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  • Location: Jordanstown, Co. Antrim
  • Weather Preferences: Cold winters, warm sunny summers.
  • Location: Jordanstown, Co. Antrim

This appeared in the Belfast Telegraph this evening:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/weather-northern-ireland-facing-coldest-winter-since-2010-as-russian-beast-from-the-east-sweeps-in-30768218.html

The main difference being that this isn't another fantasy from James Madden, but sourced from the UK Met Office. However, I can't seem to find a 90 day weather forecast on the Met Office's website:

Northern Ireland is bracing itself for the coldest winter since 2010 as a biting cold airflow, chillingly dubbed 'the beast from the east', will roll in from Russia.

The Baltic blasts are not expected until after Christmas, according to the Met Office 90-day forecast, but a taste of things to come is set to hit this week with the first freeze of the autumn set to take hold.

In a 90-day forecast, the Met Office predicted biting easterly winds in the New Year with the risk of freezing conditions

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.

^^

 

I really doubt the Met Office would mention biting Easterly winds and freezing temperatures in even weeks 3 and 4 range never mind week 6, are you sure they haven't been mis quoted.

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  • Location: Camborne, Cornwall
  • Location: Camborne, Cornwall

Rao, Corbyn and Madden are back -

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/540052/UK-weather-December-forecast-heavy-snow-winter-freeze

 

"FREEZING BRITAIN: UK faces SNOWSTORMS and plunging temperatures as ARCTIC December hits"

 

Hilarious stuff.

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Posted
  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

 

Basically they've taken it all from the contingency planners forecast which I believe is still experimental

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  • Location: Wigan
  • Location: Wigan

Looking forward to bashing the met office at the end of Jan when this LRF goes pear shaped yet again for them, will they ever learn. If they dont know for sure they should shut up, and  stick with their more reliable short term forecasts.

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  • Location: The North Kent countryside
  • Weather Preferences: Hot summers, snowy winters and thunderstorms!
  • Location: The North Kent countryside

In all seriousness can they not legally do anything about papers like the Express with their made up weather stories? Or is the vagueness and unpredictable nature of weather enough to let them get away with it?

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  • Location: Nottingham, UK
  • Weather Preferences: Cold and snowy or warm and sunny
  • Location: Nottingham, UK

Looking forward to bashing the met office at the end of Jan when this LRF goes pear shaped yet again for them, will they ever learn. If they dont know for sure they should shut up, and  stick with their more reliable short term forecasts.

 

It may not go pear shaped? I'd be surprised if we see widespread low level snow before January. Even then we could end up with just 1 significant snow event (such as 2011-2012 winter where we had 1 widespread snow event in Feb) but the rest of the winter being largely mild. Nobody knows what will happen but if the Met Office didn't try to create long range probabilities then the public would know doubt bash them for not having a go at it.

 

The Met office know a hell of a lot more than I do, so with the data they have available, I would rather put my trust in them and not bash them. Its all still experimental (hence why they are having a new super computer built), so it will be inaccurate at times, but that's not a reason to have a go at them.

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  • Location: Irlam
  • Location: Irlam
You make a great newspaper editor. Cherry pick something, then give that as a one line headline as though it is a definite.

In reality, it is the Met Office winter forecast and they are saying there is a greater probability of a milder winter.

It does not necessarily mean a mild winter ahead as you put it.

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  • Location: Nottingham, UK
  • Weather Preferences: Cold and snowy or warm and sunny
  • Location: Nottingham, UK

UK big freeze to start next week according to Exacta weather:

 

The big freeze starts next week for the UK & Ireland - models and other forecasters are adjusting (as suggested) @ http://www.exactaweather.com/UK_Long_Range_Forecast.html

Long-range forecasters have vehemently refuted the Government’s mild forecasts up until now. The Met Office, which has up until now distanced itself from the severe cold forecasts, today CONCEDED that though still uncertain “we could still see spells of cold or very cold weatherâ€

 

I don't know what models they are referring to, as they all seem to be showing average temps for next week; maybe a touch below but nothing that will 'freeze' the UK!

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

The express never learn.........

 

FREEZING BRITAIN: UK faces SNOWSTORMS and plunging temperatures as ARCTIC December hits

 

WEATHER forecasters have in the past few hours issued the terrifying warning that devastating snowstorms which crippled parts of America will rip into Britain IN DAYS. A dramatic swing in the position of the jet stream threatens to send temperatures in parts Britain plummeting to an unprecedented levels by the end of NEXT WEEK. Even the Met Office, which has so far distanced itself from the growing body of severe predictions, now agrees there could be “very cold spells†this winter. A set of freak circumstances will collide to trigger a perfect storm of conditions capable of sparking a near NATIONWIDE whiteout.

