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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Nationalists are so 'vile and abusive'.:)

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    Emma Thompson branded 'overpaid leftie luvvie' after pro-EU comments

    ...Tory MP Stewart Jackson dismissed Thompson's comments, branding her an "overpaid, leftie luvvie" while fellow Conservative Eurosceptic Steve Baker accused her of "doing our country down".

    What's utterly hilarious is the number of people who were rapidly anti-Independence, now talking about the importance of 'taking back our sovereignty'... 'making our own laws'...'all that money we have to cough up to be in the union' etc without a hint of irony.

    The EUref going to be a glorious orgy of massive hypocrisy from the most ardent UK unionists.

    If it wasn't for that it would be so dull as I couldn't care less if England wants out of the EU; I'd wish them all best with their wee iref. As long as Scotland decides the matter alone, I'm happy.

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    And that ignorant, offensive, rant sums up exactly why the YES campaign failed  

    Good god. What a load of boarish spiteful bile from bad losers has been posted during the night. I actually dread to think how Scotland would be run if this is representative of how the yes vote behav

    I'm disappointed in the lack of grace shown by some across the net in accepting this No vote. A complete lack of any empathy and understanding as to why fellow Scots didn't vote Yes.   I personally

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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold. Enjoy all extremes though.
  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.

    Yet again, David Cameron pulls in his 'Buddy'!    Ring any bells?  You know, when Cameron got Obama to speak and interfere in the Scottish Referendum before the vote went ahead?  

    " Britain is talking about banning another prominent American, with a petition to ban Barack Obama from speaking before the British Parliament.

    Apparently the  point of the ban concerns President Obama’s attempts to convince the British people to vote to remain in the European Union. Obama opposes the growing desire of many Britons to exit the EU (a movement being called the “Brexit”) and his attempts to intervene in the vote to quit the EU has engendered much vitriol in England.

    According to Daily Caller, More than 7,500 people have signed the petition to have Parliament consider the Obama ban. The signatures are, thus far, still 2,500 short of the number that would force Parliament to respond.

     

    I hope they get enough signatures to enable this to be debated,  hopefully  forcing Cameron for once to stand on his own two feet!   He's currently trying to make his  bed, let him bloody lie in it if it goes against him!   (all the better for us if it does!)

    Obama needs to stick to cutting his own grass instead of everyone elses!

     

     

     

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    In a way I'd love to see Scotland remain within the Union. That's not because I see you as a 'minor partner' but because some of us will be bereft without your input. Some of us welcome your contribution to our 'democracy'...:D

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  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W
  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W

    Unfortunately Ed, I think we have passed the point of no return. Hands buggering off on holiday at a critical point in Treasury negotiations with the SG is contemptible. The SG has bent over backwards to accommodate and reach agreement only to be told that Hands will return only if the SG roll over is a direct insult to all Scotland.

    This is not grievance,  it is about common decency.

    I want out of this abusive relationship ASAP.

     

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  • Location: Tullynessle/Inverurie
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  • Location: Tullynessle/Inverurie
    12 hours ago, Ed Stone said:

    In a way I'd love to see Scotland remain within the Union. That's not because I see you as a 'minor partner' but because some of us will be bereft without your input. Some of us welcome your contribution to our 'democracy'...:D

    You could always move to Scotland, after all, we are welcoming to 'immigrants'. We'd also consider allowing your beloved Spurs to swap places with Rangers/Celtic (assuming the former manages to get promoted this year) so that you can enjoy the likelihood of them winning the 'Scottish Premiership' every year.

    P.S. We also get snow occasionally up here too, but don't tell anyone.

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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
    20 hours ago, scottish skier said:

    Nationalists are so 'vile and abusive'.:)

    What's utterly hilarious is the number of people who were rapidly anti-Independence, now talking about the importance of 'taking back our sovereignty'... 'making our own laws'...'all that money we have to cough up to be in the union' etc without a hint of irony.

    The EUref going to be a glorious orgy of massive hypocrisy from the most ardent UK unionists.

    If it wasn't for that it would be so dull as I couldn't care less if England wants out of the EU; I'd wish them all best with their wee iref. As long as Scotland decides the matter alone, I'm happy.

    Nationalism is ok if it's red, white and blue and speaks English (i.e. UK and USA). All other nationalism, even Scotland's puny attempts at it, are the devil's work. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    This all looks good. It would be great to listen to the news and not hear 'NHS junior doctors are now on strike' and think, 'hey wait, no they're not...oh, it's England they're talking about again'. I mean which other country in the world is forced to pay for news about the country next door?

    Not like it's going to happen though. Westminster giving up control of British State TV (which you can be sent to the gulags as state punishment for not paying for) in Scotland? LOL. Aye right.

