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  • Location: Near Beverley, East Yorks. (2 metres a.s.l.)
  • Weather Preferences: Something good in all four seasons
  • Location: Near Beverley, East Yorks. (2 metres a.s.l.)

    One small mercy, that it is headed out to the

    ocean.

    B.

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  • Location: Dorset
  • Location: Dorset

    The problems come in around 3 days time IMO.

    There is little doubt that considerable radiation is now being thrown up into the air above the reactors (seen by the cancellation of the helicopters due to high radiation levels up there).

    Up until now they have been very lucky that the winds have been carrying this radiation out to sea, see the GFS wind profile for 850's below for now.

    (on all the diagrams the northern black dot are the reactor's location, the southern black dot is Tokyo city and the arrows obviously indicate the wind direction).

    The current wind direction is almost certainly the reason why radiation levels are not higher inland.

    The problem comes in 3 days time Sun/Mon latest.

    At this point any radiation still being emitted will be spread quickly towards Tokyo, particulary on Monday when winds will be strong and look at the moment as is they will take the radiation directly over Tokyo.

    I am concerned that this isn't being shown on tele, but is almost certainly the reason why the US, British etc are arranging planes urgently to get their nationals out of the Tokyo area.

    The Clock is ticking and the open fuel rods need to be incased,covered and water cooled by Sunday otherwise Japan is really in trouble.

    As early as tomorrow and into Saturday, Panic will start to hit Tokyo IMO.

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  • Location: Near Beverley, East Yorks. (2 metres a.s.l.)
  • Weather Preferences: Something good in all four seasons
  • Location: Near Beverley, East Yorks. (2 metres a.s.l.)

    As the nuclear crisis worsens, we must pray for fair winds and no rain

    By Geoffrey Lean World Last updated: March 17th, 2011 (Telegraph)

    After days of seesawing between hope and fear, between a triumphant vindication of nuclear safety and a disastrous loss of confidence in the atom, events at the stricken Fukushima nuclear reactors seem to have taken an alarming turn for the worse, as the Foreign Office advises Britons to consider leaving Tokyo and north-eastern Japan.

    Yukiya Amano, the Japanese head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, has abandoned his largely reassuring stance to say the situation is “very seriousâ€. Gregory Jaczko, the Chairman of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, which has been assisting the Japanese authorities, said that radiation levels are “extremely highâ€. And the EU’s energy commissioner, Guenther Oettinger, said: “We are somewhere between a disaster and a major disaster.†He added: “There is talk of an apocalypse and I think the word is particularly well chosen.â€

    The danger has arisen not from the three reactors themselves that have been the focus of almost of the attention of the last five days, but from the pool used to store highly radioactive spent fuel at a fourth. Unlike the reactor cores, which are inside thick containment, the pool – which is on upper floor of the reactor building – has no special shielding: all that lies between the radioactivity and the environment is the water in which it is supposed to be submerged. And Mr Jaczko has told the US Congress that that has all gone. “We believe,†he said, “that there is no water in the spent fuel pondâ€.

    Furthermore, he added, the radiation was so intense that it “could possibly impact the ability to take corrective measuresâ€. Already plans to drop water on it from helicopters had to be abandoned because they would have involved pilots flying into the radioactive plume and it may be that no-one can get near them.

    If that is so, there may be no way of salvaging the situation, and that the last defence will be the element. So far, thank goodness the wind has been blowing the plume out to sea in fine weather. If it were to turn inland the fears of a catastrophe could materialize, especially if rain were to bring the airborne radioactive materials down to earth.

    The people living around Chernobyl were lucky: the accident happened on a still night and the heat of the fire carried the radioactivity high into the air, as if in an invisible chimney, where it encountered a gentle breeze tat wafted it over relatively uninhabited marshes. Providentially it did not rain for days. We can only desperately hope for similarly meteorological good fortune in Japan.

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  • Location: West Malvern, West Midlands, 280m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snow! Severe storms.
  • Location: West Malvern, West Midlands, 280m ASL

    Spring tides could also pose more risks to the stricken region, according to the Japan Meteorological Agency.

