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  • Location: Peterborough N.Cambridgeshire
  • Location: Peterborough N.Cambridgeshire

But we're just having a 'normal' summer, Dave...Normal, in the sense that we've all seen it many times before. Just because we've not seen a 'scorcher' since 2006 doesn't equate to a 'sudden change in the climate' in my opinion...

PS: Since when has the North Atlantic Drift 'shut down'?

Normal summer if you compare to say the 1950s,60s etc. If you compare to the summers of the past 20yrs then I would say no this isn't a typical summer. What has been particularly unusual in recent summers is how often the NAO has been negative.

My personal view is the hot summers, mild winters we experienced since 1987 was due to a prolonged positive phase of the NAO/AO. What we are now seeing is the NAO/AO often being negative and this in my opinion is due to the solar minimum.

Im not suggesting we are heading for an ice age. What I am saying is our climate is reverting back to what we experienced prior to the 1990s. This is why I fully expect a sequence of cold winters similiar to what occured in the 1960s. :cold:

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

But what caused the run of colder winters and cooler summers that occurred in the years, 1978, '79, 1980, 81, '82, 85, '87 and '88?

You may well be right about the NAO, Dave; but, isn't that phenomenon itself simply a part of 'natural variation? IMO, the above cannot be attributed to either NAD shutdown or a Solar Minimum. My point is: whatever is happening now has happened before. And, we may be jumping to conclusions when looking to 'offworld' drivers? :D

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

RAIN TODAY COULD LAST FOR 40 DAYS

BRITAIN could be heading for a washout summer if ancient folklore is to be believed. Legend says that showers today, St Swithin’s Day, mean 40 days of rain to come. And with downpours predicted for parts of the UK this afternoon, experts expect wet times ahead. Forecaster Brian Gaze of The Weather Outlook said: “There will be showers or longer outbreaks of rain and there may well be some substance to the legend this year. “Although I don’t expect 40 days of non-stop rain, it’s downhill from Friday onwards.†Low pressure will push wet and windy weather across Britain from the Atlantic, with temperatures well below the mid-July average, while cold air from the Arctic could bring a dusting of snow to the Scottish highlands. The showery weather may continue into August, although summer will return, a welcome relief for central England which had its coldest June since 1991.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/258914/Rain-today-could-last-for-40-days

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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks

RAIN TODAY COULD LAST FOR 40 DAYS

BRITAIN could be heading for a washout summer if ancient folklore is to be believed. Legend says that showers today, St Swithin’s Day, mean 40 days of rain to come. And with downpours predicted for parts of the UK this afternoon, experts expect wet times ahead. Forecaster Brian Gaze of The Weather Outlook said: “There will be showers or longer outbreaks of rain and there may well be some substance to the legend this year. “Although I don’t expect 40 days of non-stop rain, it’s downhill from Friday onwards.†Low pressure will push wet and windy weather across Britain from the Atlantic, with temperatures well below the mid-July average, while cold air from the Arctic could bring a dusting of snow to the Scottish highlands. The showery weather may continue into August, although summer will return, a welcome relief for central England which had its coldest June since 1991.

http://www.express.c...ast-for-40-days

not a very reliable weather check if you look at the times it rained and then did not for 40 etc and the reverse also!

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  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, squally fronts, snow, frost, very mild if no snow or frost
  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)

But what caused the run of colder winters and cooler summers that occurred in the years, 1978, '79, 1980, 81, '82, 85, '87 and '88?

You may well be right about the NAO, Dave; but, isn't that phenomenon itself simply a part of 'natural variation? IMO, the above cannot be attributed to either NAD shutdown or a Solar Minimum. My point is: whatever is happening now has happened before. And, we may be jumping to conclusions when looking to 'offworld' drivers? :D

it is happening again as has before, but this period of it(major climate change, for however long) is for a different reason. during Jurassic period the plant eating dinosaurs had plenty of plants and trees to munch on, if they came back now they would not have as much, it was also tropical where we now have temperate climate, and one day it could just be like that again.. Edited by ElectricSnowStorm
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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

not a very reliable weather check if you look at the times it rained and then did not for 40 etc and the reverse also!

Put it this way, John: St. Swithin's was sunny and warm around here...

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

If anyone's going on a UK holiday in the next 30 day's, then take you brolly and waterproofs,

ST SWITHIN WAS RIGHT AS RAIN IS SET TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE WEEK

AFTER months of drought, Britain is set to receive all its rain at once this week as forecasters warn the summer washout looks set to stay. Some parts of the UK received well over half their average July rainfall in just 24 hours over the wet weekend. And the downpours are set to remain as rain is forecast to continue on Tuesday and Wednesday with torrential storms set for Thursday. Over the weekend, torrential downpous saw Spadeadam in Cumbria suffer 50.4mm of rain in the 24 hours on Saturday while Strathallan in Scotland was the second wettest place in the UK, receiving 41.8mm of rain in the same period. A stubborn area of low pressure has led to forecasts of more rainfall, cloudy weather and unseasonably low temperatures for the rest of the week for most of the UK.

