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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Hmmm.

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    Kezia Dugdale says Corbyn factor helping "fighting fit" Labour win voters back from SNP

    THE leader of Scottish Labour has claimed that her party is "fighting fit" and that Jeremy Corbyn is helping to win back voters from the SNP.

     

     

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    And that ignorant, offensive, rant sums up exactly why the YES campaign failed  

    Good god. What a load of boarish spiteful bile from bad losers has been posted during the night. I actually dread to think how Scotland would be run if this is representative of how the yes vote behav

    I'm disappointed in the lack of grace shown by some across the net in accepting this No vote. A complete lack of any empathy and understanding as to why fellow Scots didn't vote Yes.   I personally

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    8 minutes ago, mountain shadow said:

    Kezia is a buffoon.

    If the Tories get a larger share of the vote in May,  will she resign? 

    No, because Scottish Labour's grasp of arithmetic is so poor they'll still claim they won.

    And in other news, those lazy subsidy junkie Jocks have been in the news again....

    Aberdeen and Edinburgh are among the top 10 UK cities for their high wages and low welfare payments ratio, according to a report from a think tank.

    The Centre for Cities said the Granite City and the Scottish capital were both doing well because of high-skilled jobs.

    But it warned that competitive salaries were also driving up housing costs.

    No Scottish cities were in the top 10 for "low-wage, high-welfare" economies.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35395876

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Another classic example of why British newspapers are pretty much useless as sources of information, notably when it comes to Scotland.

    For the Telegraph, I now assume every article is simply a lie and start from there.

    And why do people want to be part of a state where the mainstream press is openly xenophobic towards them / their country?

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    “English tourists are cancelling holidays to Scotland because they fear ‘ill feeling’ towards them after the referendum, it emerged today.

    Travel firms north of the border say holiday-makers have contacted them saying they don’t want to go to Scotland whatever the result of the vote.”

    Yet:

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    “The number of tourist visits to Scotland from Britain has increased by 9%, a survey has suggested.

    The Great Britain Tourism Survey indicates that the figure rose to about 12.9 million in the year to the end of September 2015.

    It also suggests that expenditure on domestic tourism visits – visitors from Britain staying for at least one night – rose by 14% to more than £3.2bn.”

    Courtesy of Wings.

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/imagine-our-surprise/

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Also.

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    http://www.itv.com/news/2016-01-25/revealed-secret-labour-report-calls-on-party-to-atone-for-its-past/

    ...As for SNP converts [from Labour], they saw Labour as "an incompetent version of the Tories".

    The report contrasts how voters in Scotland "adored" Nicola Sturgeon - who they see as "different from all other politicians", as "someone they can relate to, who they can understand, and who tells it like it is" - with "weak and bumbling" Ed Miliband.

    Ooch.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Fascinating discussion on the BBC's John Beattie show about how low oil prices are really good for Scotland overall. All sides in agreement, including pro- and anti-independence (reluctantly in the end for the latter).

    Low oil prices are bad if your economy is dependent on them; like say Saudi Arabia. Scotland's isn't of course; it's GVA is the same as the UK's without oil revenues. Oil is, as independence supporters have always pointed out, a bonus that varies in size depending on the cyclical oil price.

    Scotland is like Norway which only spends a fraction of its oil revenues to run things and banks the rest as it's bonus revenue. The difference in Scotland is that its oil revenues are not banked, but happily spent by Westminster on shiny stuff for the SE of England, overseas military jollies, nuclear weapons and whatnot.

    This means when the downturn comes around, there are no broad shoulders there to help; hence all the job losses in the NE.

    Programme available online:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06wcj2s

    Or the relevant section from Wings:

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/truth-and-wrongs/

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    That's why Scotland has greater employment, just about equal unemployment, and better average wages than the UK, even though oil and gas is at the rock bottom of a cyclic downturn.

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    4 hours ago, Ravelin said:

    No, because Scottish Labour's grasp of arithmetic is so poor they'll still claim they won.

    And in other news, those lazy subsidy junkie Jocks have been in the news again....

    Aberdeen and Edinburgh are among the top 10 UK cities for their high wages and low welfare payments ratio, according to a report from a think tank.

    The Centre for Cities said the Granite City and the Scottish capital were both doing well because of high-skilled jobs.

    But it warned that competitive salaries were also driving up housing costs.

    No Scottish cities were in the top 10 for "low-wage, high-welfare" economies.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35395876

    And still these FACTS will be ignored by the English media, and all those who argued (and will no doubt continue to argue) that Scotland is dependent on Westminster for 'hand outs' and therefore would be financially ruined by independence. It continues to stagger me that no-one in the No camp seems to have cottoned onto the fact that there can be only one reason why Westminster Tories are so desperate to maintain the union - there MUST be a financial advantage to maintaining it. After all, there's certainly no political benefit, so it's got to be money. After all, what else do Westminster Tories care about ??? (as has been amply illustrated by the last ten months................)

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Aye. From Channel 4 fact check in 2014 for example.

