-priced and useless in comparison to free antivirus software.

If you are using Windows 7 on your computer then the securitty side of the OS is alot better than Vista and a great improvement on Windows XP anyway.

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I'm of the opinion that when you consider the amount you spend on a pc and the amount of material you keep on it then relying on a free product to look after it is maybe not the way forward. I'd personally recommend ESET

http://www.eset.co.uk/

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The problem with some of them is the use a fair bit of resource in the background.

I can't actually remember the last time my anti-virus found or stopped a threat.

I suppose it depends on how the machine is used but the threat to windows7,

effectively invisible behind a router hardware firewall is minimal anyway if you are careful online.

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I'm of the opinion that when you consider the amount you spend on a pc and the amount of material you keep on it then relying on a free product to look after it is maybe not the way forward. I'd personally recommend ESET

http://www.eset.co.uk/

It depends on the user Paul.

Running a business and all the information one would store on a computer system then i would agree that the investment involved on a paid for AV prog. would seem wise.

Personally i only use mine for leisure and social activites and back up all my documents on an external HD every so often just for peace of mind.

I do find the free version of Avast quite sufficient -it has stopped the odd atttack and nothing has got through in 4 years-it is also non intrusive running quietly and efficiently in the background.

I also have Malware Bytes as a tool for an occasional extra sweep to make sure nothing s lurking and also CC Cleaner for general clearing out of unused registry keys and old files incl temp.files.

Defraggler also for keeping things running efficiently.

None of these cost a penny and all used correctly can keep most home systems in good order.

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I've seen plenty of free anti virus and also paid for anti virus not doing a lot for the end user. I use Eset nod32 but I'm a careful user and don't click on links willy nilly but I haven't seen a lot wrong with microsoft security essentials. Other free programs from experiance from seeing loads of student pc's are basically a chocalate firewall.

My advise if you have dodgy browsing habits build a linux box and scan the file from there. Basically free films and free porn aren't free you'll download something you didn't expect or in rare cases get a letter saying Oi copyright infringement instead.

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Interesting thoughts & comments. I have run both Norton 360 & McCoffee and both absolutely kill a machine from a speed perspective,using copious amount of system resource. It does appear time is ripe to view other options, reading this thread

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We use Eset/Nod32 or Sophos for our clients at work. For those who prefer a free option we load up Microsoft Security Essentials. AVG/Norton are usually too resource intensive for the lower/mid range spec pc's.

OpenDNS (www.opendns.com) is also a good option to use on routers or on individual PC's. Free for home use as well. Can help filter out some of the nastier sites etc.

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Firstly paid antivirus are not better than free ones, for example AVG Avira and Avast have both versions and have exactly the same database. you just get extra features in the paid versions which personally I dont want or need.

I use Avira mainly because in independant tests it has come above the others most of the time for detection rates.

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ok dumb question..what the difference between internet security software and anti virus software?

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My bro, who's been writing software for years - says that C-Clean is as good as any and, that spending a fortune on well-known brands is a waste of money...Having been online myself, for more than ten years, and never having had any probs with C2K and all the rest, I tend to agree...And, getting shot of the stuff that comes pre-installed in most modern PCs and laptops can save a lot of disc-space?

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Have used all types of antivirus since windows 3.1 way, way back when we first started in business.

Have to say have never encountered a virus that contaminated the data files such as word,excel, pcb files etc but have encountered many, many viruses that slow the pc to a standstill and replicate themselves.

I would echo the comments above re not recommending Norton.

Have had a few virus’s where I have exhausted all possibilities and had to install windows again on a new hard drive and then reinstall programmes and copy data files from original hard drive. (an all day job) Have an old collection of in excess of 20 hard drives smile.png

Might sound a bit excessive but have encountered drives that start to mechanically fail after about 4 years of on all day Mon to Friday.

At present use all sorts, Malware Bytes, Microsoft security essentials, Spybot, Avast.

Did use AVG up until version 9 then it became very top heavy so went over to Avast.

Avast has a useful boot scanner that you can set so on next boot up so it will scan the whole hard drive prior to the operating system engaging fully with windows but make sure you set heuristics to high sensitivity to catch some of the more sneaky stuff and be prepared for a long scan, best to leave it running all night.

If doing online transactions and other password stuff download a free copy of rapport which protects you from password copying which “they†will use to clean your bank account out with. You might have to download it via your bank such as HSBC as it can be tailored to suit individual banks.

