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  • Location: North of Falkirk
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  • Location: North of Falkirk

    I'm sure the Spanish fishermen are trembling at the thought of entering the defenceless Scottish waters.....

    Don't worry, we'll soon build up our defence force when Trident is moved out of Faslane. I mean what a great empty space of a base for the new SDF. Thousands of jobs will be created, too...Hey, we'll even re-open our coastguard centres again after the current UK govt closed all but one. Just like they did with the RAF bases up here. 

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    And that ignorant, offensive, rant sums up exactly why the YES campaign failed  

    Good god. What a load of boarish spiteful bile from bad losers has been posted during the night. I actually dread to think how Scotland would be run if this is representative of how the yes vote behav

    I'm disappointed in the lack of grace shown by some across the net in accepting this No vote. A complete lack of any empathy and understanding as to why fellow Scots didn't vote Yes.   I personally

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  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl
  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl

    so you would rather live in a crap country with a crap lifestyle just to get a cheap pint.

     

    what do they get paid in wages in Norway plus how would you know its not policy to keep down social problems through drink related offenses or strain through drink on health care there could be many things that mean a pint is that price.

     

    I saw a thing from America about crap wages in mcdonalds and they were talking about Denmark where they get double the wages but the big mac is only 41 cents dearer than an American one when taken at exchange rate

    I didn't say that did I??

    Just pointing out that the Scandinavian countries aren't  necessarily a perfect paradise.....you need to go to NZ for that. :laugh:

    For example in Norway food and drink is highly taxed .....as is income .....and health care costs are high but wages are high .....but the grass always looks greener (My experience from the five countries I've lived in is that it's a case of swings and rounabouts).

     

    Too many people are quick to moan about life in the Uk....but compared to most countries in the world you're lucky living here.

    Why not try the interactive OECD quality of life index ...and see which country best fits with your life priorities http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/

     

    I see that Norway comes 12th on this particular index  with Uk 16th      http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp. I wonder where an independent Scotland would sit?

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  • Location: @scotlandwx
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  • Location: @scotlandwx

    Another rally this evening this time from George Square at 18:00. Live link for feed below.

     

    http://new.livestream.com/accounts/6163639/events/3397340

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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

    Pointless comment, I've did.

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  • Location: Maddiston , Falkirk, Scotland 390ft above sea level
  • Location: Maddiston , Falkirk, Scotland 390ft above sea level

    Kind of bored listening to people saying it's £6 for a pint in Norway and they are taxed more than us. A country that has salaries 25% higher than the UK. Looks after its old people. Has world class healthcare. Is the second richest country in the world. Has the best quality and life expectancy in the world. Every citizen is a dollar millionaire thanks to the oil fund. I want some of that!

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

    Another day of lies, unreasonable promises, threats and goodness knows what else

    To be honest the SNP were flapping at the NHS story to be honest with their spin machine working more like a one armed bandit with the story seemingly changing until they could find a way to implicate Westminster, strange considering NHS spending in Scotland is independent from the rest of the UK. Whoops.

     

    Oh and in lighter news, thanks facebook :p

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    Oh I will get onto the "Three musketeers and their mission to save the union later".

    Also Gordon Brown should be put in the stocks, permanently

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  • Location: Maddiston , Falkirk, Scotland 390ft above sea level
  • Location: Maddiston , Falkirk, Scotland 390ft above sea level

    Of course Captain you missed the part that the so called hole.Is actually an agreed savings target of 3% which the health boards agreed to make. Also the simple fact that Scotland only receives a fixed budget which has been cut very year by Westminster. So the government had to bridge the gap by taking money from other areas. It's finite and they can only juggle with the fixed budget so much. Explain how a budget cut and managing savings is in some way the Scottish governments error? Unfortunately the truth is hidden in the white noise as usual.This is not denial it's fact.The budget has been cut!

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  • Location: Central Falkirk
  • Location: Central Falkirk

    Don't worry, we'll soon build up our defence force when Trident is moved out of Faslane. I mean what a great empty space of a base for the new SDF. Thousands of jobs will be created, too...Hey, we'll even re-open our coastguard centres again after the current UK govt closed all but one. Just like they did with the RAF bases up here. 

     You ever been to Faslane, BFT? I think anyone who had been there would realise just how completely unsuitable it is for anything other than submarine support. The infrastructure, the topography and the geography is all wrong - along with the small matter of it being on the west coast rather than the east.