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    Scottish government publishes BBC Scotland proposals

    The Scottish government has published its proposals for strengthening BBC Scotland.

    It said its suggestions would help the BBC deliver "better, more representative content" for Scottish audiences.

    They included calls for a decentralised BBC structure, with BBC Scotland given greater control over budgets and commissioning.

    It also proposes a new Scottish-focused version of the Six O'clock News.

    And it has called for the creation of a new Scottish TV and radio channel.

    The paper also called for a semi-autonomous Scottish board to be created to hold BBC Scotland to account. The board would itself be accountable to the Scottish Parliament.

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Latest Survation, as per MORI, suggests SNP holding steady or even on the up.

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/sumptuous-survation-survey-suggests-snp.html

    Constituency ballot :

    SNP 53% (+1)
    Labour 22% (+1)
    Conservatives 16% (n/c)
    Liberal Democrats 6% (-1)

    I think the unionist parties + press need to shout 'SNP = Bad / SNP = Nazis, Scotland  = wee poor and stupid' louder if they are to make any headway before May's election.

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    No Tory surge there.  I'm glad about that. 

    Whilst the SNP will walk it, I was worried the universal  pro Union media would be all over a Tory revival.

    6 0/0 Skippers though in the Regional !

    Can't be right. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Speaks for itself.

    For Sturgeon, the results were:

    To what extent do you think favourably or unfavourably towards the following political figures? Nicola Sturgeon

    53.3% Favourable

    16.1% Neither favourable nor unfavourable

    28.0% Unfavourable

     

    Cameron:

    22.4% Favourable

    17.5% Neither favourable nor unfavourable

    57.9% Unfavourable

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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold. Enjoy all extremes though.
  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.

    Just about choked when I listened to Cameron talking to jounalists today before the final EU negotiations:  " I will not sign an agreement that does not give us what we want"  Oh,.... good for him,.....  then perhaps he'll understand where Nicola Sturgeon was coming from when she said  she will not sign the Scotland Bill if it doesn't give us what we want!

    (Probably where he pinched it from!)

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    SNP have gained a local council seat in the Oban North and Lorn by-election.

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/snps-spectacular-by-election-gain-is.html

    EDIT. I understand Kieron Green INDEPENDENT stood for Labour previously, but decided against that this time. I wonder why.

    Anyway, SNP made strong gains and SNP+Green on 54% of first preferences; good for the area where Tory vote is quite strong.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

     

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    There could be a £3.8 billion hole in UK trade finances if it wasn’t for whisky

    The UK’s trade deficit would be 11% bigger than it currently is without Scotland’s national drink, the Scotch Whisky Association (SWA) said yesterday.

    SWA said Britain’s economy would be £3.8billion worse off if there was no whisky to help balance the books.

    The industry body also said whisky was the UK’s biggest net contributor in the trading of goods

    Chief executive David Frost added: “These figures re-emphasise how significant the Scotch whisky industry is to the Scottish and wider UK economy, adding more than £5billion of value and supporting around 40,000 jobs.

    #toopoor

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  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W
  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W

    No deal on Fiscal Framework!

    On tablet and can't post linky but it has been reported on BBC website (News -  Scotland).

    What next I wonder?

    Edit, talks to continue over the weekend.

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Another leaves the sinking ship.

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    Glasgow Labour councillor defects to the SNP

    Glasgow Labour councillor Russell Robertson has defected to The SNP - two months after revealing that he supports Scottish independence.

    The official announcement will be made today at an event in Glasgow for activists, which Nicola Sturgeon will attend.

     

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  • Location: Highland Scotland
  • Location: Highland Scotland

     

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    Mr Farage unveiled former Respect MP George Galloway as a "special guest" at the rally, describing him as a "towering figure on the left of British politics".

     

    So Galloway's international solidarity, internationalism and socialism stop at the white cliffs of dover! Just like the likes of Effie Deans, their true colours shine through in the face of the EU referendum - they are not internationalists, they don't believe half of what they said during the Indy Ref, no they are red white and blue Britnats. It's this British Nationalism good, Scottish Nationhood bad thing again. What's more remarkable about George Galloway though is this is the man who called the British Army an occupying force in Scotland. So if Galloway talks about principles, can anyone be in any doubt that he has none? 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

     

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    “My starting point is simple. I believe that the decisions which govern all our lives, the laws we must all obey and the taxes we must all pay should be decided by people we choose and who we can throw out if we want change.

    If power is to be used wisely, if we are to avoid corruption and complacency in high office, then the public must have the right to change laws and Governments at election time.

    But our membership of the* Union prevents us being able to change huge swathes of law and stops us being able to choose who makes critical decisions which affect all our lives. Laws which govern citizens in this country are decided by politicians from other nations who we never elected and can’t throw out.

