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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.

    It will be interesting to see if the Government's IN campaigners  play by the rules? (whatever they may be)  I mean Westminster is just sooooo trustworthy and Cameron has to win this.   Maybe they will send THEIR referendum papers to SCOTLAND for counting?...........Thought not!   One thing for sure, the OUTERS better be on their toes!

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    And that ignorant, offensive, rant sums up exactly why the YES campaign failed  

    Good god. What a load of boarish spiteful bile from bad losers has been posted during the night. I actually dread to think how Scotland would be run if this is representative of how the yes vote behav

    I'm disappointed in the lack of grace shown by some across the net in accepting this No vote. A complete lack of any empathy and understanding as to why fellow Scots didn't vote Yes.   I personally

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  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W
  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W

    Blitzen, they will lie, cheat and promise free unicorns for their English breakfasts until they get the result they want.

    Oh! Sorry, they already did that to Scotland.

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Odd way to say it. Surely it's more a 'Great opportunity for major reform to bring the BBC into the 21st century, reflecting the new semi-autonomous Scotland, by making BBC Scotland largely independent and answerable to the Scottish people via their elected parliament'.

    Scottish government proposals on this make sense to me. Certainly more democratic than having the country next door control your state TV and threaten you with the gulags for not paying for it.

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  • Location: Fettercain/Edzell
  • Location: Fettercain/Edzell

    C'mon Escoscia, Ecosse and Scotland,

    Heard so much rubbish this afternoon on UK TV about  English politics.

    Can we scots be forward looking and open?

    Freed from stupid English goings on.

    Simples, I know.

     

     

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  • Location: Tullynessle/Inverurie
  • Weather Preferences: Cold and snowy or warm and dry
  • Location: Tullynessle/Inverurie
    18 hours ago, ciel said:

    C'mon Escoscia, Ecosse and Scotland,

    Heard so much rubbish this afternoon on UK TV about  English politics.

    Can we scots be forward looking and open?

    Freed from stupid English goings on.

    Simples, I know.

     

     

    Well despite my obvious interest in politics I avoided the TV news and politics programs yesterday, especially any Boris "who will he side with" coverage nonsense.  Are we really, as it currently looks, going to be subjected to 4 months of "Project Fear Stay" versus "Project Fear Leave"?

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    6 minutes ago, Ravelin said:

    Well despite my obvious interest in politics I avoided the TV news and politics programs yesterday, especially any Boris "who will he side with" coverage nonsense.  Are we really, as it currently looks, going to be subjected to 4 months of "Project Fear Stay" versus "Project Fear Leave"?

    We're going to be subjected to a 4 month massive orgy of British nationalism. A veritable festival of Union Jack and St. George's cross flag waving to the tunes of Land of Hope and Glory and Jerusalem.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
    5 minutes ago, scottish skier said:

    We're going to be subjected to a 4 month massive orgy of British nationalism. A veritable festival of Union Jack and St. George's cross flag waving to the tunes of Land of Hope and Glory and Jerusalem.

    I had LBC on last night; they even had people camped outside Boris's 'buffoonery', waiting for any tiny morsel of wisdom to percolate out...I can't recall the last time I heard the man utter anything of much note...

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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
    1 hour ago, scottish skier said:

    We're going to be subjected to a 4 month massive orgy of British nationalism. A veritable festival of Union Jack and St. George's cross flag waving to the tunes of Land of Hope and Glory and Jerusalem.

    There was me thinking that blood and soil, flag waving inward looking nationalism was all wrong. It's going to be a weird four months. 

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  • Location: St rads Dover
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  • Location: St rads Dover
    2 hours ago, Ravelin said:

    Well despite my obvious interest in politics I avoided the TV news and politics programs yesterday, especially any Boris "who will he side with" coverage nonsense.  Are we really, as it currently looks, going to be subjected to 4 months of "Project Fear Stay" versus "Project Fear Leave"?

    It looks that way, I'd prefer them, both sides to deal with real facts only, what's the chances of that though.

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    Is there not going to be some kind of purdah on discussing the EU referendum during the Scottish, Welsh and NI elections? My concern is that UKIP start to do better as EU no voters wish to start showing there preferences prior to the referendum to try and force momentum.

    For example, if you a Tory voter but support leaving the EU, why would support a pro Euro potential MSP in May?, particularly if you know the SNP are going to get another landslide no matter what you vote.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    59 minutes ago, mountain shadow said:

    Is there not going to be some kind of purdah on discussing the EU referendum during the Scottish, Welsh and NI elections? My concern is that UKIP start to do better as EU no voters wish to start showing there preferences prior to the referendum to try and force momentum.

    For example, if you a Tory voter but support leaving the EU, why would support a pro Euro potential MSP in May?, particularly if you know the SNP are going to get another landslide no matter what you vote.

    No reason to vote UKIP; referendum is secured. Anyway, would split the unionist vote even further. UKIP could eat up 5% of the total votes / more than 10% of the pro-UK votes and not get an MSP due to share cut-off.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Loads of stuff would cost more if Scotland goes for independence, from imported goods in shops, to travel abroad.

    Sorry, stays in the UK.

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    Pound falls against dollar, yen and euro as EU campaign hots up

    The value of the pound has plunged to a three-week low against the dollar, as the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union intensified.

