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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    thats why there's unlikely to be any military intervention in somalia. it is an extremely dangerous place and aid agencies could not work without military help. it has no economic value. too high a risk for so little gain. think 'black hawk down'...

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    There is no other description for what is happening other than war crime and genocide.   Israel is technically the occupying force on Gaza and as such is duty bound to protect civilians.   Complet

    The scenes in Gaza look like the aftermath of a nuclear bomb, utter devastation. The Israelis telling people to go back to their homes in northern Gaza as its "safe", what are they supposed to go back

    Reported on the BBC too... An air strike on an army camp has killed three soldiers, the Syrian government says, blaming the US-led coalition for the attack. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    Last time America was there it got it's backside kicked.

    Anyway we now kicked out Libyan staff and got the rebels in the embassies.

    Of course now Gaddaffi can stay in the country if he's wanted or can leave when he will be promptly arrested. Somehow I think he'll stay and try and sit it out.

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  • Location: Camborne
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    Last time America was there it got it's backside kicked.

    And the relevance of that remark? As a matter of interest when did Somalia become part of the Middle East.? I realise too late my degree should have been in forum decoding!!

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  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl
  • Location: Near Lauder, SE Scotland, 175 m asl

    And the relevance of that remark? As a matter of interest when did Somalia become part of the Middle East.? I realise too late my degree should have been in forum decoding!!

    An older video, but one I always find funny, yet damn serious.

    Interviewer asks Americans who to invade next in the war on terror, then for them to put a pin on the world map where that country is....

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  • Location: Hanley, Stoke-on-trent
  • Location: Hanley, Stoke-on-trent

    An older video, but one I always find funny, yet damn serious.

    Interviewer asks Americans who to invade next in the war on terror, then for them to put a pin on the world map where that country is....

    I'd say Australia is in biiiig trouble SS!
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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    And the relevance of that remark? As a matter of interest when did Somalia become part of the Middle East.? I realise too late my degree should have been in forum decoding!!

    just to add to that, libya is actually in north africa. the point is, the U.S. and its allies use military intervention in the middle east under the guise of 'humanitarianism' to protect economic and political interests, whereas places like somalia who really need the help are largely ignored as they have no economic or political value

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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    Well now we're totally bogged down in Libya with no end in sight. I wonder how long we can keep shoveling money down a black hole.

    Moving onto Syria the expected nothing statement out of the UN. The UN does really need to start taking center stage or should be disbanded altogether. Ironically the Muslim world stays silent when Syria prevents civilian from going to prayers. The only country to speak up was Lebanon.

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

    Media coverage has gone quiet at libya.

    More deaths in libya with 85 civillians incl 33 children,this was on monday.

    Some interesting comments at the bottom,what most really think about it.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/193106.html

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    Well now we're totally bogged down in Libya with no end in sight. I wonder how long we can keep shoveling money down a black hole.

    Moving onto Syria the expected nothing statement out of the UN. The UN does really need to start taking center stage or should be disbanded altogether. Ironically the Muslim world stays silent when Syria prevents civilian from going to prayers. The only country to speak up was Lebanon.

    Aye, PIT. This whole 'mission' is fast turning into Cameron's Afghanistan/Iraq, if you ask me: despite all of Mr Hague's reassurances - it's all about the oil...

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    Now Nato are planning to arm Syria`s armred criminal gangs with weapons,where are events taking us indeed.

    http://www.presstv.c...ail/193902.html

    Who exactly are the armed criminal gangs in Syria?. That is apart from the Assad family. NATO has always been innifective, ask the Israelis. And if you want to know where events are taking us start off with a bit of history like the Balfour declaration and then the 1948 independence of Israel and the history from then on. Events are not really taking us where we haven't been before.

    I find the post very interesting considering the murderous activities by Syria in the Lebanon over the years.

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  • Location: 4 miles north of Durham City

    Now Nato are planning to arm Syria`s armred criminal gangs with weapons,where are events taking us indeed.

    http://www.presstv.c...ail/193902.html

    I'd be rather critical of anything coming out of DEBKA - just from personal experience. Also bare in mind that PressTV tend to be one of the most untruthful news agencies in the Middle East (they're basically a front for Khameni).

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

    I'd be rather critical of anything coming out of DEBKA - just from personal experience. Also bare in mind that PressTV tend to be one of the most untruthful news agencies in the Middle East (they're basically a front for Khameni).

    Russia and china won`t allow that I doubt.

    It`s on the sky channel 515 seen lots more world news,with all this unrest going on.

    This with Nato planning an attack in Iran in september what do you think?.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/192596.htm

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    The problem with interventions such as in Libya and now, if the previous reports are correct, Syria, we never really know the final outcome of this unrest is going to be. Attempts to impose western style values often meet with failure. The cultures are so very much different apart from which they know the west is there for the oil and this causes continued resentment in some quarters.

    I wonder whether it would be better to just let them get on with it and let them find their own solutions. A tyrannical government will fall sooner or later as shown through out history and current events - people will only stand so much before they rise up, though it is quite possible that one tyranny can be replaced by another

    As far as I see it the opposing ideologies of Israel and the Arab states will continue to ferment until such time as there is a real change of heart on both sides which I suspect will not be likely for a long time and while it continues it will remain a source of agitation for the region.

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    Apart from the obvious, Cameron & Obama need their 'dragon-slaying missions' just as Blair & Bush did, what exactly are we supposed to be doing in that region?

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    Apart from the obvious, Cameron & Obama need their 'dragon-slaying missions' just as Blair & Bush did, what exactly are we supposed to be doing in that region?

    Quite. The same as we did during the Hama massacre of 1982. Nothing. A brief reminder on Middle East conflicts since 1918.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_conflicts_in_the_Middle_East

    It's impossible to answer the question in the thread title.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    Russia and china won`t allow that I doubt.

    It`s on the sky channel 515 seen lots more world news,with all this unrest going on.

    This with Nato planning an attack in Iran in september what do you think?.

    http://www.presstv.i...tail/192596.htm

    actually if you read the article properly, it is israel who are allegedly planning the september attack, and certainly not verified, as the information comes from the generic "former CIA agent"

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
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    actually if you read the article properly, it is israel who are allegedly planning the september attack, and certainly not verified, as the information comes from the generic "former CIA agent"

    I was asking PP thoughts not yours.

    I know what it read.

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  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl
  • Location: Horsham, West sussex, 52m asl

    I was asking PP thoughts not yours.

    I know what it read.

    sorry, i wasn't aware that you and PP knew of a secret NATO attack

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    The rebels are entering the outskirts of Tripoli now, so Gadaffi could eventually fall but what then? Apparently there are different factions amongst the rebels - will they fight amongst themselves leading to a continued instability in Libya?

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    All over for Gadaffi judging by pictures on Al Jazeera, saying his son Saif has been captured, unconfirmed Tweets that Gadaffi himself is dead.

    He should have left when he had the chance.

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    Al-Jazzera confirming Gaddafi's son has surrendered,

    Eqypt, Libya, Algeria. Surely Assad must know his days are numbered and the end will come eventually?

    Gaddafi very much alive, just been on Al-Jazeera in Audio, says he will stay to the end.

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