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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    How appropriate.

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-33612612

     

    David Mundell to open food bank in Dumfries
     
    Scotland's only Conservative MP is to open a food bank to help people struggling with welfare reform.
     
    Scottish Secretary David Mundell has previously questioned claims of a link between food bank use and his party's policy.
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    And that ignorant, offensive, rant sums up exactly why the YES campaign failed  

    Good god. What a load of boarish spiteful bile from bad losers has been posted during the night. I actually dread to think how Scotland would be run if this is representative of how the yes vote behav

    I'm disappointed in the lack of grace shown by some across the net in accepting this No vote. A complete lack of any empathy and understanding as to why fellow Scots didn't vote Yes.   I personally

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  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W
  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W

    How appropriate.

    That'll be fun!

    "Local poor Conservative receives food parcel from food bank while police man barricades to keep the destitute rabble kettled".

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    and can safely say that I really do not want that lifestyle permanently. Politeness and friendliness I can't get enough of, people acting as though you are above them I found deeply uncomfortable.

     

    Totally agree. Stayed in my fair share of 5 star hotels when travelling with work, mainly in the middle and far east; they're often used as venues for smaller, specialised oil and gas workshops / conferences.

     

    Would never choose such a place as a holiday destination; soulless. Agreed on the 'uncomfortable' too; feel like saying 'hey, I'm just a human too and I didn't even pay to stay here - the conference organisers did!'.

     

    Give me a modest little self catering chalet in a remote south of France forest with a river running by for swimming in any day (which is what I'm looking forward too right now!).

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    That'll be fun!

     

    Heaven help us that his man is SoSfS

     

    Mr Mundell, MP for Dumfries-shire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale, said claims of welfare-related hardship from Mark Frankland, a volunteer with the First Base Agency which runs the food bank, "should be taken with a pinch of salt" because he is an outspoken Scottish independence supporter.

     

    Mundell sees no irony in him getting himself a bit of self promotion out of opening a food bank that the policies of his party are promoting the need for, whilst making petty attacks on those actually volunteering their asses off to open and run. I've read a lot about Mark Frankland; you couldn't get someone more charitable and hard working in his efforts to help those in need. Mundell frankly disgusts me.

     

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    National not beating about the bush as usual.

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Ooch, even the Record is asking what the point of Labour is:

     

    https://twitter.com/Daily_Record/status/623643676317646848

     

    Less extravagantly of course, but...

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  • Location: Ancrum
  • Weather Preferences: HOT SUNSHINE!
  • Location: Ancrum

    My god you lot talk. It's all good though. I just caught up about 10 pages :D  Who won that Thornie-something by election?

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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
  • Weather Preferences: Wind driven falling snow
  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)

    Ooch, even the Record is asking what the point of Labour is:

     

    https://twitter.com/Daily_Record/status/623643676317646848

     

    Less extravagantly of course, but..

     

    From the Herald, "Labour are a party of sheep herded by the Tory government":

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/13489537.Labour__a_party_of_sheep_herded_by_a_Tory_government/

     

    A tad unfair on sheep, I thought.

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  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W
  • Location: Kingdom of Fife: 56.2º N, 3.2º W

    From the Herald, "Labour are a party of sheep herded by the Tory government":

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/13489537.Labour__a_party_of_sheep_herded_by_a_Tory_government/

     

    A tad unfair on sheep, I thought.

    I had the misfortune to be caught on a narrow drove path by a few sheep wanting to go in the opposite direction. One particularly bolshi lady took exception and was determined to have a go at me so I legged it over a dyke 'till they'd gone.  :angry:

     

    Monty Python also did a sketch about sheep ('Arrold ?) :D, I agree, not all sheep are as easily led as Labour 

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  • Location: Ancrum
  • Weather Preferences: HOT SUNSHINE!
  • Location: Ancrum

    I was charged and hurt by a ram when I was a bairn and my son was rolled on by a coo when he worked on the farm... although I live deep in the country I'm quite feart of sheep and coos lol

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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold. Enjoy all extremes though.
  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.

    How appropriate.

    I wonder if the sale of eggs will go up in Dumfries?   :rolleyes:

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    https://archive.is/DvYNV#selection-781.77-781.198

     

    "The British are special, the world knows it, in our innermost thoughts, we know it. This is the greatest nation on Earth."

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    #DangerousSuperiorityNationalism

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33619645

     

    Addressing the Progress think tank, Mr Blair attacked the SNP, saying nationalism was "caveman politics".