     

    Rosyth would be much better, IMHO. the very fact of Faslane being suggested shows the exceedingly poor understanding of the needs of the armed forces by those who look for a quick fix for the huge job-losses associated with the loss of the submarine support function on the Clyde.

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  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl
  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl

    Kind of bored listening to people saying it's £6 for a pint in Norway and they are taxed more than us. A country that has salaries 25% higher than the UK. Looks after its old people. Has world class healthcare. Is the second richest country in the world. Has the best quality and life expectancy in the world. Every citizen is a dollar millionaire thanks to the oil fund. I want some of that!

    What sort of Nirvana do you really think Scotland will be. Reality check time? Yes even Norway has poverty http://www.newsinenglish.no/2014/06/26/child-poverty-on-the-rise-in-norway/

    Life expectancy in Norway is 17th in the WHO table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy.

    I'm not disputing that Scotland will have a decent quality of life etc but some of the expectation just isn't realistic.

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  • Location: Inbhir Nis / Inverness - 636 ft asl
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  • Location: Inbhir Nis / Inverness - 636 ft asl

    Another day of lies, unreasonable promises, threats and goodness knows what else

    To be honest the SNP were flapping at the NHS story to be honest with their spin machine working more like a one armed bandit with the story seemingly changing until they could find a way to implicate Westminster, strange considering NHS spending in Scotland is independent from the rest of the UK. Whoops.

     

    Oh and in lighter news, thanks facebook :p

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    Oh I will get onto the "Three musketeers and their mission to save the union later".

    Also Gordon Brown should be put in the stocks, permanently

    NHS spending in Scotland is not independent from the UK, whoops!

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  • Location: Maddiston , Falkirk, Scotland 390ft above sea level
  • Location: Maddiston , Falkirk, Scotland 390ft above sea level

    Yes Scotland the only nation without a navy and an army. We must be the stupidest country in the world.

    Indeed Northern.

    Kiwi all nations have problems does that mean we shouldn't be independent. I wasn't saying Scotland would be Norway just pointing out it was a good model.

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  • Location: Peterborough
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  • Location: Peterborough

    NHS spending in Scotland is not independent from the UK, whoops!

    Actually it has been devolved since 1999. Of course Scotland is bound by the money that comes in from Westminster, but Scotland is free to do as it wishes as long as any extra spending on the NHS is made up elsewhere.

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  • Location: Sunderland
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  • Location: Sunderland

    or we could turn that around and we should all be laughing our heads off at you lot because its you lot that are sitting back being taken in by the same old crap believing that's the best that can be done for you

    and what am I being taken in by BUS?.......please, enlighten me......it beggars beyond belief how you can believe every word Alex Salmond utters yet denounce every other comment from rUK politicians......the continuing use of the phrase 'you lot'  betrays your true attitude to 'us lot' me thinks!.....It infers a very patronizing nee insulting attitude to 'us lot' if I'm totally frank

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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)
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  • Location: Calgary, Canada (1230m asl)

    Actually it has been devolved since 1999. Of course Scotland is bound by the money that comes in from Westminster, but Scotland is free to do as it wishes as long as any extra spending on the NHS is made up elsewhere.

     

    And that's the crux of the matter CS :)

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

    I didn't say that did I??

    Just pointing out that the Scandinavian countries aren't  necessarily a perfect paradise.....you need to go to NZ for that. :laugh:

    For example in Norway food and drink is highly taxed .....as is income .....and health care costs are high but wages are high .....but the grass always looks greener (My experience from the five countries I've lived in is that it's a case of swings and rounabouts).

     

    Too many people are quick to moan about life in the Uk....but compared to most countries in the world you're lucky living here.

    Why not try the interactive OECD quality of life index ...and see which country best fits with your life priorities http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/

     

    I see that Norway comes 12th on this particular index  with Uk 16th      http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp. I wonder where an independent Scotland would sit?

     

     

    lucky to live in the uk just how many foodbanks are there in Norway?

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  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol
  • Location: Stoke Gifford, Bristol

    and what am I being taken in by BUS?.......please, enlighten me......it beggars beyond belief how you can believe every word Alex Salmond utters yet denounce every other comment from rUK politicians......the continuing use of the phrase 'you lot'  betrays your true attitude to 'us lot' me thinks!.....It infers a very patronizing nee insulting attitude to 'us lot' if I'm totally frank

    Agreed. The guy's true colours show through again.

    I see the Norwegian model has been brought up again. Cant see many Scots wanting to pay £25 for a doctor's appointment to be honest, although i could be wrong.