    Increase of the risk of the submergence and flood during the spring tide associated with the ground sink caused by the 2011 off the Pacific coast of Tohoku Earthquake

    The 2011 off the Pacific coast of Tohoku Earthquake largely sank the ground level of the Pacific coast of Tohoku region and northern part of Kanto region. The risk of the submergence and flood in these regions has become larger than before the 2011 off the Pacific coast of Tohoku Earthquake.

    Therefore, it is necessary to pay special attention to the tide level and to prepare for the submergence and flood in these regions, especially during the spring tide, when the flood tide level becomes higher than usual.

    JMA will alert the region where the ground level largely sank by issuing the Storm surge Advisory.

    Special attention should be paid to the tide level around spring tides (until the end of April);

    • from 18 to 26 March, 2011
    • from 1 to 11 April, 2011
    • from 16 to 24 April, 2011

    Images are in the link, I thought they might be too large for the forum.

    http://www.jma.go.jp...pring_tide.html

    See also these pages on the same site for weather info:

    Japanese Rain Radar

    Surface Analysis charts

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

    Forecast for next few days:

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    As posted above by Iceberg, Saturday morning looks to be a turnaround and with the safety of the whole area starting to be compromised, I suspect things will move quite quickly now.

    Current:

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    http://www.weather-report.jp/com/home/kishomap/fusoku/japan.html

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    Okay for the radiation map which are nasty levels when it's time too leave quickly???

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

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    Updated on March 17, 2011 19:20 (JST)(Japan Standard Time)This Results are the maximum values of the space those rate distributions shown from local governments in the latest updated date and time. Not surprisingly, Miyagi and Fukushima are completely N/A, as every single reading is Under Survey, also known as censored.nGy/h (nano- Grays per hour)Ishikawa is reported also as under survey.

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    Territory Name Value

    Aichi

    Akita

    Aomori 29

    Chiba

    Ehime 25

    Fukui 78

    Fukuoka

    Fukushima 0

    Gifu

    Gumma

    Hiroshima

    Hokkaido 36

    Hyogo

    Ibaraki 876

    Ishikawa 0

    Iwate

    Kagawa

    Kagoshima 43

    Kanagawa 74

    Kochi

    Kumamoto

    Kyoto 78

    Mie

    Miyagi 0

    Miyazaki

    Nagano

    Nagasaki 33

    Nara

    Niigata 41

    Oita

    Okayama 39

    Okinawa

    Osaka 58

    Saga 33

    Saltama

    Shiga

    Shimane 44

    Shizuoka 80

    Tochigi

    Tokushima

    Tokyo

    Tottori 39

    Toyama

    Wakayama

    Yamagata

    Yamaguchi

    Yamanashi

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK

    Their nuclear industry has a history of cover up's and the lack of information available at the moment just makes it look like they are not telling the whole truth this time either. if they are to be believed they need to give prompt and accurate information.

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  • Location: Louth, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Misty Autumn days and foggy nights
  • Location: Louth, Lincolnshire

    Their nuclear industry has a history of cover up's and the lack of information available at the moment just makes it look like they are not telling the whole truth this time either. if they are to be believed they need to give prompt and accurate information.

    Every country with a civil or military nuclear infrastructure has a history of cover-ups and deception. The Fukushima disaster (for that's surely what it will end up being) is just the first major incident in the internet/24 hour live media age. Had the partial meltdown at the General Atomics experimental sodium reactor at Santa Susana California happened in 2011 instead of 1959, or the destruction of an air-alert B-52 at Goldboro N. Carolina, which resulted in the jettisoning of 2 24 megatonne nuclear bombs, one of which tripped five of its six failsafe triggers happened in 2011 instead of 1961, then we'd be all over them, instead of them being essentially forgotten, no matter how potentially catastrophic they may have been. That's not to say that the Japanese authorities shouldn't be utterly open and honest about the situation and make whatever arrangements are necessary within their current circumstance, but it wouldn't be fair to single the Japanese nuclear industry out for being particularly secretive or deceptive. You can find evidence of both in the history of most nuclear powers (civillian or otherwise).