Met Office forecaster Eleanor Compton said: "We can expect to see bands of rain and some heavy showers developing. There will be sunshine for some areas, but others will have persistent rain and quite a brisk wind, especially the western side of the UK and across the south of England. "On Tuesday we’ll still be under the influence of this area of low pressure. It’ll be very cloudy and we’ll see further showers, although they’ll probably not be as bad as Monday.

FORECAST TODAY

A band of showery rain in the south-east corner of England will gradually clear eastwards, with the rain easing as it does so. It will be rather cloudy across Wales, Northern Ireland, western parts of England along with western and northern parts of Scotland, with scattered showers or longer spells of rain, possibly heavy at times. Elsewhere across the UK, generally dry with clear spells.

TOMORROW

Across eastern England it is expected to be a bright day with a mixture of sunny spells and scattered showers, some of which are likely to be heavy with the risk of thunder. Elsewhere across England, sunny intervals and scattered showers. Wales will be rather cloudy with scattered showers, but some sunshine is possible in some southern areas later. Cloudy in Northern Ireland with the risk of an isolated shower. Rather cloudy in the far north of Scotland with patchy rain. Further south across the rest of Scotland, some sunshine but also scattered showers, these heavy and possibly thundery at times in the east.

WEDNESDAY

Rather cloudy with showery rain across southern Scotland and northern England, heavy at times with the risk of thunder. Cloudy too in south-west England with the risk of rain. Elsewhere, sunny spells, but the risk of a few showers. Cool.

THURSDAY

A band of showery rain is expected to continue to move south-eastwards across the rest of England and Wales. Elsewhere, sunny spells and the risk of showers. Cool.

http://www.express.c...rough-the-week-

FREAK WEATHER HITS UK

SOGGY Brits are drying out today after being battered by a whole month’s rain in just two days. Weather experts said Saturday and Sunday’s downpours were more like November than July. Some places saw five hours of wild weather with two inches of water. And it is set to get worse with the school summer holidays looking even gloomier.

The topsy-turvy weather has also led to a mega bug invasion, according to pest exterminators who have said they have had a four-fold increase in calls. In London the rain did not stop for five hours, causing minor flooding. Soggy conditions drenched golfer Darren Clarke’s ­triumph at the Open in Sandwich, Kent. And the Lovebox music festival in east London and Latitude in Suffolk became mud-baths.

The wettest place in the UK was Spadeadam, Cumbria, which saw over two inches of rain on Saturday. It was due another two yesterday, meaning it was battered by an entire month’s water in one go. Albemarle, near Newcastle upon Tyne, was also a victim of the wet weather, as 1.6ins caused flash flooding.

Beaches were deserted in Exmouth, Devon, and Tynemouth, Tyne and Wear as winds rose to 50mph. And cyclists on a London to Southend bike ride for the British Heart Foundation hit wheely big problems as they struggled through floods in Brentwood, Essex.

Millions of school kids due to break-up on Friday can forget the sun, say experts. Met Office forecaster ­Michael Lawrence said: “It will stay generally unsettled until mid-August.â€

http://www.dailystar...ather-hits-UK-/

Brolly up..it will rain for a month

Summer gets glummer as storms sweep UK

RAIN will lash Britain for the next THIRTY DAYS, forecasters predicted yesterday.

Millions face a holiday washout with storms expected to whip in until at least August 16. It comes after many areas were drenched by more than half their average July rainfall between midday on Saturday and noon yesterday. Wettest was SPADEADAM in Cumbria with 50.4mm (2ins), followed by deluged STRATHALLAN in Scotland with 41.8mm (1.6ins).

Flood

A road bridge at GREAT CORBY, Cumbria, collapsed after being clobbered by a flash flood which also hit a handful of homes. High winds forced the Royal Navy to scrap a bid to detonate a live 2,000lb Second World War mine picked up by a dredger off the Essex coast at CLACTON. Much of Britain will be hit by showers or longer spells of rain today.

Tuesday is then expected to be cloudy with showers - possibly thundery. Some sun will break through on Wednesday, but showers are again likely. It will remain cool on all three days. A Met Office spokesman said: "We're only able to forecast for 30 days at a time, and we expect it to remain unsettled for all this period."

The dire prediction seems to back up the St Swithin's Day rhyme, which says if it rains on July 15 - last Friday - it will continue to pour for another 40 days. Historians believe the verse can be traced to 1315 when almost six weeks of rain began on that date.

Meanwhile, the rain and high winds hit golf's The Open at Royal St George's in Kent. But 42-year-old Irishman Darren Clarke defied the conditions to lift the trophy. Frustrated Rory McIlroy, 22 - who won the US Open last month - suffered a one-shot penalty when a gust moved his ball on a green after he had started his shot.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3700222/Brolly-upit-will-rain-for-a-month.html#ixzz1SSPaRpFr

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

STAMPEDE TO START THE SUMMER HOLS

TWO million Brits are flying away on their hols today as a heatwave hits the UK. Temperatures at home are set to hit almost 80F with summer finally arriving after a month of downpours. The mercury will nudge 26C (79F) in the south of England and 24C (75F) in the north as millions of kids begin their school holidays.