 

Health and transport officials have been warned to ACT NOW despite short-range forecasts suggesting Britain will enjoy a brief mild spell at the end of this week. The wildly fluctuating jet stream responsible for the extreme dips and rises in temperatures is about unleash frenzied blizzards, freezing fog and brutal frosts which could hold out for weeks. Long-range forecasters now agree the UK is in the firing line for what could turn out to be the most severe winter in history, and have vehemently refuted the Government’s mild forecasts up until now.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/540052/UK-weather-December-forecast-heavy-snow-winter-freeze

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  • Location: Evesham, Worcs, Albion
  • Location: Evesham, Worcs, Albion

You make a great newspaper editor. Cherry pick something, then give that as a one line headline as though it is a definite.

In reality, it is the Met Office winter forecast and they are saying there is a greater probability of a milder winter.

It does not necessarily mean a mild winter ahead as you put it.

Not, it is not a winter forecast.

And all it says is that for Dec, Jan and Feb as a whole there is a higher probability that the we will see more warmer than average temps than colder than average temps.

But as you rightly say, that does not mean we cannot have 2 or 3 weeks of very cold weather.  

 

It does mean we are unlikely to see 6 or more weeks of very cold weather, over that 3 month period.  Although there are still low probabilities that even this could occur (and when did that last happen?)

Edit: and there is nothing in the contingency planners to suggest a white Christmas is unlikely, any more than there is anythingin it to suggest the 16th and 17th of January will be the warmest on record.

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  • Location: The North Kent countryside
  • Weather Preferences: Hot summers, snowy winters and thunderstorms!
  • Location: The North Kent countryside

I have an idea, let's call it an 'Express Dance'. So we know that whatever the Express forecasts, the complete opposite happens.

 

Therefore I propose we start making wild forecasts about how this winter will bring 40C HEATWAVES and air drier than the SAHARA! and see how that works.

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  • Location: Llangwm, Dyfed
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but wind & rain
  • Location: Llangwm, Dyfed
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  • Location: Camborne, Cornwall
  • Location: Camborne, Cornwall

That article was written last year dan, notice the date, and we all know what happened last year.  Didn't stop James Madman predicting exactly the same thing this season which the same old papers are regurgitating.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Netweather has made the expresses latest

 

Now even MORE forecasters warn of Arctic freeze: Britain to plunge into severe cold winter

 

Independent forecasters Netweather were today the latest to join the growing body of meteorologists to warn a “cold-hearted†winter is about to unleash sub-zero temperatures, widespread snow and brutal polar winds. It warned of “significant winds†in December with the “significant wintry spell† lasting “well into Januaryâ€. The terrifying alert echoes earlier warnings from Exacta Weather’s James Madden and Piers Corbyn of WeatherAction who for weeks, with the Express, have warned Britain to prepare for the worst. Mr Corbyn accused officials of ignoring warnings the country is woefully unprepared for what could be one of the harshest winters ever to hit. He said: “The NHS is in very severe trouble after ignoring warnings form anyone other than the Met Office which has insisted the models are suggesting mild conditions this winter. “This is wrong, and we are facing a very serious situation, December is likely to see close to record low temperatures with potentially a very severe winter ahead.†The almost unprecedented whiteout is expected to be the result of a perfect storm of triggers all due to come together from next week.

 

Netweather said a weakened stratospheric vortex and Sudden Stratospheric Warming (SSW) will lead to a  “very disturbed tropospheric polar vortex and negative NAO [negative Arctic Oscillation]. Forecasters Ed O’Toole and Tony Wells warned winter will be hit by major cold snaps rivalling the worst winters in British history. They said: “Winter will have the following characteristics: slightly colder than average; December likely to be the most unsettled month with the risk of a significant wind event; late December and into January is most likely to herald a significant wintry spell. “The jet stream is likely to veer further south as [December] progresses elongating and stretching the North Atlantic polar field. “Towards the end of the month, the UK will be at the mercy of polar air and a cold spell will develop.

 

“The length and timing of the cold spell will be determined by the extent of the stratosphere polar vortex collapse but at this point it is expected to last well into January. “January is likely to start with the continued cold theme (or become cold if the stratospheric wave break hasn’t occurred yet). “The risk of significant snowfall is most likely during these weeks of winter.†“The overall temperatures for January are likely to be below average for the start of the month before recovering later.â€

 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/540842/Weather-forecast-winter-bitter-freeze-UK

 

The actual netweather forecast is here: http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=winter-forecast-2014;sess=

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore

Can I just say that the Express article is clearly an over the top spin of our forecast, which doesn't represent the truth of what was written within it. So best to ignore it!

 

The actual forecast is here:

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=winter-forecast-2014;sess=

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  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl
  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl

Can I just say that the Express article is clearly an over the top spin of our forecast, which doesn't represent the truth of what was written within it. So best to ignore it!

 

The actual forecast is here:

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=winter-forecast-2014;sess=

 

Perhaps, if we all clubbed together, we could send "Fleet street's finest" to somewhere really cold....Siberia perhaps?

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