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  • Location: @scotlandwx
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  • Location: @scotlandwx

    Twitter feed on #indyref getting more polarized and uglier by the hour.. Passion, rage, raw emotion, nonsensical out bursts, the works.

     

    So, it's nice to see a bonnie picture in among some of the dross.

     

    Picturesque evening on the Isle of Mull

     

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    Another debate at 21:00 hosted by Dimblebot. Also polls imminent - 

     

    Today – 9pm: ICM poll for The Guardian
    Today – 10:30pm: Survation poll for the Scottish Daily Mail
     
    Wednesday 17th – 6pm: Ipsos MORI poll for STV News
    Wednesday 17th – Expected well before midnight: YouGov poll
    Wednesday 17th – No time yet stated: Opinium poll for The Telegraph
     
    Thursday 18th – No time yet stated, early afternoon expected: Ipsos MORI poll for the Evening Standard

     

     

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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

    Many Tory MPs that I have spoken to today are angry - angry that the Prime Minster has put the union at risk, angry that he is offering Scotland so much. If Scotland votes Yes, some will demand David Cameron's head. If Scotland votes No, they will demand more powers for the English. - James Landale, BBC Political Editor.

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    You ever been to Faslane, BFT? I think anyone who had been there would realise just how completely unsuitable it is for anything other than submarine support. The infrastructure, the topography and the geography is all wrong - along with the small matter of it being on the west coast rather than the east.

     

    Rosyth would be much better, IMHO. the very fact of Faslane being suggested shows the exceedingly poor understanding of the needs of the armed forces by those who look for a quick fix for the huge job-losses associated with the loss of the submarine support function on the Clyde.

    Really? A deep water port protected on all sides by tall mountains. Seems like an ideal base for a navy. Granted a presence on the East coast would be good too.
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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

    and what am I being taken in by BUS?.......please, enlighten me......it beggars beyond belief how you can believe every word Alex Salmond utters yet denounce every other comment from rUK politicians......the continuing use of the phrase 'you lot'  betrays your true attitude to 'us lot' me thinks!.....It infers a very patronizing nee insulting attitude to 'us lot' if I'm totally frank

     

     

    politicians that say one thing and deliver another did labour say they were going to start privatising the NHS did the tories say they would continue this or did they say they were going to bring in the bedroom tax its the same parties always doing these things but seem to be voted for over and over again.

     

    why not believe him he has done more for us than any party previous.

     

    come on folk need to stop picking on things to try and make out people are being insulting so I cant call you English I cant refer to the rest as you lot I cant refer to my fellow Scottish people as we or us but its ok for you to patronize me taking the crap because I believe a politician who has a proven record of doing things for the Scottish people and for others in here to say we are silly and things for this belief but of course its always the same in here seems one set of rules for one group and different for another.

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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

    I don't think Cameron will last as PM if he lose Scotland. I probably give him until the new year for him to resign I think. I'm pretty sure that the Con-Dem coalition would've torn apart over Scotland.

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  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.
  • Weather Preferences: very cold frosty days, blizzards, very hot weather, floods, storms
  • Location: Clayton-Le-Woods, Chorley 59m asl.

    This is a interesting article from the Referendum Live BBC:

     

    Tom Gordon from the Sunday Herald told the BBC that the city of Glasgow was crucial to the independence vote.

    He said: "It has long been said that the road to independence runs through Glasgow and that's for a number of reasons.

    "One in nine voters in Scotland lives in this city and there are two other big groups of people - Labour supporters and people who just don't vote, there were five constituencies in Scotland where turnout was below 40% and they were all in Glasgow.

    "So if the Yes campaign can crack Glasgow, if it can convert Labour supporters and motivate non-voters, they are probably on to a winning formula for the rest of Scotland as well."

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  • Location: Central Falkirk
  • Location: Central Falkirk

    Really? A deep water port protected on all sides by tall mountains. Seems like an ideal base for a navy. Granted a presence on the East coast would be good too.

    Not just the navy proposed to be there, remember. And in truth not even enough berthing-space for the numbers of small craft suggested. The land-side would be hopeless for the admin and support-services. built on slopes, no parking, huge specialist facilities aimed at submarines that would need lengthy decommissioning... I could go on. It's a joke really. Not thought through, like so much else in that white paper

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  • Location: Duddingston, Edinburgh
  • Location: Duddingston, Edinburgh

     

    Twitter feed on #indyref getting more polarized and uglier by the hour.. Passion, rage, raw emotion, nonsensical out bursts, the works.

     

     

     

     

    Been like that for months now

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