Jonathan Powell, of Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It’s a super start to the holidays after the wet and cool summer so far. “We predicted a brolly-and-sun-block summer and it will be the sunblock that’s needed as the warmer spell lasts well into next week.â€

But millions who decided not to risk the British weather are heading abroad this weekend, with the top destinations Spain, the Canaries, the Balearics, Portugal and Turkey. Mark Tanzer, ABTA chief executive, said: “This weekend is one the busiest of the year. “Traditional favourites in the eurozone have bounced back with customers taking advantage of some of the lowest day-to-day expenses overseas.†Motoring organisations have warned those staying at home they face massive jams this weekend. They estimate a whopping 14million motorists will start their summer break by driving to the coast or to see friends and family.

http://www.dailystar...he-summer-hols/

HERE COMES THE SUN, JUST IN TIME FOR SCHOOL HOLIDAYS

SCHOOL is out for the summer – and a blast of warm weather is returning just in time as millions of Britons start their holidays. While two million people will jet off abroad, a record-breaking number will holiday at home where they can bask in 78F (26C) sunshine next week. An estimated 20 million people are set to enjoy “staycationsâ€, giving the UK tourism industry a £7.3billion boost. The top five UK holiday destinations are Cornwall, the Lake ­District, Devon, London and Edinburgh.

VisitEngland chief executive James ­Berresford said “summer had officially begunâ€, adding: “There’s no excuse for Britons not to get out and about and enjoy everything on offer.†This weekend will see an end to the downpours which have plagued July, with sunny spells bringing temperatures in the low 70s Fahrenheit. But by mid-week it will be even warmer. Met Office forecaster Helen Chivers said that today would be “really dry and a lot of the UK will have a very nice day – you would be unfortunate to catch a light showerâ€.

She added that temperatures then pick up from Monday onwards, reaching 75F (24C) to 78F in many areas of England by Wednesday, with Scotland only slightly cooler. “The good weather stays with us on Thursday and Friday,†she added. The rush for the seaside, airport and ferry terminals will inevitably cause chaos on the roads with 14 million cars expected to cram on to the motorways over the course of the weekend. Last night motorists were warned to brace themselves for delays on major routes to UK tourist hotspots with the M25, the A303 through Hampshire, ­Wiltshire and Somerset, the M3, M27 and A31 from Winchester to the Dorset coast and the M5 between Bristol and Exeter expected to be snarled up.

http://www.express.c...school-holidays

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  • Location: Atherstone on Stour: 160ft asl
  • Location: Atherstone on Stour: 160ft asl
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  • Location: Peterborough N.Cambridgeshire
  • Location: Peterborough N.Cambridgeshire
I don't agree with Bill.

My expectations became higher simply because of the excellent run of summers we had during the 1990s until 2007. Im sure this is the case for many people and nothing to do with foreign holidays.

Personally I don't care what the averages suggest. The fact is since 2007 any hot spells have been very shortlived with this summer being a good example. The reason I mention averages is because i've known a summer much wetter than this year but the summer was still far better because the rainfall fell via thunderstorms due to heat. Much of the rainfall this summer has been via fronts. The same can be said for temps. I remember during the poor summer of 2007 the Met O said the temps were still average but this was only because the weather was so unsettled the cloud cover at night prevented the temps from dropping.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Well just as the models show low pressure moving in, the papers recon summer is set to return,

HOT NEWS, HERE COMES SUMMER... AT LONG LAST

SUMMER finally arrives this weekend with temperatures set to hit 78.8F (26C) before rising to a scorching 86F next week.

We might not get wall-to-wall sunshine, say forecasters but they do expect the second-hottest spell of year, almost matching the peak temperature so far of 92F at the Olympic Park, in east London, on June 27. The heatwave will be good news for families on school holidays after the first week of the six-week break saw temperatures reach 77F in England and Scotland.

Met Office weathermen have forecast dry weather and sunny spells this weekend, reaching around 75F today and tomorrow, rising to 79F on Sunday. Most parts will share in the warmth, with Scotland and northern and western coasts only a few degrees cooler.

The sunshine will continue with 81F in London on Monday and up to 77F elsewhere in England, before Tuesday’s 84F in the South-east, with 86F possible on Wednesday. The North-west will be slightly cooler.

Forecasters said the hot weather will bring in thundery outbreaks but they expect the temperatures will be almost as warm on Thursday, before dropping slightly but remaining above average with decent sunny spells towards next weekend. Met Office forecaster Greg Dewhurst said: “There’s a very decent week’s weather ahead and it will feel pleasant in the sunshine.

“After recent unsettled weather, this spell – which has already seen nice days this week – is great for families at the beginning of the school holidays. “Temperatures will get gradually hotter every day from Saturday until Wednesday, by when we should see 80F or 82F in the South-east with a possibility of 86F. There’s a slow breakdown from then on, with possible thundery showers, but temperatures will be almost as warm and above

The hot spell makes up for a poor first half of summer, with heavy rain and the coolest June overall since 1991 in central England, and with the West having its coolest first half of July since 1988.