     

     

    :unknw:

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover

    From the Herald, "Labour are a party of sheep herded by the Tory government":

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/13489537.Labour__a_party_of_sheep_herded_by_a_Tory_government/

     

    A tad unfair on sheep, I thought.

    Until they start standing on their own two feet instead of abstaining/siding with the conservatives, that is exactly what they seem to have become. 

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    This is just surreal.

     

    I find myself offering helpful advice to the Labour party / defending Corbyn and a move to the centre left social democratic as the last hope for the union...

     

    While watching this all unfold:

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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)

    This is just surreal.

     

    I find myself offering helpful advice to the Labour party / defending Corbyn and a move to the centre left social democratic as the last hope for the union...

     

    While watching this all unfold:

     

    That is surreal.

     

    To go off on a tangent it's also another example of unionist maths. If fourteen out of thirty-five (40%) is "almost half" then what does that make 45%? "As near as damn it half"? Or "A decisive result"?

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    It appears that Labour grassroot members are wrong for supporting Corbyn, only the media and MPs know what is best for the party! More scarey news to follow if Corbyn maintains his lead....reminds me of Inderef!

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    So Scotland is a colony and Mundell is colonial governor?

     

    Tories seem to have a strange concept of international human rights laws. A reminder you numbskull:

     

    http://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/ccpr.aspx

     

    PART I
     
    Article 1
     
    1. All peoples [scottish in this case] have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.
     
    2. All peoples may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations arising out of international economic co-operation, based upon the principle of mutual benefit, and international law. In no case may a people be deprived of its own means of subsistence.
     
    3. The States Parties to the present Covenant [that's the UK], including those having responsibility for the administration of Non-Self-Governing [scotland] and Trust Territories, shall promote the realization of the right of self-determination, and shall respect that right, in conformity with the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations.

     

     

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13493059.Mundell_urges_Sturgeon_to__come_clean__over_second_independence_referendum/

     

    In throwing down the challenge to the First Minister, David Mundell also signalled that if there were just a form of words in the Nationalists’ policy programme to allow “maximum flexibilityâ€, then this would not be a mandate to hold another poll, suggesting that, in those circumstances, Westminster – which remains the constitutional authority for holding legal referendums – would not sanction one.

     

     

    Careful here Mundell. The moment the UK stops being democratic is the moment it gives permission for Scotland to UDI and go for independence by force if needed.

     

    Mind what happened when the UK didn't allow Ireland to freely become independent? Best not go down that route huh? When democracy is overruled, force comes next; it's why we have democracy.

     

    If SNP include e.g. 'The Scottish Government is free, at any time, to hold another independence referendum' in their manifesto and people give them a mandate, that's that.

     

    It's then up to the electorate to decide, should a referendum be held, whether to vote in or out. SNP have been very clear on this; it is not for them and certainly not for the English parliament to decide whether Scotland will be independent. It is for the Scottish electorate alone.

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    I think Scots should make their displeasure with the Governor tomorrow...

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-33635706

     

    Rotten eggs and tomatoes sales to rocket.

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  • Location: St rads Dover
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, T Storms.
  • Location: St rads Dover

    I think Scots should make their displeasure with the Governor tomorrow...

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-33635706

     

    Rotten eggs and tomatoes sales to rocket.

    I defend the decision to use him too, to show him how hypocritical his government is. He can open it and be told by the people running it why it's needed. Not that it'll change his opinion in any way. It may though who knows. The battle has to start somewhere. 

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Throwing things isn't a very good way to behave. Baby's throw things.

    Do you mean babies:bomb:

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    Throwing things isn't a very good way to behave. 

     

    Like missiles / bombs you mean? Yes, these can kill thousands of innocent people. But that's ok right; just 'collateral damage'.

     

    However, if someone did actually throw a tomato... scandalous.

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  • Location: Live Thame (Oxfordshire), Work Heathrow Airport
  • Location: Live Thame (Oxfordshire), Work Heathrow Airport

    Good on him for having the balls to turn up knowing full well that his party are the ones held responsible for food banks.

    There would be many more dummies thrown if he refused to turn up.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Good on him for having the balls to turn up knowing full well that his party are the ones held responsible for food banks.

    There would be many more dummies thrown if he refused to turn up.

    Aye...Cameron is a hero!

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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold. Enjoy all extremes though.
  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.

    Throwing things isn't a very good way to behave. Baby's throw things.

    That explains your avatar then!

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