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    Raving scotnats that they are.

    Scottish GDP per capita is 98.6% of the UKs without any oil revenues. 

    Scotland's oil is a bonus just like Norway's is for the same but different reasons. Norway saw it as a bonus so kept it out of normal spending to ensure their economy did not become too dependent on oil and to keep it for a rainy day. Westminster nicked and spent all Scotland's oil revenues meaning Scotland had to develop a normal economy like oil wasn't there.

    If Scotland had been independent and decided to not be careful with oil, instead just giving loads of folk public service non-jobs like the Saudis did using oil money, then it could have become dependent on oil.

    That's unlikely to have happened however as Scotland is more just left of centre like Norway. So, like Norway, would have likely done the same thing. It's Tories that don't save for a rainy day, hence Scotland's oil revenues down the pan for decades.

    Tories love spending other people's money. That's why they are so against Scottish indy / devo max.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Yougov survey of small businesses managers. 

    Scotland sample:

    Based on what you know, do you think Britain should remain in the EU or leave?

    67% Remain

    24% Leave

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

     

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    Scottish schools to benefit from £230m building boost

    The Scottish government has confirmed that £230m will be used to build or refurbish 19 schools.
    It represents the final phrase of the £1.8bn Schools for the Future programme.
    Ministers said more than 6,500 pupils will benefit from the plans, which should be completed by March 2020.

    Also, I see the Tories are going to offer tax* cuts as the centrepiece of their May 16 manifesto pledge.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35399643

    That's worked well since the 1950's for getting Scots to vote Tory hasn't it.

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    *Not sure how they are going to cut taxes without any tax powers. London Tories are blocking even the pitiful watered-down Smith powers by trying to ensure Scotland is economically damaged by them through the fiscal agreement.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35394894

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Scottish elections are about Scotland right?

    Only for Scottish parties legally registered in Scotland.

    For English parties not registered in Scotland, such as Labour or the Tories, they're mainly about winning England. Scotland does't matter, it's about getting a foot in on the road to the English (EVEL) parliament.

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    Jeremy Corbyn to visit Scotland as Labour promises 'upbeat' Holyrood election campaign

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn and two other high ranking members of his Westminster team are to visit Scotland over the next few weeks, as the party seeks to persuade voters that it is a credible alternative to the SNP.

    Otherwise, what on earth is Corybn doing visiting to campaign for an election he isn't standing in? Surely he should be earning his taxpayer funded pay looking after his London constituents? 

    I mean I thought 'Scottish' Labour were an 'autonomous party' or is Jeremy up to tell Kezia what to do? After all, it is English Labour's money she'll be spending.

    I mind when Ed did this ahead of 2011. That went well huh.

    They never learn and it seems never will because England/Britain is always more important than Scotland to them. Scotland just isn't important. Why can so many North British ((c) Broon) not see that!

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Well, 1.33 years on from the referendum and counting.

    New 'VOW(TM)' powers delivered = 0

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    Outrage as SNP MP allowed to operate on terminally I'll patients!

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-scum-at-the-bottom-of-the-sewer/

    I wonder how the patients and thier families feel about thier lives being saved by a highly trained and experienced surgeon? I'm sure they are incandescent with rage.  

    Of course, MPs should never have second jobs, not unless it's some non-exec directors position at a bank, or other multinational. That'd be OK wouldn't it? 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
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    Working for a university I completely agree.

    Westminster is seriously harming the Scottish economy with many of its policies; this is just another obvious case.

    And the stupid thing is it's not even a 'policy is actually good for England but bad for Scotland' thing, it's simply an attempt to win over swivel-eyed loon voters by attacking those 'bunches of migrants'* ((c) David Cameron).

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    Home Office urged to act following 'stark' brain drain warning over student visas

    THE UK Government should act following a "stark warning" from a top university that its immigration policies are harming the Scottish economy, the SNP international development minister has said.

    Humza Yousaf said evidence submitted to a Holyrood committee by the University of Edinburgh illustrated the need to reintroduce an automatic right to work for a limited period for graduates from non-EU countries.

    The university, which is ranked among the top 25 in the world, warned that the repeal of a post study work visa in 2012 was leading to a "brain drain" in Scotland and was damaging education, business and society.

    It would perfectly simple to issue visas valid in the legal jurisdiction of Scotland alone.

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    *Get him a little worked up and the mask does slip. The liberal, moderate conservative thing is just a charade; you see his real character appear when he starts to lose his cool and it's very unpleasant.

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    4 hours ago, Ravelin said:

    Outrage as SNP MP allowed to operate on terminally I'll patients!

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-scum-at-the-bottom-of-the-sewer/

    I wonder how the patients and thier families feel about thier lives being saved by a highly trained and experienced surgeon? I'm sure they are incandescent with rage.  

    Of course, MPs should never have second jobs, not unless it's some non-exec directors position at a bank, or other multinational. That'd be OK wouldn't it? 

    Not sure if anyone at the Mail, or elsewhere for that matter, actually believes that this hatchet job is anything other than a click bait hate fest.