I have found that some viruses have an impartial liking for rapport as you can see when viewing the log files but “touch wood†they can’t seem to hack it.

However some are very good at totally corrupting spybot files and instructing it to switch off some scanning functions as will be found on a huge list so you have to literally scroll down thousands of files and see if a ticked box whizzes by which means do not check for this particular Trojan type. Once the buggers have a back door key they tend to let all their mates in willy nilly and will attack the avast files rendering the programme useless even if you delete and reinstall !spiteful.gif

I have found that even though say Avast as an example is checking for dodgy goings on in a live situation they still get in and get found by doing a subsequent scan.

The best places to pick up a really good virus is porn and bit torrent files. dirol.gif

Once they corrupt your win config files it’s almost a lost cause as I have found over the years unless you have a lot of spare time on your hands. In many cases as TWS pointed out you can hold them at bay rather than eradicate them but they tend to get you in the end.

The last one I got, stopped me from firing up windows and corrupting the driver files for the CD disc drive, now that WAS a goody.

As an example I recently got rid of “virtually†all the problems and everything seemed fine then one morning did a pre system scan and the whole pc had pages and pages of all sorts of nasties.

Have found that if you go hunting for the dodgy files some viruses get REALLY angry and go into some hidden overdrive mode as a “that will teach you to get rid of me†type of thing.

If you get a problem with windows a good first port of call is a hard switchoff (no it will not destroy your pc) . You might have to do this a couple of times sometimes then a message pops up on reboot saying your files and folders needs checking for consistency,

If you have a virus that corrupts then at least the system will try to copy or convert lost chains to files etc and you can see which files are being got at.

Make sure if you are using say Microsoft internet explorer that you also have chrome and Firefox as alternatives then if explorer gets hit which is the favourite you can still get onto the web via the others to get those all important free online antivirus answers.

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ok dumb question..what the difference between internet security software and anti virus software?

internet security software normally contain extras along with the antivirus, these normally include a firewall, email scanners etc.

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I assemble my own systems and the one I'm currently using was originally put together in 2009 with a 500GB WD drive linked to an ASUS P6T dl mobo & intel i7 2.6ghz processor.

It's since evolved to run on a 120GB OCZ VertexII sandforce controlled flash-drive with another 3TB of storage across 2xWD drives (giving a total of 4) with 9GB of tri-channel memory.

I kept the original OS housed on a partition on the 500 WD and found that on the two occasions that I've had an infection that I couldn't remove by normal means I was able to change the boot priority in the BIOS and run the original OS as the "c" drive with the OCZ assigned a different drive-letter. This meant that the "new" c-drive was uninfected and the virus could easily be manually removed from the OCZ (normal "c") becasue most virusses seem to be written to infect the c drive only. Once this operation was completed it was just a matter of reentering the BIOS and changing the drive order back to the normal pattern.

I'll just add that the virusses that caused the problems managed to circumnavigate the Avira software that i was running but I've since changed to Avast and have had no problems to date.

So the message is to keep a clean OS on a separate partition and use alternative boot if you have a serious nasty.

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I use Avast and scan regular.Along with windows defender..McAfee Security Scan,also free...all With firewall in router..Use Glary utilities daily...That was recommended by Web User Which comes out every 2 weeks...I subscribe to mine....

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Hopefully someone can advise me on a problem Ive recently encountered.

I have Windows Vista, Miscrosoft Security Essentials and AVG installed. A couple of weeks ago I logged off and closed my computer down using the correct procedures I have used for the last xx years. The next morning when I turned it back on my background screen was black ( no photo which was there the previous night ), and about 2/3rds of my icons had dissappeared.

Ever since then I have not been able to log onto Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox or Thunderbird, though the icons are still on screen. I can however access the internet via Safari, which whilst far from ideal, does allow me some access. Microsoft Security Essentials still appears to be running in the background, as it keeps telling me computer is fully protected.

Any thoughts or ideas please, bearing in mind Im a complete Techno numpty !!

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You could try starting-up in safe mode, and doing a System Restore. You'd lose anything installed since that date, but it might be worth a try?

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Well your first problem is two security programs installed. Two avg programs tend not to work well together and cause problems. If you've got access to programs and features remove one of them I would say AVG and then reboot.

Hopefully things should return to normal after that. If you can't remove AVG they do have a uninstaller which you will need to download and run.

Come back if things are still broken.

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