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  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley
  • Location: North west England/East Lancashire/Burnley

well i av just read the winter forecast and i must say im not impressed i was rather looking forward to a repeat performance of last year.

The Daily Express get worse,

BLIZZARDS ON THE WAY AS WINTER KICKS OFF WITH A HURRICANE ALERT

Daily Express

http://www.express.c...hurricane-alert

75MPH BLIZZARDS SET TO BATTER BRITAIN

BRITAIN will go from mild to wild this weekend as 75mph winds and snowstorms strike.

Blizzards will bring the first real burst of winter as temperatures dive.

Northerners will need to batten down the hatches as more than a foot of snow is predicted.

http://www.dailystar...batter-Britain/

why do you think they have got it wrong? LOL
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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

A spokesman for the Met Office said: “The risk of some very strong winds starts as of mid-morning and will go through until Sunday, when it will start to tail off. “These are storm-force gusts. There’s the potential for damage and disruption from these sort of winds, but they are quite normal for this time of year. “It’s caused by an autumnal storm which is passing to the north of Scotland, but as it goes past it’s bringing these winds and rain with it. We are also expecting heavy showers.â€

Already there have been large falls of snow on high ground and more is expected over the coming week, although lower areas are unlikely to turn white yet, according to the Met Office, in marked contrast to last year. And parts of the country, particularly the Western Isles, have already been battered by storms. The independent weather station at Eoropie on Lewis recorded hurricane winds of 85mph on Thursday night. The gusts were so strong some of the recording equipment blew away.

Station owner John Gray said: “I’ve lived here for 13 years and I have never seen much lightning. There was lightning here last night. It was so bright and strong.â€

In Orkney, Burray and Hope primary schools were closed yesterday during high winds. More than a dozen ferry services run by Caledonian MacBrayne have either been cancelled or disrupted. Western Isles Council warned there was a continued risk of flooding from spray and large breakers during high tide and called on the public to be vigilant. The Scottish Environment Protection Agency has issued flood alerts for Orkney, Shetland, Skye and Lochaber, the Western Isles and Wester Ross.

Also at risk are Argyll and Bute, Caithness and Sutherland and Dumfries and Galloway.

Chris Burton, a forecaster with MeteoGroup, the weather division of the Press Association, said: “Storm-force winds will be caused by a strong depression to the north of Scotland. These winds are more commonly found further out at sea.†Scotland’s biggest ski centre, Cairngorm, has already had a significant snowfall, with a couple of inches as far down the hill as the Coire Cas car park. Snowploughs were called out for the first time this season to clear the access road. Spokesman Colin Kirkwood said: “This will whet the appetite for the slopes. We are all ready to open when we get enough snow, and that could come later next week.â€

Meanwhile, provisional figures suggest the UK could have experienced its second mildest November on record, and its second or third mildest autumn. The average temperature in Scotland for 1-23 November was 8C, which is 3.3C higher than the long-term average, according to the Met Office. In contrast, last year the average temperature in Scotland for November was 2.8C – which is significantly lower than normal. “We are certainly seeing some quite stark differences from one year to the next,†a Met Office spokesman said.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-east-fife/brace_yourself_for_a_wild_weekend_1_1986404

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  • Location: Wallasey Village, Wirral. 15.7m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Temps under 25 degrees and Disruptive Heavy Snowfall any other time
  • Location: Wallasey Village, Wirral. 15.7m ASL.

Mark Vogan just posted this on Facebook if anyone is interested

The Atlantic-Driven pattern continues to evolve exactly as forecasted MONTHS AGO. The strong jet is fuelled by the building and expanding of the cold over the northern latitudes. With the advance in seasons the European high is now getting displaced further south and east. WHAT WILL END AN ATLANTIC-DRIVEN AND INCREASINGLY STORMY CYCLE WILL BE A FLIP TO A NEGATIBE ARCTIC OSCILLATION AND NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION but currently we WANT TO SEE A POSITIVE AO and NAO if we want to see VERY COLD ARCTIC AIR later down the road. Also keep in mind that the deeper into winter you get that blast of chill, the least amount of modification will occur since sunlight will be at a minimum by mid to late December across the more southerly mid-latitudes. In other words, you've got the least amount of sunlight by late December and thus the cold is less mixed out by a typically warmer more southerly latitude such as Britain!

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  • Location: The North Kent countryside
  • Weather Preferences: Hot summers, snowy winters and thunderstorms!
  • Location: The North Kent countryside

If I see one more OMGZ EVERYBODY PANIC!!!111!!! headline from the Express I may stab myself through the face with the nearest sharp object.

Everybody keeps saying 'ooooh I read in the paper it's going to snow this week'. Yes dear, they say that every week.

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  • Location: 10mi NW Leeds 147m asl
  • Location: 10mi NW Leeds 147m asl

Just a quick aside, but I'm in Canada at the moment and the Weather Channel has just had an expert on predicting this winter to be similar to 71/72.

If this happens, and is duplicated over here, what doest that bring, I can't remember anything memorable from about that time.

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  • Location: Monmouth - 280 ft asl
  • Location: Monmouth - 280 ft asl

Just a quick aside, but I'm in Canada at the moment and the Weather Channel has just had an expert on predicting this winter to be similar to 71/72.