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  • Location: Dorset
  • Location: Dorset

    I agree with alot of what you say JBD, I Think added to that is that Japanese culture of embarassement(i.e they don't like discussing issues/problems etc).

    and a more general belief in the government to fix things (again i.e dealing with these kinds of things is the job of the government and we trust them to do the right thing), alot of this stems from the emperor era.

    Add this to what you say and the lack of information is very standard and to be expected.

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

    Freezing winds, hail storms and thick snow are the latest threats to 430,000 beleaguered survivors of northern Japan's week-long cascade of disasters. After a massive earthquake, devastating tsunami and nuclear crisis, many people made homeless are now facing icy weather, with temperatures forecast to plunge to –5C (23F).

    The risk of a deadly humanitarian crisis is rising among refugees lacking food, fuel and blankets, even as the world's attention is transfixed by the unfolding nuclear emergency at the Fukushima plant. The official death toll has risen to 4,255, with 8,194 people registered as missing. Many more are likely to be added as bodies are found in the mud and rubble of the tsunami aftermath. Morgues have run out of space so schools have been used instead. Officials are struggling to identify the dead and deal with their remains.

    A big concern is for those who escaped the tsunami but lost their homes. Up to 2,400 shelters are accommodating them; usually these are schools, shrines and city offices, but they are not equipped for the care and feeding of large numbers of people. The prefectural governments of Iwate, Miyagi and Fukushima, have asked the Japan Prefabricated Construction Suppliers & Manufacturers Association to build 32,800 temporary homes, but these are not expected to arrive for weeks.

    Such is the uniqueness of the situation, the 77-year-old emperor, Akihito, made a rare public address to urge a full-hearted rescue effort. "We don't know the number of victims, but I pray that every single person can be saved," he said. Help has come, but it is not enough. The defence minister, Toshimi Kitazawa, has ordered the first dispatch of reserve personnel since the self-defence forces were established during 1954. They join 80,000 troops, firefighters and emergency workers in the disaster area.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/16/japan-quake-tsunami-freezing-temperatures-relief?intcmp=239

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  • Location: Between Sidmouth and Exeter
  • Location: Between Sidmouth and Exeter

    The problems come in around 3 days time IMO.

    There is little doubt that considerable radiation is now being thrown up into the air above the reactors (seen by the cancellation of the helicopters due to high radiation levels up there).

    Up until now they have been very lucky that the winds have been carrying this radiation out to sea, see the GFS wind profile for 850's below for now.

    (on all the diagrams the northern black dot are the reactor's location, the southern black dot is Tokyo city and the arrows obviously indicate the wind direction).

    The current wind direction is almost certainly the reason why radiation levels are not higher inland.

    The problem comes in 3 days time Sun/Mon latest.

    At this point any radiation still being emitted will be spread quickly towards Tokyo, particulary on Monday when winds will be strong and look at the moment as is they will take the radiation directly over Tokyo.

    I am concerned that this isn't being shown on tele, but is almost certainly the reason why the US, British etc are arranging planes urgently to get their nationals out of the Tokyo area.

    The Clock is ticking and the open fuel rods need to be incased,covered and water cooled by Sunday otherwise Japan is really in trouble.

    As early as tomorrow and into Saturday, Panic will start to hit Tokyo IMO.

    On the first two maps with the black arrows pointing NE-SW to me it looks like the wind is coming from the SW and going to the NE instead (the little feathers point to the direction the wind is coming from, so unless I'm wrong thankfully that shows strong SW winds instead

    I must say some of the things I've heard are a bit alarming, like a nuclear power station not designed to withstand earthquakes and tsunamis built on the coast next to the most active fault on the earth.. I mean, really!?!?

    I used to be ok with nuclear, but after reading about this and a list of other past events now I'm not so sure.

    Those poor people lets hope this is resolved quickly.

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  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)
  • Location: Eastbourne, East Sussex (work in Mid Sussex)

    Latest news release from Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency in .pdf format:

    http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110317-2.pdf

    A major struggle is underway to maintain cooling of used nuclear fuel at Fukushima Daiichi 3 and 4. Helicopters have made water drops and large fire trucks are showering the buildings. While unit 3 was in operation when the earthquake struck on 11 March, and has been in trouble since the tsunami took out emergency diesel generators, unit 4 was fully shut down at that time and had appeared to remain safe until 16 March when an explosion led to fires.