    The ability to choose who governs us, and the freedom to change laws we do not like, were secured for us in the past by radicals and liberals who took power from unaccountable elites and placed it in the hands of the people.

    But by leaving* we can take control. Indeed we can show the rest of Europe the way to flourish. Instead of grumbling and complaining about the things we can’t change and growing resentful and bitter, we can shape an optimistic, forward-looking and genuinely internationalist alternative.

    We can show leadership. Like the Americans who declared their independence and never looked back, we can become an exemplar of what an inclusive, open and innovative democracy can achieve. 

    Are we really too small, too weak and too powerless to make a success of self-rule? This chance may never come again in our lifetimes, which is why I will be true to my principles and take the opportunity* to leave* and embrace a better future.”

    #Ironyoverload

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    It's terrible how the referendum has divided people in Britain. Turned Tory against Tory, Labour against Labour, husband against wife, neighbour against neighour.

    Personally, the 'Leave' campaign says its civic nationalism, but can we be sure it's not ethnic? I mean if you support independence its because you are anti-European people right?

    :)

    #June23rd

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35621079

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    2 hours ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Heavy snow on now.  They don't get that south of Gretna :yahoo:

    Aye, Scotland produces 2/3 of the UK's snow on just 8% of the population.

    #VoteYes

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Scotland and the devolved nations treated with contempt once more.

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    Nicola Sturgeon says EU referendum in June would be a mistake

    First minister warns David Cameron that choosing 23 June would show disrespect to Scots, because of Holyrood elections

     

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    EU referendum: Cameron sets June date for UK vote

    Still, outside chance we'll be independent within a year.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    8 minutes ago, doctormog said:

    Independent of the EU? ;)

    Ha ha. Highly unlikely that.

    Holyrood would never pass that into Scots law if the Scots electorate have voted 'Remain'. Scotland can only leave the EU legally (that's what the EU is; the following of EU law) via Holyrood, and EU law is intimately interwoven into the devolution settlement. Even though the constitution is 'theoretically' not devolved, the nuts and bolts are done in Edinburgh and, as per the Scottish iref, we know sovereignty ultimately lies with the Scottish people. With all main parties in Holyrood backing the EU, including the Scottish Tories, it's just not going to happen. Would electorally destroy parties if they rejected the democratic vote of the electorate.

    You'd not be able to challenge in the court of Session either; if Scots had clearly voted remain, democracy would win. Your only way out is another referendum in Scotland really, asking whether it wants independence or to leave the EU and stay in the UK. As citizenship is involved, ECHR would also most likely act to protect Scottish citizens right to remain European citizens and not have that stripped from them / their independent legal jurisdiction country against their will.

    Anyway, I'm not getting excited as I expect a UK-wide narrow No. After that, Tory meltdown and split as happened to Labour and the SDP when the latter fell out over Europe.

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  • Weather Preferences: where's my vote?
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    1 hour ago, scottish skier said:

    Ha ha. Highly unlikely that.

    Holyrood would never pass that into Scots law if the Scots electorate have voted 'Remain'. Scotland can only leave the EU legally (that's what the EU is; the following of EU law) via Holyrood, and EU law is intimately interwoven into the devolution settlement. Even though the constitution is 'theoretically' not devolved, the nuts and bolts are done in Edinburgh and, as per the Scottish iref, we know sovereignty ultimately lies with the Scottish people. With all main parties in Holyrood backing the EU, including the Scottish Tories, it's just not going to happen. Would electorally destroy parties if they rejected the democratic vote of the electorate.

    You'd not be able to challenge in the court of Session either; if Scots had clearly voted remain, democracy would win. Your only way out is another referendum in Scotland really, asking whether it wants independence or to leave the EU and stay in the UK. As citizenship is involved, ECHR would also most likely act to protect Scottish citizens right to remain European citizens and not have that stripped from them / their independent legal jurisdiction country against their will.

    Anyway, I'm not getting excited as I expect a UK-wide narrow No. After that, Tory meltdown and split as happened to Labour and the SDP when the latter fell out over Europe.

    I really really hope your predicted outcome - last paragraph - comes true.  Unfortunately the scum are too canny for that.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    14 minutes ago, Hairy Celt said:

    I really really hope your predicted outcome - last paragraph - comes true.  Unfortunately the scum are too canny for that.

    We'll see.

    As I've posted before, when the left fight amongst themselves, they do so with oversized comical boxing gloves and people watch on bemused and slightly embarrassed by the spectacle.

    When the right fights, it's venomous, no holds barred, baseball bat with nails through it and fingernails gouging eyes stuff. Really nasty and ugly.

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