    #BetterTogether

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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
    1 hour ago, scottish skier said:

    Loads of stuff would cost more if Scotland goes for independence, from imported goods in shops, to travel abroad.

    Sorry, stays in the UK.

    #BetterTogether

    I read that "Threat of Brexit causes pound to slump" article too. We had that back in 2014, then after the referendum the pound kept on slumping anyway!! 

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover
    17 minutes ago, CatchMyDrift said:

    I read that "Threat of Brexit causes pound to slump" article too. We had that back in 2014, then after the referendum the pound kept on slumping anyway!! 

     

    Exactly it's not the ref, but it's a good excuse to tell everyone though isn't it. It can't be their economy saving polices going wrong.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    So still no deal on new powers?

    I see the unelected peers are going ahead with scrutinising the Scotland bill even though it still remains dead in the water.

    Anyway, that's a year and 5 months and 'new powers delivered = 0'.

    #TheVow

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  • Location: glasgow
  • Weather Preferences: snowy winters hot summers
  • Location: glasgow
    10 hours ago, scottish skier said:

    Why George Galloway can't get elected in Scotland.

    This is all pretty entertaining.

    Honestly i despise that man with a passion. He is entitled to hold his view and be ridiculed for holding contradicting morals.

    Independance for the uk , independance for ireland but not for scotland.

    What is it with our country that we produce reptiles like this that put everyones interests before their own people.???

    Epitomises the labour party in scotland and their mythical international socialism. I am ashamed i once supported and voted for the likes of galloway and labour.

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
    10 hours ago, scottish skier said:

    Why George Galloway can't get elected in Scotland.

    This is all pretty entertaining.

    The man changes opinion like the wind. 

    I remember him in Dundee City square after the Torys winning their fourth term and him shouting along with the rest of us that Scotland united would never be defeated. 

    He doesn't dare show is face on the streets of Dundee anymore. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Daily Record, author of the Vow, has a moment of clarity.

    Still deadlock on the fiscal plan for more powers. Deadline was supposed to be today. However, the Tories are sticking to their goal of breaking the Smith Agreement with the aim of seeing Scotland's budget slashed.

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    But the debate effectively boils down to the following: The Tories want to cut Scotland’s budget. The SNP don’t want them to cut Scotland’s budget.

    You don’t need to be an economics genius to work out that isn’t going to go well for the Scottish Conservatives.

    Thank god we have a Scottish party in power. If we had a British party in Holyrood, they'd be happily signing off as damaging a deal for Scotland as possible.

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  • Location: St rads Dover
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    3 hours ago, balmaha said:

    Honestly i despise that man with a passion. He is entitled to hold his view and be ridiculed for holding contradicting morals.

    Independance for the uk , independance for ireland but not for scotland.

    What is it with our country that we produce reptiles like this that put everyones interests before their own people.???

    Epitomises the labour party in scotland and their mythical international socialism. I am ashamed i once supported and voted for the likes of galloway and labour.

    George Galloway was expelled from the Labour party some time ago now, and as far as I'm awear Corbyn said no to him rejoining. I know that won't make a labour voter out of you or me for that mater. I think Corbyn himself and infact most of the Labour party, if not all, I haven't looked into it tbh, are Pro EU, although as  understand it corbyn is Pro Irish independence. Seems complicated.

    Sorry don't know why my font has changed, was typing and didn't do anything to change it at all.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    6 minutes ago, alexisj9 said:

    George Galloway was expelled from the Labour party some time ago now, and as far as I'm awear Corbyn said no to him rejoining. I know that won't make a labour voter out of you or me for that mater. I think Corbyn himself and infact most of the Labour party, if not all, I haven't looked into it tbh, are Pro EU, although as  understand it corbyn is Pro Irish independence. Seems complicated.

    Corbyn's like Galloway; pro independence for everywhere (Ireland / N. Ireland, Tibet, Palestine..., Britain to an extent as he's somewhat Eurosceptic) except Scotland.

    In a way Corbyn is worse than Galloway as at least Galloway is from Scotland (so you could say fair enough if he's a unionist). Corbyn wants his England (even Tory England) to rule Scotland by contrast, which makes him something of an expansionist imperialist.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Interesting. BBC is doing it's best 'North Sea is finished' guff again today.

    Yet even arch BetterTogether supporter Sir Ian Wood is telling them to shut it.

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    Sir Ian Wood: It’s completely wrong to say North Sea is finished

    Oil industry veteran Sir Ian Wood has said it is completely wrong to think that the North Sea oil industry is finished and gave a guarantee that it will return to strong activity within the next five years.

    Perfect timing for independence really. Prices may well be $150 a barrel. A real bonus for Scotland on top of an economy as strong as the UK's without oil.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Well, Dave and George finally jump in at the last minute and give in to Sturgeon and Swinney, agreeing a fair fiscal deal on devo nano minus. At least for the next parliament.

    Well, the powers may be well away from the Devo Max Scotland voted for in May, but Scotland just got more independent and that's good. Who knows, maybe we'll go the Australia / NZ way in time.

    Next up the BBC and a Scottish 6 o'clock news / bye bye London news. This is just in the planning stage, but I loved the fact it had the Daily Mail in frothing spasms today.

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