After regular rain washed out most summer music festivals, the sparkling weekend forecast is great news for 50,000 fans heading to the Global Gathering festival near Stratford-upon-Avon.

Cricket lovers are also in for a treat at England’s Second Test against India at Trent Bridge, while football fans will have great weather for the Emirates Cup in north London between Arsenal, New York Red Bulls, Boca Juniors and Paris Saint-Germain.

Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “Summer finally ignites this weekend, with scorching temperatures as we go into next week. “England will see 82 and possibly 86F before heavy rain comes in around midweek. “Bar these showery days, summer should hold until mid-August so people who enjoy being out and about can make the most of it.â€

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/261801/Hot-news-here-comes-summer-at-long-last-

Hooray! Summer Weather To Finally Hit UK

Summer looks due to belatedly arrive to Britain this week after an extended spell of disappointing weather.

After a cloudy start to Friday, many places across the country will enjoy some warmth over the weekend - but constant sunshine is unlikely, forecasters predict. Temperatures could reach the mid to late 20s, with the best of the weather likely to be over many central and eastern parts.

Crowds gathering in Edinburgh for the wedding of Zara Phillips and Mike Tindall on Saturday can look forward to fine conditions with temperatures getting into the 20s. But Sky News weather presenter Jo Wheeler said the trend will be towards warmer weather through the weekend and into the coming week.

She said: "Saturday will again bring a mixture of cloud and sunshine, although western parts will turn dull through the afternoon with some patchy rain later."That rain will stall over northern and western parts on Sunday. "But central and eastern areas of the country will see temperatures up to 25 degrees Celsius, that's 77 Fahrenheit."

With school holidays well under way, the warmer weather is likely to be welcomed by many families looking to take a break in the UK. Away from the West, the start of next week is predicted to be dry and bright, with the South East due to be very warm by Tuesday. Earlier this month, heavy rain and strong winds battered golfers and spectators alike at the Open Championship at Sandwich, Kent. Centre court at Wimbledon also had to close its roof a number of times this year for the first time since it was installed in 2009.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16039669

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Brits flock to beaches as 'summer returns'

BRITS basked in glorious sunshine today as forecasters predicted the warm weather was not just a "blip" in what has been a washout summer.

Sunseekers hit beaches across the UK as the mercury was set to hit 26°C (79°F) today. And experts even suggested the country might be on the brink of a heatwave as temperatures of almost 30°C (86°F) were expected later in the week.

Wettest

The latest sunshine comes after bursts of good weather were quickly followed by torrential rain recently. Glastonbury and Wimbledon were faced with heavy downpours. And July was one of the coldest and wettest in decades in some areas. The mercury is expected to head towards the 30°C mark by Tuesday and the heat is set to carry on through Wednesday.

But forecasters have warned the heat could be "stifling and very oppressive" — and could lead to a health warning.

Jonathan Powell, of Positive Weather Solutions, said: "This week's heat will be stifling and very oppressive at times, with the very young and elderly at risk from heat-associated health issues."Keeping yourself hydrated is the key and, at times of extreme temperatures such as this, checking on an elderly neighbour or relative could be a life-saver."

His warning comes after even the sporadic hot weather in June accompanied an eight per cent rise in deaths. Meanwhile, high humidity could lead to renewed heavy rain from Tuesday in the North West. This could reach the South East by Thursday. But forecasters said temperatures would still be high, with 27°C (81°F) expected in the South tomorrow, 28°C (82°F) on Tuesday and 29°C (84°F) or higher on Wednesday The East, Midlands and North East will be just a degree behind, with Yorkshire expected to reach 27°C on Tuesday. The West Coast and North West will be cooler but still get 20°C (68°F) or 21°C (70°F) every day.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3724212/Brits-flock-to-beaches-as-summer-returns.html

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

THE SUMMER SIZZLE BEFORE THE STORM

FORECASTERS say Britain will swelter in steamy temperatures this week, prompting a series of storms. After weeks of wet, cloudy weather temperatures in England will rise from 73F (23C) yesterday to highs of 86F. Bright, muggy spells will be interspersed with tropical downpours as hot and humid air gets trapped over south and central Britain. Beaches across the South were packed at the weekend. All the deck chairs were snapped up before midday on Saturday at Bournemouth and Brighton was full to overflowing. The Met Office said temperatures would hit 86F by Wednesday in the South before falling back to 75F towards the end of the week.

Jonathan Powell, of Positive Weather Solutions, warned yesterday the mini-heatwave will be short-lived. He said: “The weather will break on Wednesday with much of the South, from Cornwall onwards, experiencing violent thunderstorms. “From the middle of August the weather will collapse back into cold rain showers.†The elderly and infirm have been warned to take extra care during the steamy spell because it can be more difficult for them to recover from heat stress. Figures from the Office for National Statistics show a seven or eight per cent increase in deaths during June’s 82F mini-heatwave. Mr Powell added: “Keeping yourself hydrated is the key. Checking on an elderly neighbour or relative could be a life-saver.â€

http://www.express.c...efore-the-storm

BRITS TO BAKE IN 100F

BRITAIN will hit record temperatures this month as the mercury hits a blistering 100F. A heatwave starting this week will warm us up so much that bookies reckon the UK will get its hottest day on record before August is out. Most parts of the UK can expect 24C (75F) today, rising to 28C (82F) tomorrow and a sizzling 30C (86F) in the south on Wednesday, says the Met Office. But the bookies predict the thermometers will top a searing 38C in the shade in August. That’s 100F – equalling the UK record set in Faversham, Kent in 2003.