If this happens, and is duplicated over here, what doest that bring, I can't remember anything memorable from about that time.

According to TWO's summary of the last 300 winters it was classed as MILD

1971/72...14.8c...MILD

http://theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/twocontent.aspx?type=libgen&id=1499

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  • Location: Gravesend, Kent
  • Location: Gravesend, Kent

I don't know if this is the right thread to post this, but the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/nov/28/secret-whitehall-statistics-published-data) claims the Met Office will be making all its Public Weather Service data free to use from this week. Will Netweather be using this data?

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  • Location: HANDSWORTH BIRMINGHAM B21. 130MASL. 427FT.
  • Weather Preferences: WINTERS WITH HEAVY DISRUPTIVE SNOWFALL AVRAGE SPRING HOT SUMMERS.
  • Location: HANDSWORTH BIRMINGHAM B21. 130MASL. 427FT.

looking and reading the m.o.d thread the express could have a point.

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  • Location: West Sussex
  • Weather Preferences: Outdoors
  • Location: West Sussex

I don't know if this is the right thread to post this, but the Guardian (http://www.guardian....-published-data) claims the Met Office will be making all its Public Weather Service data free to use from this week. Will Netweather be using this data?

It depends on what the data is really. We won't be mirroring the MetO forecasts for instance, but until the MetO themselves are sure of what is happening we can't say what data would be useful to us.

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

Cold Comfort As Winter Deaths Fall

One of the coldest and harshest winters to hit Northern Ireland in memory failed to cause any rise in the levels of winters mortalities. Despite the cold weather, last winter (December 2010 - March 2011) there was in fact a fall in the number of deaths registered. There were 740 excess winter deaths in 2010/11, a decrease on the corresponding figure of 940 excess winter deaths in 2009/10. These figures are included in excess winter mortality statistics released today by the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA).While the older population face higher mortality rates anyway, this NISRA report indicates that excess winter mortality also hits the eldest the hardest.

The report also points to respiratory and circulatory diseases as having the greatest proportionate impact. Looking further back the impact of influenza on excess winter mortality is also a major feature - this is seen in statistics from 1999/2000 and 1989/1990 when the last two major influenza outbreaks happened in Northern Ireland. Dr David Marshall from NISRA said: "There were 740 excess winter deaths in 2010/11. "Although the winter of 2010/11 was particularly severe, the number of excess winter deaths fell compared to the previous winter. The largest number of excess winter deaths witnessed in recent years (1,830 deaths) coincided with an influenza epidemic in winter 1989/1990."

The statement added that the number of excess winter deaths is defined as the difference between the overall number of deaths which occurred in the winter months of December to March and the average number of deaths occurring in the preceding August to November, and the following April to July. In the winter period (December to March) of 2010/11 there were an extra 740 deaths in Northern Ireland, compared to the average for the non-winter periods (previous August to November and the following April to July). The corresponding figure for 2009/10 was 940 excess winter deaths.

Also, in winter 2010/11, two-thirds of excess winter deaths involved people aged 75 and over. Proportionately, excess winter deaths impacts hardest on people aged 85 and over and between 2009/10 and 2010/11 the excess winter mortality index decreased in all Health and Social Care Trusts except Belfast, which experienced a small increase. The South Eastern Trust had the highest excess winter mortality index last winter. The statement also said that circulatory diseases accounted for the largest number of excess winter deaths registered in 2010/11; however, respiratory causes had the highest excess winter mortality index (thus having the greatest proportionate impact) of all causes in 2010/11.

http://www.4ni.co.uk...s.asp?id=136064

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  • Location: Redbourn,Herts AL3. 122M ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Hot summers, Storms and epic cold snowy winters
  • Location: Redbourn,Herts AL3. 122M ASL

Oh well thats it, winter is cancelled...... :rofl:

Gritters ready for winter

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Thousands of tons of salt have been stockpiled to keep traffic moving on Kent's roads this winter.

Staff at depots on the Henwood Industrial Estate, Ashford, and at Stanford, near Hythe, are ready to swing into action when icy conditons strike.

Kent County Council has more than 20,000 tonnes of salt at eight depots and a fleet of more than 60 salting lorries.

Cllr Bryan Sweetland, cabinet member for highways, said: "The past two years have seen some of the harshest winter weather for three decades and we are well prepared for similar weather this year."

KCC salts about a third of the county's A and B roads and around 15% of other important parts of the network. It treats about half of the entire 5,000 mile road network.

Smaller vehicles can help clear roads not on main salting routes when an area is particularly badly hit.

Spencer Palmer, KCC's head of highway operations, said in addition to the salting lorries, 180 farmers have been provided with snow ploughs to keep key rural roads open.

In severe weather, crews will work round the clock.

Visit KCC's website for details of salting routes and other information about the council's winter service.

Monday, November 28 2011

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  • Location: Burntwood, Staffs
  • Location: Burntwood, Staffs

Pertinent reporting here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-15951722

I wonder if those hoping for the "Shades of 76 Summer" were happy that a vital element of our ecology was destroyed so long as they could enjoy their time in the beer garden?