    The explosion at unit 4 is thought to have been from a build-up of hydrogen in the area near the used nuclear fuel pond. It severely damaged the building, as well as that of adjacent unit 3, with which it shares a central control room. Now the situation of the cooling ponds is the priority of authorities. Containing highly radioactive heat-generating nuclear fuel, they require an adequate level of water to be maintained as well as pumped circulation to control water temperature. In the previous two days the temperature of unit 4's pond had been 84ºC but no more recent data is available. At these temperatures cooling by natural convection begins to be markedly less effective. Normal operating levels are about 25ºC. There is no information on the temperature of the pond at unit 3.

    However, the high levels of radiation and presence of hydrogen at unit 4 strongly indicate that fuel is uncovered and suffering damage in the pond, although it is not clear that the pond is actually empty. At present, officials believe the pond contains some water, based on helicopter observations. Radiation at ground level near units 3 and 4 is high: peaking at 400 millisieverts per hour on the inland side of unit 3, and 100 millisieverts per hour on the inland side of unit 4. At the highest exposure rate, a nuclear worker or soldier could remain in the area for less than 40 minutes before leaving the site, unable to return. With such serious damage to the reactor buildings it is thought that radiation from further degradation of stored fuel at units 3 and 4 would be released to the environment unchecked.

    With the seriousness of the situation and the radiation levels on the ground, it was decided to try to use a helicopter to douse the reactor building of unit 3. Around 100 metres above the facility radiation was around 87 millisieverts per hour. Two army helicopters made four attempts to drop seawater on unit 3, but this did not appear accurate enough to be effective. Tepco said in a news conference that radiation readings had dropped from 3.78 millisieverts per hour to 3.75 millisieverts per hour, so the effect at present seems marginal at best. One attempt was made to douse unit 4 but pilots drew back after encountering high levels of radiation.

    After clearing heavy explosion debris from tsunami and the various explosions across the site over the last six days, eleven high pressure fire trucks are now showering the reactors. It is thought they are targeting unit 3. Tackling that first may lower the high radiation levels on the ground near that unit, allowing more flexibility and speed when tackling unit 4 or any subsequent units whose fuel pools may get into trouble.

    Radiation at site border

    Despite high levels of radiation close to the units, levels detected at the edge of the power plant site have been steadily decreasing.

    17 March, 4.00pm

    0.64 millisieverts per hour

    17 March, 9.00am

    1.47 millisieverts per hour

    16 March, 7.00pm

    1.93 millisieverts per hour

    16 March, 12.30pm

    3.39 millisieverts per hour

    Cooling pond temperatures, as reported by the International Atomic Energy Agency:

    Unit 4

    14 March, 10:08 UTC: 84 ËšC

    15 March, 10:00 UTC: 84 ËšC

    16 March, 05:00 UTC: no data

    Unit 5

    14 March, 10:08 UTC: 59.7 ËšC

    15 March, 10:00 UTC: 60.4 ËšC

    16 March, 05:00 UTC: 62.7 ËšC

    Unit 6

    14 March, 10:08 UTC: 58.0 ËšC

    15 March, 10:00 UTC: 58.5 ËšC

    16 March, 05:00 UTC: 60.0 ËšC

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS_Attempts_to_refill_fuel_ponds_1703111.html

    More workers were drafted for the frontline of Japan’s biggest nuclear disaster as radiation limits forced Tokyo Electric Power Co. to replace members of its original team trying to avert a nuclear meltdown. The utility increased its workforce at the Fukushima Dai- Ichi plant to 322 yesterday from 180 on March 16 as it tried to douse water over exposed nuclear fuel rods to prevent melting and leaking lethal radiation. Levels beside the exposed rods would deliver a fatal dose in 16 seconds, said David Lochbaum, a nuclear physicist for the Union of Concerned Scientists and a former U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission safety instructor.