Rupert Adams of William Hill said: “Summer has been non-existent so far but our odds suggest August could make up for all the disappointments.â€Sun-seekers were expected to descend on the UK’s beaches and parks during the busy school holiday period. But the heatwave could also trigger a health alert after the number of deaths soared by 8% during the UK’s last hot spell in June.Then the Department of Health warned that the old and very young were particularly at risk and urged people to keep a close eye on their kids and check on elderly relatives and neighbours.

Forecaster Jonathan Powell added: “This week’s heat will be oppressive at times, with the very young and elderly at risk. Keeping yourself hydrated is the key. â€And the heat will bring other hazards, with the soaring temperatures set to spark an infestation of flying ants. London Zoo’s Dave Clarke said the humid conditions will see thousands of queen ants emerge from their nests looking for a mate.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/203950/Brits-to-bake-in-100F/

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Some of the media reports here are nonsense really, and this really goes to show the SE of England media bias. July locally has been sunnier than average and drier than average, especially for the start of July. I really don't know where they are getting a washout summer, as this July is much drier than any year since 2006, and I think generally across the UK, July has been drier than many recent years. I think the salient point is here, Western areas have done better than eastern areas at times, especially at the start of July , but in the media mindset, this means bad weather everywhere. Now we are back in the Eastern (and especially SE areas) getting the best weather, and the media are claiming heatwave.

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  • Location: Windermere 120m asl
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Yes the media has a very southeast-london bias, so whenever it looks like 30 degrees could be reached in the centre of London, you get loads of reports saying 'britain about to bask in medittearan conditions' or something along those lines. The same old reports appear in the newspapers with photos of packed beaches and always it seems Brighton and Bournemouth. They usually show some young women in bikinis and a toddler with an ice cream in their hand. It is simple filler, and the media churn out the same old stuff year in year out.

What they fail to do is paint the full picture or indeed say something like temps in scotland could even hit 70f - wow!!!, or they show a rain sodden west coast of scotland or wales and deserted beaches (hardly med conditions). You never see the same reports when scotland, wales, n ireland and west/north england is experiencing the better conditions and the SE is suffering.. mind this very rarely happens during our summers, but not so uncommon in the spring it has to be said.

Oh I notice BBC weather forecasts are showing the temp graph for London again - saying temps hitting 30 degrees on Wednesday, yes in central London but not many other places, those temp graphs really do annoy me. I do get tired of the media in the height of the summer, it does become very lazy and in terms of the weather it at its most SE biased. Roll on September in this respect..

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  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Yes the media has a very southeast-london bias, so whenever it looks like 30 degrees could be reached in the centre of London, you get loads of reports saying 'britain about to bask in medittearan conditions' or something along those lines. The same old reports appear in the newspapers with photos of packed beaches and always it seems Brighton and Bournemouth. They usually show some young women in bikinis and a toddler with an ice cream in their hand. It is simple filler, and the media churn out the same old stuff year in year out.

What they fail to do is paint the full picture or indeed say something like temps in scotland could even hit 70f - wow!!!, or they show a rain sodden west coast of scotland or wales and deserted beaches (hardly med conditions). You never see the same reports when scotland, wales, n ireland and west/north england is experiencing the better conditions and the SE is suffering.. mind this very rarely happens during our summers, but not so uncommon in the spring it has to be said.

Oh I notice BBC weather forecasts are showing the temp graph for London again - saying temps hitting 30 degrees on Wednesday, yes in central London but not many other places, those temp graphs really do annoy me. I do get tired of the media in the height of the summer, it does become very lazy and in terms of the weather it at its most SE biased. Roll on September in this respect..

What really annoys me in circumstances such as these is when you come across lines such as "make the most of it, it won't last" or "things will cool down to near normal in the next few days" when your area never got that warm and sunny in the first place.

It's almost like you should be grateful that you managed to reach 21C under overcast skies and heavy rain. :rolleyes:

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Britian set for 2 week heatwave.........Apparently

BRITAIN TO BAKE FOR TWO WEEKS

BAKING Britain is set to reach a scorching 90F(32C) today – and that will be just the start of a predicted, two-week heatwave. Nowhere is the temperature expected to fall below 86F today and tomorrow in the South, and the North will see highs of around 77F. Yesterday was the hottest August 1 for more than a decade with a high of 82F in London, two degrees warmer than the Spanish city of Barcelona and on par with Malaga.