Selfishness to the nth degree.

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

No weather today then??!!!! :nea:

More than 250 schools are expected to close or partially close in Devon, Torbay and Plymouth because of industrial action.

Hospitals and the Met Office in Exeter will be affected as public sector workers strike over pensions and pay. The Torpoint ferry, which takes cars between Devon and Cornwall has closed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...-devon-15930176

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  • Location: Caernarfon, North Wales
  • Weather Preferences: extreme - anything but dull and dreary. The snowier the better.
  • Location: Caernarfon, North Wales

Pertinent reporting here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...cester-15951722

I wonder if those hoping for the "Shades of 76 Summer" were happy that a vital element of our ecology was destroyed so long as they could enjoy their time in the beer garden?

Selfishness to the nth degree.

Huh?

I'm sorry, but I cannot see any selfishness in your link. Have you linked to the wrong story, perchance?

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  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level
  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level

Pertinent reporting here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...cester-15951722

I wonder if those hoping for the "Shades of 76 Summer" were happy that a vital element of our ecology was destroyed so long as they could enjoy their time in the beer garden?

Selfishness to the nth degree.

More like making the most of what hand you are dealt? It makes no odds what people prefere as to what transpires.
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  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
  • Location: Bratislava, Slovakia

But the article clearly proves that having a cool summer is no guarantee that catchment areas will receive sufficient rainfall. Anyway, I blame the dry spring more than anything else.

Wanting a hot, dry summer is no more selfish than wanting a cold, wet summer. Both have negative side effects in different ways, but there's nothing wrong with making the most out of whatever weather comes your way. Not sitting out in a beer garden doesn't make a blind bit of difference to low river levels.

Better luck next time.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

DROUGHT CRISIS TO LAST FOR MORE THAN YEAR, SAY EXPERTS

THE driest 12 months on record has left Britain facing a drought we may not recover from until 2013, a report warns today.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/287042/Drought-crisis-to-last-for-more-than-year-say-experts

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  • Location: Burntwood, Staffs
  • Location: Burntwood, Staffs

"Not sitting out in a beer garden doesn't make a blind bit of difference to low river levels."

If you're not sitting in it due to prolonged rainfall it does.

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

It's about Tyne for England's first snow fall

ENGLAND'S first snow fell in the South Tyne Valley today as much of the rest of the country awoke to a crisp frosty morning.

But experts insist that the chances of a White Christmas to rival last year's big freeze remain slim.

It comes after the Met Office revealed that November has been the second warmest in the UK since records began more than a century ago. The average temperature was 8.7°C, just one degree shy of the 8.8°C set in 1994.

Helen Chivers, of the Met Office, said southerly winds from the continent had been blowing in warmer air and keeping away the colder systems from the Atlantic — helping the UK to be sunnier, drier and warmer than usual. "But we are not expecting there to be a big freeze at Christmas like there was last year. There will be some colder spells but also milder ones as well."

http://www.thesun.co...-snow-fall.html

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  • Location: Caernarfon, North Wales
  • Weather Preferences: extreme - anything but dull and dreary. The snowier the better.
  • Location: Caernarfon, North Wales

The average temperature was 8.7°C, just one degree shy of the 8.8°C set in 1994.

haha!

sure that's meant to read "nought point one".

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  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.
  • Location: Derbyshire Peak District South Pennines Middleton & Smerrill Tops 305m (1001ft) asl.

SHIVERING HALT TO MILD DAYS

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Local authorities and transport chiefs came under fire during last year’s big freeze

Saturday December 3,2011

By Nathan Rao

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BLIZZARDS and sub-zero temperatures will bring a shivering end to the recent mild weather as winter roars in with a vengeance next week.

The first real signs of widespread winter chill are due to arrive tomorrow with temperatures falling below freezing overnight into Monday.

England had its first snowfall of the winter yesterday as blizzards hit the Tyne Valley and north Pennines.

The heavy snow and strong winds lasted around an hour and forecasters warned the rest of the UK to brace itself for snow next week.

Temperatures fell to minus 2C in the North-east on Thursday night with most of the region waking up yesterday morning to frost and ice.

Forecasters say next week the mercury could sink to a teeth-chattering minus 7C in parts, with bitterly cold winds making it feel more like minus 12C. They warn heavy and widespread snow will fall in Scotland and the North with most of the UK at risk of a “moderate†dusting.

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Temperatures fell to minus 2C in the North-east on Thursday night

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Frost and ice threaten to make driving conditions treacherous and bring possible disruption on transport networks. The Met Office yesterday issued severe weather warnings for snow in Scotland for Monday and Tuesday and warned of “below average†temperatures.

Jonathan Powell, senior forecaster for Positive Weather Solutions, said: “Winter certainly is going to kick in next week. Then we are in for a bumpy ride with some widespread snow in Scotland and the chance of snowfall further south.

“It is going to be a real shock to the system in terms of temperatures, especially on Monday morning when there will be widespread frost and ice.â€

The warnings came as highways chiefs declared they were confident they were fully prepared to deal with a severe winter this year with extra salt stocks and new gritters on standby

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