    The permissible cumulative radiation exposure was more than doubled two days ago to extend the time nuclear workers could legally spend onsite. Emissions have risen since the plant was rocked by the March 11 quake. An hour’s exposure in some areas equates to half the annual maximum level, said John Price, a Melbourne-based consultant on industrial accidents and former safety policy staffer at the U.K.’s National Nuclear Corp. “They have an access time of 10 to 25 hours at the most,†Price, 60, said in a telephone interview yesterday. “At that rate, you are going to go through workers very fast.â€

    Workers are being ordered to leave the plant, located 135 miles (220 kilometers) north of Tokyo, before radiation dosages reach the maximum permissible level, said a spokesman for the utility who declined to give his name. Radiation exposure levels are measured in millisieverts. Exposure totaling 100 millisieverts over a year is the lowest level at which any increase in cancer is evident, according to the World Nuclear Association in London. The cumulative maximum level for nuclear workers was increased to 250 millisieverts from 100 millisieverts by Japan’s health ministry on March 15.

    “Once they have reached that limit, they can’t go in the plant anymore,†Price said. “You shouldn’t be doing that sort of work ever again.†One plant worker was exposed to 106.3 millisieverts, Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said in a website posting yesterday. Nine Tokyo Electric employees and eight subcontractors suffered exposure to their face not requiring hospital treatment, two policemen needed radiation decontamination, and some firemen exposed to radiation are under investigation, the International Atomic Energy Agency said on its website yesterday.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-17/japan-churns-through-heroic-workers-hitting-radiation-limits-for-humans.html
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  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, squally fronts, snow, frost, very mild if no snow or frost
  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)

    Take a look at this chart.. a great concern.

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    just looked up this 400 is 20.000 x-rays and added it to chart to give us an idea the incredible amount of radiation exposure.

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  • Location: Chevening Kent
  • Location: Chevening Kent

    The most concerning thing I have heard today is the large increases in radiation levels at the 30km zone with no readings given to the IAEA for the plant since yesterday ???

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  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, squally fronts, snow, frost, very mild if no snow or frost
  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)

    The most concerning thing I have heard today is the large increases in radiation levels at the 30km zone with no readings given to the IAEA for the plant since yesterday ???

    with the already fear they wont add panic and fear. it is much worse than being told i think.

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    im so shocked and upset by the terrible world events that are so frequent.

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK

    [Tomohiko Taniguchi, former government spokesman - now a professor at Keio University - told the BBC World Service that he felt the Japanese government has initially failed to grasp the seriousness of the disaster and could have done more. However he said that many Japanese were too preoccupied with the immediate impact of the disaster to criticise the administration. "It's like Japan is being stabbed by a gigantic knife. And it's still bleeding because the death toll is on the rise constantly. At the same time we have been very nervous about this possible near-Chernobyl situation. So there is no room psychologically for them to criticise the Japanese government because there are much, much more important things to do.â€]

     

    Would any other country do better in face of such a catastrophe :cc_confused:

    I doubt it, I certainly wouldn’t want to be at the mercy of our government :nonono:

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  • Location: Louth, Lincolnshire
  • Weather Preferences: Misty Autumn days and foggy nights
  • Location: Louth, Lincolnshire

    [Tomohiko Taniguchi, former government spokesman - now a professor at Keio University - told the BBC World Service that he felt the Japanese government has initially failed to grasp the seriousness of the disaster and could have done more. However he said that many Japanese were too preoccupied with the immediate impact of the disaster to criticise the administration. "It's like Japan is being stabbed by a gigantic knife. And it's still bleeding because the death toll is on the rise constantly. At the same time we have been very nervous about this possible near-Chernobyl situation. So there is no room psychologically for them to criticise the Japanese government because there are much, much more important things to do.â€]

     

    Would any other country do better in face of such a catastrophe :cc_confused:

    I doubt it, I certainly wouldn’t want to be at the mercy of our government :nonono:

    Quite right MK - a valid point to make, I think. The 2004 Tsunami might have been on a larger geographical scale, but has there ever been a situation where a country has had to deal with a hugely damaging earthquake, a hugely damaging tsunami and a nuclear powerplant crisis at the same time? I doubt any country on the planet could have coped any better.

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  • Location: Milton Keynes MK
  • Weather Preferences: anything extreme or intense !
  • Location: Milton Keynes MK

    Quite right MK - a valid point to make, I think. The 2004 Tsunami might have been on a larger geographical scale, but has there ever been a situation where a country has had to deal with a hugely damaging earthquake, a hugely damaging tsunami and a nuclear powerplant crisis at the same time? I doubt any country on the planet could have coped any better.