     

    The rag has overstepped itself this time and it will backfire in spectacular fashion. By all accounts she is a great surgeon and has worked as a volunteer in Gaza. A very decent human being . Common space has a good article covering her NHS and other work with tributes.

     

    https://www.commonspace.scot/articles/3353/breast-surgeon-philipa-whitford-mp-gave-up-her-christmas-holidays-for-nhs-support

     

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    This could turn out to be a fair sized field. Even at today's temporarily low prices, that's a cool $3.3 billion. Of course Total are thinking long term so readily $100-150 billion.

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    Total North Sea find could hold up to 100million barrels of oil

    Total E&P UK has confirmed a new North Sea exploration bid.

    The French company said it will start drilling of the Sween exploration well in the third quarter of this year.

     

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    Imagine if Scotland was independent and had a state owned oil company where profits were used for the benefit of the citizens rather than shareholders and City spivs.

    Does my head in it really does.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Now:

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    David Cameron announces £20m funding package for oil sector

    e.g. Then, just the tip of the iceberg of course...

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    You take e.g. 10 billion, you return e.g. 0.2% of that.

    How the Tories see Scotland / its industry that has bailed the failed UK out on so many occasions:

    And they'll do the same with the min 50% that remains; the most valuable 50% now the era of cheap oil is over.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Just to compound UKIP's woes north of the border.

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    UKIP's Scottish chairman stands down amid indecent phone call accusations

    The chairman of Ukip in Scotland has stepped down after appearing in court accused of making indecent phone calls.

    The party confirmed Arthur Misty Thackeray had temporarily stood down from the post but a spokesman said it would be inappropriate to comment further.

    Mr Thackeray, 55, appeared in private at Glasgow Sheriff Court last week, the Crown Office confirmed.

    He made no plea or declaration when he faced six charges under section 7(1) of the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009 and was bailed. The case was continued for further examination.

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Boot on the other foot now.

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    EU chief warns of dilemma for Scotland

    Kristalina Georgieva said the UK would lose more than it would gain by leaving the EU

    A top EU official has said Scotland should not have to choose between membership of the UK and the EU.

    European Commission vice president Kristalina Georgieva said "every effort" was being made to avoid this scenario.

    There's little doubt a Brexit would lead to seamless continuation of EU membership for an independent Scotland. It would then be up to Scots long term whether to keep things that way.

    Polls suggest no Brexit though. At least for now.

    Certainly, Scots that support independence, even if they are against the EU, should vote 'Remain' in a UK EUref. Scotland can't truly decide on it's position within the EU while it remains in the UK. A 'leave' vote in Scotland in a UK EUref would be sold by the UK media / politicians as Scotland saying it backed staying in the UK again.

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL

    We know the NHS in Scotland is outperforming the rest of the UK, and yet we have contradictory lazy journalism again:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35446021

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    The numbers arriving in accident and emergency units have surged.

    Calls to the NHS 111 helpline have been a lot higher than the same time last year. Yet the weather has not been unusual for winter and norovirus and flu numbers are nothing out of the ordinary.

    So what's going on? Nobody, it seems, has a very clear answer.

    The weekly NHS England figures (ending 24 January) reveal an 8% year-on-year increase in attendances at major A&E units.

    Calls to 111 were 20% higher than the same week last year.

    A Welsh government spokesman said there had been a sharp rise in the number of people seeking treatment in emergency departments.

    It seems to have been a similar picture in Scotland, though with some improvement on last winter according to its government.

     

     

    How can that statement be true in the context of that article?  Really odd...

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    There's not going to be any real new powers at all is there. Of course not. Sad that people maybe believed that might happen.

    The vow was of course just all a big lie. There will be no devo max, no federalism... just more direct English Tory rule.

    Anything offered was always going to be a trap to try and hurt Scotland because Scotland must never, ever do well economically lest it be tempted by independence.

    The cold hard fact is this:

    Scotland can never be allowed to prosper within the UK. It can maybe do ok, but can never prosper to the extent it might stand out as a good example. Because that might lead to independence. Westminster will never allow that.

    There's no way out of this but independence.

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    Iain Macwhirter: Detriment in fiscal framework beyond our ken

    You either have power over just spending largely, with a block grant (as we have now), or you have full powers of tax and spend (as up to 7 in 10 want), either under indy or donating a sum to the federal account to deal with federal matters. Anything else doesn't work and is going to be damaging.

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    I'm not even going to go into the Libs and Lab proposing to increase tax on the low paid while leaving the wealthy largely alone today. Chancers the lot of them. First they back Westminster welfare cuts / austerity - even actively campaign for that - then they propose increasing taxes on the poorest while not increasing taxes on the wealthy proportionately. They don't give a s***e about equality, jobs, healthcare etc, all they care about stopping a Scottish party majority in Holyrood, even if that means subjecting a powerless Scotland to decades of English Tory rule.

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    SS - Scotland has as much chance of its independence as the entire UK has of having a fair and representative voting system. stained glass window all!

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