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    My dvd box set of The Bridge has arrived today and I'm looking forward to some long evenings of watching bridge-related criminality.

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    And that ignorant, offensive, rant sums up exactly why the YES campaign failed  

    Good god. What a load of boarish spiteful bile from bad losers has been posted during the night. I actually dread to think how Scotland would be run if this is representative of how the yes vote behav

    I'm disappointed in the lack of grace shown by some across the net in accepting this No vote. A complete lack of any empathy and understanding as to why fellow Scots didn't vote Yes.   I personally

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Good stuff.

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-35160271

    Renewables largest electricity generator in Scotland in 2014

    Green energy projects are now the largest generator of electricity in Scotland, according to new figures.

    Department of Energy and Climate Change statistics showed almost half (49.7%) of Scotland's electricity demand came from renewable sources in 2014.

    Scotland exported 23.7% of what it generated.

     

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    2 hours ago, scottish skier said:

    Good stuff.

     

    Much of it is wind though so apparently doesn't count.  There's a rumour that Dounreay will have another power station within a few years - not sure how they'll get it through planning but a few people are pretty convinced of it.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    3 hours ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Much of it is wind though so apparently doesn't count.  There's a rumour that Dounreay will have another power station within a few years - not sure how they'll get it through planning but a few people are pretty convinced of it.

    Just going to pillory this post. 

    Pillory! Pillory! Pillory!

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    Out of interest, WhoTF thinks 'shafted' Dounreay is up for a re-run? Tell me you've not been drinking in the Royal HC? :D

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    Do you think I'd make this up for the fun of it?  You really haven't a clue, have you?

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    16 minutes ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Do you think I'd make this up for the fun of it?  You really haven't a clue, have you?

    No, my question was genuine. I have a rough idea what your work is from your weather posts, so yeah.

    I've never insulted you HC. I'm kinda disappointed in your post as a result.

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  • Location: Highland Scotland
  • Location: Highland Scotland

    Only way would be to abolish current planning laws and declare planning as a reserved matter to a department other than the Scotland Office. The council and Scottish Government could still use other powers to frustrate it - put tolls on roads for traffic involved in nuclear fission power plant construction etc. 

    If HM government think they can build a new nuclear power station in Highland Scotland, they will be sent homeward to think again. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Well, done a lot of searching and can't find anything relating to the possibility of a new nuclear plant at Dounreay.

    Dounreay of course was never built as a commercial power plant, but as a 'risky' test reactor centre. Power from it was just a by-product for that.

    It was too remote a location (blowing up / irradiating Scots was ok as long as the rest of the UK didn't suffer) for a commercial plant. A much more obvious location for a new plant would be Torness or Hunterston, i.e. where existing, operation plants are and close to where the power is needed.

    Anyway, I expect I may be pilloried for being clueless, but I'm genuinely open if there is actually some evidence re Dounreay.

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  • Location: Inbhir Nis / Inverness - 636 ft asl
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  • Location: Inbhir Nis / Inverness - 636 ft asl
    14 hours ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Do you think I'd make this up for the fun of it?  You really haven't a clue, have you?

    I don't think he meant anything mean by it HC. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    I was actually being tongue in cheek as HC had just posted a comment in another SD thread saying he gets pilloried in the Scottish Politics thread.

    https://forum.netweather.tv/topic/84030-migrant-crisis/?page=28#comment-3306146

    Felt I needed to do my duty as a vile cybernat and do some immediate pillorying.

    The Royal is a pub in Cromarty which I used to love having lunch with my Grandad in when young; the kind of place where you hear 'rumours' from those propping up the bar.

    Anyway, if someone is secretly planning a new nuke station at the glowing in the dark mess which is Dounreay, it's not the dastardly SNP. Jeez, if a lowly canvasser in Auchtermuchty even just suggested the idea as a joke after too many beers one night it would be headline news for months.

    "SNP to Nuke Scotland: Secret Massive New Fukushima-Chernobyl Style Power Plant to be forced on local Residents Exclusive"

     

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  • Location: NH7256
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    That there's going to be an increasing gap between demand and supply is common knowledge. There's also a large specialist workforce in northern Caithness, who would likely welcome some job security.  The grid upgrades to take renewables output south are being designed or are already in construction, or built.  But then, I only talk to people in the industry, not the politicians of the next generation who will make the decisions in a few years time.

     

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    50 minutes ago, Hairy Celt said:

    That there's going to be an increasing gap between demand and supply is common knowledge. There's also a large specialist workforce in northern Caithness, who would likely welcome some job security.  The grid upgrades to take renewables output south are being designed or are already in construction, or built.  But then, I only talk to people in the industry, not the politicians of the next generation who will make the decisions in a few years time.

    Across the UK yes, but Scotland is a net exporter. Agreed on the specialist workforce; I understood decommissioning will be keeping them occupied for many years to come. There are likewise other plants going to need the same in the not too distant future.