    [ Quote: Chiba University professor Ken Joseph is in the coastal town of Ishinomaki, north of Sendai, where he has been delivering aid as part of the Japan Emergency Team. He told the BBC World Service: "The town reminded me of the pictures we'd seen of Hiroshima - it's like a bombed out city without any fire. We're absolutely desperate, there's no food, no help, no nothing. The nuclear situation is making people afraid to come out and help. This is too much for one country to take care of - we really need the world to step up and help. Many times in the past the Japanese haven't wanted to ask for help - this time they've pulled out all the stops. Too much is happening at one time for the Japanese to go this alone."]

    If there is anything good that could possibly come out of the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi plant hopefully it will be improvements to the safety of the nuclear industry so another country won't have to go though the same thing.

    [ Quote: The EU's energy chief has said that the "stress tests" European nations will conduct on nuclear reactors will likely expose safety shortcomings in some of them. "I think that the stress test that we want to conduct on all the nuclear reactors will show that not all of them meet the highest safety norms," EU energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger told Franco-German TV station Arte. EU states have agreed to conduct voluntary tests in the second half of the year on Europe's 143 reactors to determine their ability to withstand earthquakes and other disasters ]

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    Cold and Starvation. Problem is due to a lack of fuel even if they could get food in they probably couldn't ship it out.

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  • Location: Evesham, Worcs, Albion
  • Location: Evesham, Worcs, Albion

    If there is anything good that could possibly come out of the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi plant hopefully it will be improvements to the safety of the nuclear industry so another country won't have to go though the same thing.

    [ Quote: The EU's energy chief has said that the "stress tests" European nations will conduct on nuclear reactors will likely expose safety shortcomings in some of them. "I think that the stress test that we want to conduct on all the nuclear reactors will show that not all of them meet the highest safety norms," EU energy commissioner Guenther Oettinger told Franco-German TV station Arte. EU states have agreed to conduct voluntary tests in the second half of the year on Europe's 143 reactors to determine their ability to withstand earthquakes and other disasters ]

    You mean some 40 year old European reactors designed to withstand an 8.2 mag earthquake might not do so, unlike those in Japan? http://forum.netweather.tv/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

    OMG, and there was me living near Bradwell all those years not aware of the danger I was in! :whistling:

    The reaction of the rest of the world to this crisis is on a par with that of the American public panicking because the've run out of potassium iodide in New York. Says much about the inteligence of the human species and society as a whole.

    I'd sooner live next to a nuclear power station than a dry cleaners.....

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  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms, squally fronts, snow, frost, very mild if no snow or frost
  • Location: Stanwell(south side of Heathrow Ap)

    Could their be food drops? ive not seen this carried out, not seen any pictures in paper showing this. strict assistance is vital here, just get the funds, get things moving, this is were you ditch the rules holding rescue teams back, what has been done is remarkable to say the least, its such a massive disaster on an incredible scale, i just think all this paperwork holds things back. its radiation fears the main worry for aid teams i can understand that. it can't stop food,water,medicine...getting in.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    You mean some 40 year old European reactors designed to withstand an 8.2 mag earthquake might not do so, unlike those in Japan? http://forum.netweather.tv/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

    OMG, and there was me living near Bradwell all those years not aware of the danger I was in! :whistling:

    The reaction of the rest of the world to this crisis is on a par with that of the American public panicking because the've run out of potassium iodide in New York. Says much about the inteligence of the human species and society as a whole.

    I'd sooner live next to a nuclear power station than a dry cleaners.....

    Really I've got a ticket for you and you can guess where. Guess you'll be happy there.

    Anyway finally some good news. It looks like they could get power back to the pumps. We'll know by tomorrow if it's worked or not.

    If it fails we will fly Essan out there with a sweeping brush and Essan will quickly sweep up this mess within minutes no problem... :whistling: :whistling:

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    I;ve always wanted a look inside a nuclear power plant, only not one that had blown apart. Awful images and some workers in those plants must have been exposed to lethal doses of radiation.

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