Temperatures could even put those in India to shame with Mumbai and Goa expected to see only 79F. But showers, cloud and an “unusual†lack of wind will make it a “stifling and very oppressive†hot snap, bringing potential health risks for the elderly and sick.

An official heat-health alert has not yet been issued but the Met Office yesterday said temperatures were “on the boundary†of being high and sustained enough to warrant one. An official alert requires two consecutive days at 86F in the South, or 84F in the North, with temperatures not dropping below 59F overnight in between.

Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It is going to be like an oven with the lack of wind and close cloud cover making it feel almost tropical. “In secluded areas, where there is not much wind, we could be looking at highs touching 90F.

“The usual warnings to the elderly and people with health issues should apply over the next couple of days. â€There was an eight-per cent rise in deaths during June’s mini-heatwave when temperatures hit 82F, with 1,468 deaths in the South-east in seven days up until June 10 compared with 1,378 deaths the following week.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/262601/Britain-to-bake-for-two-weeks

BRITAN'S INDIAN SUMMER

BRITAIN will be hotter than India today, despite the risk of showers in some parts. Temperatures are expected to hit 31C (88F) but experts say “violent†thunderstorms could then drench southern England over the next few days. After the mercury hit 28C (82.4F) yesterday, forecasters said today could match the five-year record of 33.1C (91.5F) seen in Graves-end, Kent, in June.

Mumbai and the Indian state of Goa will only reach 26C in the next two days. The Met Office’s Sarah Holland said high pressure from the Mediterranean had arrived over the UK, causing the rise in temperatures.

Brits have already been flocking to the seaside this week, with 50,000 people descending on Bournemouth. Marie Simmonds, 34, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, was on the beach with her children and said: “It’s lovely and warm and hopefully it will stay that way for a few days. When it’s like this you don’t need the Med. â€But this week could still turn into a washout, as Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “The threat from thunderstorm activity is intensifying, with violent storms ahead.â€

Humidity will also be a problem, according to experts, who say even at night the temperatures could hit 19C (66.2F).Health advisers said the hot nights could be potentially lethal for the old, ill and very young because it is more difficult for their bodies to recover from heat stress. Britain’s death rate leapt by 8% in areas most affected by June’s hot spell. In the east of England, 1,015 deaths were registered in the week ending June 10, while 941 deaths were recorded the following week.

In 2003, a heatwave saw deaths among Brits aged 75 and over increase by 60%, with 2,000 extra deaths in the UK and 22,000 in Europe. Experts recommend drinking plenty of cold drinks while avoiding excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/204092/Britan-s-Indian-summer/

Turkey sizzler

30°C heatwave makes UK hotter than Istanbul

BRITAIN sizzled in temperatures hotter than Turkey yesterday - and it's set to be just as warm today.

Yesterday's high, 29.1°C (84°F), was recorded at Gravesend, Kent, beating the 27°C (80°F) in Istanbul, Mumbai and Ibiza. Thousands flocked to South Coast beaches, with Bournemouth and Southsea the most packed. In Brighton, a teenage lad was arrested for "tombstoning" - taking a dangerous leap into the sea from a great height.

The heat is set to hit 29°C again today, and we could see 30°C (86°F) by tomorrow. But "violent" thunderstorms will soon bring the spell to an end. The Met Office said: "The conditions are likely to set off thunderstorms that will herald low temperatures. People should make the most of the weather while they can."

Gravesend also recorded the hottest UK temperature so far this year - 33.1°C (91.5°F) on June 27.

Experts have warned that the stifling night-time humidity and 19°C (66°F) heat could cause sleeping problems - and even pose a risk to health. Hot nights can be lethal for the old, ill and very young as it is difficult for them to recover from the day's heat.

In case you've forgotten since the last time we had a heatwave, here are some tips on how to stay cool.

- Wear lightweight, light-coloured, loose-fitting clothes and cover as much skin as possible.

- Wear a hat. A floppy one with a wide brim is ideal.

- A damp flannel or scarf on the back of the neck cools the head.

- Drink plenty of water even if you don't feel especially thirsty.

- Avoid alcohol and caffeine - they cause dehydration.

- Eat light meals, especially salads and fruit as they contain high proportions of water.

- Avoid hot drinks and spicy food. Contrary to myth, they don't cool you down - they heat you up

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3727248/UK-warmer-than-Turkey-for-now.html

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Britian set for 2 week heatwave.........Apparently

BRITAIN TO BAKE FOR TWO WEEKS

BAKING Britain is set to reach a scorching 90F(32C) today – and that will be just the start of a predicted, two-week heatwave. Nowhere is the temperature expected to fall below 86F today and tomorrow in the South, and the North will see highs of around 77F. Yesterday was the hottest August 1 for more than a decade with a high of 82F in London, two degrees warmer than the Spanish city of Barcelona and on par with Malaga.

Temperatures could even put those in India to shame with Mumbai and Goa expected to see only 79F. But showers, cloud and an “unusual†lack of wind will make it a “stifling and very oppressive†hot snap, bringing potential health risks for the elderly and sick.