    Also agreed on the power network. It makes perfect sense to suggest that new nuclear could be built at Dounraey. I'm just struggling to imagine what political circumstances would make that happen. It's been a struggle getting anywhere in England never mind Scotland.

    As energy is not devolved, any moves to build new nuclear plants would have to come from London. I expect that would go down like a lead balloon in Scotland, especially if Holyrood had to be overruled somehow; it controlling planning. Be a lot of investment down the drain if Scotland then voted for indy, especially if that investment had helped Scotland along the road to indy; something forced new nuclear would certainly do.

    It would be a brave party that backs new nuclear in Holyrood. I think it's only the Tories who back that.

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    Yeah the key is that energy is not devolved.  I could see some carrot being offered in return.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    1 hour ago, Hairy Celt said:

    Yeah the key is that energy is not devolved.  I could see some carrot being offered in return.

    I find it very hard to imagine the UK government investing billions in Scotland.

    The history is one of asset stripping. Particularly after we vote no to more self governance, such as the two decades following the overruled Yes vote in 1979.

    Bye bye Peterhead CCS for example.

    I find it equally hard to imagine energy being devolved to Scotland. Do that and you hand over the whole thing, from electrical power to oil & gas. Taxes, the works. No way Westminster will give up that 'subsidy' to the SE.

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    No-one wants a nuclear reactor on their doorstep - unless their jobs depend on it.  That's where Caithness already is.

    Equally, I see the political landscape has changed since Dounreay was first commissioned.

    We'll see....

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    14 minutes ago, Hairy Celt said:

    No-one wants a nuclear reactor on their doorstep - unless their jobs depend on it.  That's where Caithness already is.

    Equally, I see the political landscape has changed since Dounreay was first commissioned.

    We'll see....

    Out of interest, do you actually support new nuclear?

    I'm not specifically afraid of it in terms of safety. I just think its really messy waste-wise and eyewateringly expensive. Being a geologist originally, I'm particularly aware of the waste disposal problem (clays under London are the best site in the UK, but that's not going to happen).

    As I sit here listening to the wind picking up again looking at figures saying Scotland generated 50% from renewables in 2014, I'm struggling to justify the need for it.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    On a different topic.

    50% voted for the SNP in May. Polls have them as high as 58% for Holyrood.

    Is this kind of comment they way to win these people back? From Labour's Dan Hodges.

     

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    I think nuclear generation is nuts personally. The waste storage problem is there for eternity, or might as well be, we're poisoning places for generations so far in the future we can't imagine them - what will they think of us? 'Oh thanks for that!'  The cost of new installations is ridiculous on a per unit generated.  The mess for the operational phase is immense.  The risk of having a Chernobyl on your doorstep can't be ruled out, neither can some mad terrorist attack.

    BUT there are people starting to talk as if it's a possibility for Caithness. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Well known Scottish nationalist Simon Jenkins whinging in the pro-indy Guardian about London.
     

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    London must stop sucking up cash from the rest of Britain

    It’s obscene that the capital gets whatever it wants – more bridges, concert halls, railways – while the regions are starved of funding

     

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    1 hour ago, scottish skier said:

    Well known Scottish nationalist Simon Jenkins whinging in the pro-indy Guardian about London.
     

     

    He's probably not thinking mainly about Thurso though.  Would he even be able to say where Thurso is?

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    I see that Alex Salmond is being criticized, for leading a Scottish delegation to Iran...What with Junket George selling all our profitable industries off to the Chinese Communist Party, I'd have thought that a one-off trip to Iran was the least of our worries?

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  • Location: Tullynessle/Inverurie
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    2 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

    I see that Alex Salmond is being criticized, for leading a Scottish delegation to Iran...What with Junket George selling all our profitable industries off to the Chinese Communist Party, I'd have thought that a one-off trip to Iran was the least of our worries?

    Alex: Pssst, Hassan, want a couple of Trident Subs? Soon to be 'surplus to requirements'.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
    24 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

    I see that Alex Salmond is being criticized, for leading a Scottish delegation to Iran...

    He was actually ticked off for getting in there before the UK government, even though international business development / FDI is a devolved matter handled by the Scottish Government, Scottish Development International and Scottish Enterprise.

    What was particularly funny was Carmichael attacking him. As if Scotland wants a proven (in a court of law) liar on such delegations. Nobody could be sure he'd tell the truth about anything.

    Iran needs to spend a lot getting it's oil and gas back up and running after years of sanctions. A wee boost for the NE of Scotland oil and gas services sector (including my own work) in tough times. SNP right in there now that sanctions are being lifted. Bloody SNP trying to bring business to Scotland.

    UK Government rapes the Scottish oil and gas industry to spend on London (e.g. Guardian article just posted), Scottish government tries to help and promote it basically.

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