An official heat-health alert has not yet been issued but the Met Office yesterday said temperatures were “on the boundary†of being high and sustained enough to warrant one. An official alert requires two consecutive days at 86F in the South, or 84F in the North, with temperatures not dropping below 59F overnight in between.

Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It is going to be like an oven with the lack of wind and close cloud cover making it feel almost tropical. “In secluded areas, where there is not much wind, we could be looking at highs touching 90F.

“The usual warnings to the elderly and people with health issues should apply over the next couple of days. â€There was an eight-per cent rise in deaths during June’s mini-heatwave when temperatures hit 82F, with 1,468 deaths in the South-east in seven days up until June 10 compared with 1,378 deaths the following week.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/262601/Britain-to-bake-for-two-weeks

BRITAN'S INDIAN SUMMER

BRITAIN will be hotter than India today, despite the risk of showers in some parts. Temperatures are expected to hit 31C (88F) but experts say “violent†thunderstorms could then drench southern England over the next few days. After the mercury hit 28C (82.4F) yesterday, forecasters said today could match the five-year record of 33.1C (91.5F) seen in Graves-end, Kent, in June.

Mumbai and the Indian state of Goa will only reach 26C in the next two days. The Met Office’s Sarah Holland said high pressure from the Mediterranean had arrived over the UK, causing the rise in temperatures.

Brits have already been flocking to the seaside this week, with 50,000 people descending on Bournemouth. Marie Simmonds, 34, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, was on the beach with her children and said: “It’s lovely and warm and hopefully it will stay that way for a few days. When it’s like this you don’t need the Med. â€But this week could still turn into a washout, as Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “The threat from thunderstorm activity is intensifying, with violent storms ahead.â€

Humidity will also be a problem, according to experts, who say even at night the temperatures could hit 19C (66.2F).Health advisers said the hot nights could be potentially lethal for the old, ill and very young because it is more difficult for their bodies to recover from heat stress. Britain’s death rate leapt by 8% in areas most affected by June’s hot spell. In the east of England, 1,015 deaths were registered in the week ending June 10, while 941 deaths were recorded the following week.

In 2003, a heatwave saw deaths among Brits aged 75 and over increase by 60%, with 2,000 extra deaths in the UK and 22,000 in Europe. Experts recommend drinking plenty of cold drinks while avoiding excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/204092/Britan-s-Indian-summer/

Turkey sizzler

30°C heatwave makes UK hotter than Istanbul

BRITAIN sizzled in temperatures hotter than Turkey yesterday - and it's set to be just as warm today.

Yesterday's high, 29.1°C (84°F), was recorded at Gravesend, Kent, beating the 27°C (80°F) in Istanbul, Mumbai and Ibiza. Thousands flocked to South Coast beaches, with Bournemouth and Southsea the most packed. In Brighton, a teenage lad was arrested for "tombstoning" - taking a dangerous leap into the sea from a great height.

The heat is set to hit 29°C again today, and we could see 30°C (86°F) by tomorrow. But "violent" thunderstorms will soon bring the spell to an end. The Met Office said: "The conditions are likely to set off thunderstorms that will herald low temperatures. People should make the most of the weather while they can."

Gravesend also recorded the hottest UK temperature so far this year - 33.1°C (91.5°F) on June 27.

Experts have warned that the stifling night-time humidity and 19°C (66°F) heat could cause sleeping problems - and even pose a risk to health. Hot nights can be lethal for the old, ill and very young as it is difficult for them to recover from the day's heat.

In case you've forgotten since the last time we had a heatwave, here are some tips on how to stay cool.

- Wear lightweight, light-coloured, loose-fitting clothes and cover as much skin as possible.

- Wear a hat. A floppy one with a wide brim is ideal.

- A damp flannel or scarf on the back of the neck cools the head.

- Drink plenty of water even if you don't feel especially thirsty.

- Avoid alcohol and caffeine - they cause dehydration.

- Eat light meals, especially salads and fruit as they contain high proportions of water.

- Avoid hot drinks and spicy food. Contrary to myth, they don't cool you down - they heat you up

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3727248/UK-warmer-than-Turkey-for-now.html

I long stopped reading the newspaper sensationalist reports on impending freezes and heatwaves - what a load of ****. The Express tends to be the worse culprit, where on earth have they got there 2 week heatwave forecast from... whats the betting when the rains come later this week/weekend, all of a sudden we get reports of rain sodden end to heatwave - the heatwave that never was, and there is no heatwave here whatsoever. I pity the man who buys into such reports.

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  • Weather Preferences: Snow and thunderstorms
  • Location: Wrexham, North East Wales 80m asl

Britian set for 2 week heatwave.........Apparently

BRITAIN TO BAKE FOR TWO WEEKS

BAKING Britain is set to reach a scorching 90F(32C) today – and that will be just the start of a predicted, two-week heatwave. Nowhere is the temperature expected to fall below 86F today and tomorrow in the South, and the North will see highs of around 77F. Yesterday was the hottest August 1 for more than a decade with a high of 82F in London, two degrees warmer than the Spanish city of Barcelona and on par with Malaga.

Temperatures could even put those in India to shame with Mumbai and Goa expected to see only 79F. But showers, cloud and an “unusual†lack of wind will make it a “stifling and very oppressive†hot snap, bringing potential health risks for the elderly and sick.

An official heat-health alert has not yet been issued but the Met Office yesterday said temperatures were “on the boundary†of being high and sustained enough to warrant one. An official alert requires two consecutive days at 86F in the South, or 84F in the North, with temperatures not dropping below 59F overnight in between.

Jonathan Powell, forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “It is going to be like an oven with the lack of wind and close cloud cover making it feel almost tropical. “In secluded areas, where there is not much wind, we could be looking at highs touching 90F.

“The usual warnings to the elderly and people with health issues should apply over the next couple of days. â€There was an eight-per cent rise in deaths during June’s mini-heatwave when temperatures hit 82F, with 1,468 deaths in the South-east in seven days up until June 10 compared with 1,378 deaths the following week.

http://www.express.c...e-for-two-weeks

BRITAN'S INDIAN SUMMER

BRITAIN will be hotter than India today, despite the risk of showers in some parts. Temperatures are expected to hit 31C (88F) but experts say “violent†thunderstorms could then drench southern England over the next few days. After the mercury hit 28C (82.4F) yesterday, forecasters said today could match the five-year record of 33.1C (91.5F) seen in Graves-end, Kent, in June.

Mumbai and the Indian state of Goa will only reach 26C in the next two days. The Met Office’s Sarah Holland said high pressure from the Mediterranean had arrived over the UK, causing the rise in temperatures.

Brits have already been flocking to the seaside this week, with 50,000 people descending on Bournemouth. Marie Simmonds, 34, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, was on the beach with her children and said: “It’s lovely and warm and hopefully it will stay that way for a few days. When it’s like this you don’t need the Med. â€But this week could still turn into a washout, as Positive Weather Solutions’ senior forecaster Jonathan Powell said: “The threat from thunderstorm activity is intensifying, with violent storms ahead.â€

Humidity will also be a problem, according to experts, who say even at night the temperatures could hit 19C (66.2F).Health advisers said the hot nights could be potentially lethal for the old, ill and very young because it is more difficult for their bodies to recover from heat stress. Britain’s death rate leapt by 8% in areas most affected by June’s hot spell. In the east of England, 1,015 deaths were registered in the week ending June 10, while 941 deaths were recorded the following week.

In 2003, a heatwave saw deaths among Brits aged 75 and over increase by 60%, with 2,000 extra deaths in the UK and 22,000 in Europe. Experts recommend drinking plenty of cold drinks while avoiding excess alcohol, caffeine and hot drinks.

http://www.dailystar...-Indian-summer/

Turkey sizzler

30°C heatwave makes UK hotter than Istanbul

BRITAIN sizzled in temperatures hotter than Turkey yesterday - and it's set to be just as warm today.

Yesterday's high, 29.1°C (84°F), was recorded at Gravesend, Kent, beating the 27°C (80°F) in Istanbul, Mumbai and Ibiza. Thousands flocked to South Coast beaches, with Bournemouth and Southsea the most packed. In Brighton, a teenage lad was arrested for "tombstoning" - taking a dangerous leap into the sea from a great height.

The heat is set to hit 29°C again today, and we could see 30°C (86°F) by tomorrow. But "violent" thunderstorms will soon bring the spell to an end. The Met Office said: "The conditions are likely to set off thunderstorms that will herald low temperatures. People should make the most of the weather while they can."

Gravesend also recorded the hottest UK temperature so far this year - 33.1°C (91.5°F) on June 27.

Experts have warned that the stifling night-time humidity and 19°C (66°F) heat could cause sleeping problems - and even pose a risk to health. Hot nights can be lethal for the old, ill and very young as it is difficult for them to recover from the day's heat.

In case you've forgotten since the last time we had a heatwave, here are some tips on how to stay cool.

- Wear lightweight, light-coloured, loose-fitting clothes and cover as much skin as possible.

- Wear a hat. A floppy one with a wide brim is ideal.

- A damp flannel or scarf on the back of the neck cools the head.

- Drink plenty of water even if you don't feel especially thirsty.

- Avoid alcohol and caffeine - they cause dehydration.

- Eat light meals, especially salads and fruit as they contain high proportions of water.

- Avoid hot drinks and spicy food. Contrary to myth, they don't cool you down - they heat you up

http://www.thesun.co...ey-for-now.html

Absolute codswallop! We had a maximum temperature of 22c today....yup just like India :rolleyes:

Also...why in the name of Christ do the media persist with the infuriating habit of screeching headlines such as "UK hotter than Istanbul"??? WHY? Why is it when the South East of England gets hot weather it becomes "BRITAIN hotter than Spain...Turkey...Med...blah blah"

I can't say i'm overly impressed either with the Met Office comment "People should make the most of the weather while they can" Aye...should really have made the most of yesterday's rain....and todays often cloudy skies and 22c :rolleyes:

WE DON'T ALL LIVE IN THE SOUTH EAST!!!!!!!!!!!! COMPRENDE??? Does my bloody head in! :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

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