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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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    Rather than getting carried away over this the Sryians have also been doing this. Too be honest nothing to get two excited over.

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    There is no other description for what is happening other than war crime and genocide.   Israel is technically the occupying force on Gaza and as such is duty bound to protect civilians.   Complet

    The scenes in Gaza look like the aftermath of a nuclear bomb, utter devastation. The Israelis telling people to go back to their homes in northern Gaza as its "safe", what are they supposed to go back

    Reported on the BBC too... An air strike on an army camp has killed three soldiers, the Syrian government says, blaming the US-led coalition for the attack. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

    Russia has again 'violated' Turkish airspace (wow! like NATO isn't always doing that?) for the second time in 3 days. Bad weather don't you know (well, we should, being as it's a weather board lol)

     

     

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/06/politics/russia-syria-isis/

    And turkey well, Turkish fighters crossed into Greek airspace 20 times.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/turkey-buzzes-weakened-greece-military-airspace/

    Edit:So it is the U.S., not Turkey, which was first pushing the claims of air space violation and of scrambling fighters. The Turkish source would not confirm that.

    But how could it be a real air space violation when Russian planes "flew within five miles of the Turkish border and may have crossed into Turkey’s air space". The Russian planes were flying in Syrian airspace. They "may have crossed" is like saying that the earth "may be flat". Well maybe it is, right?

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/10/russia-violates-turkish-airspace-because-turkey-moved-its-border.html

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  • Location: Tullynessle/Inverurie
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    So according to our esteemed Defense Secretary Michael Fallon, "The Russian intervention in Syria has made a pretty difficult situation much more dangerous.". Probably can't argue too much with that, but his solution? "Mr Fallon also said the government was "slowly building a consensus" among MPs for UK airstrikes over Syria."

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34463181 

     

    Right, well, if Russia putting aircraft over Syria makes the situation "more dangerous", how exactly does the UK adding even more aircraft in Syrian airspace make it less dangerous?

     

    The West is seeing the situation in Syria force-ably ripped from their grasp and taken in a direction they don't like and, much like the MOD thread with a phantom easterly in winter, it's full on toy throwing tantrums now.

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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.

     

     

    Right, well, if Russia putting aircraft over Syria makes the situation "more dangerous", how exactly does the UK adding even more aircraft in Syrian airspace make it less dangerous?

     

     

     

    Obviously it doesn't.

    Personally, I am waiting for a probable false flag event involving Turkey.......   Queue Nato?

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

    Because the matrix controllers have almost total control of mainstream news distribution in the West the truth about female life and education in Afghanistan prior to the US sibversion of that nation in 1979 may seem hard to believe, but a picture is worth a thousand words and multiple picture tend to be convincing. These pictures certainly give the LIE to current Western propaganda:

     

    Afghanistan in the 1970s before the US fomented regime change of the legitimate government.

    The pictures here are incredible.

    https://yandex.ru/images/search?text=afghanistan%20in%2070s

    Before and after,this in the 60`s.

     

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    Afghanistan in the 1970s before the US fomented regime change of the legitimate government.

    The pictures here are incredible.

    https://yandex.ru/images/search?text=afghanistan%20in%2070s

    Before and after,this in the 60`s.

     

     

     

    Any particular reason why you have omitted to mention the Soviet-Afghan War 1979-89 when between 850,000–1.5 million civilians were killed and millions of Afghans fled the country as refugees, mostly to Pakistan and Iran?

     

    Soviet.jpg

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  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level
  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level

    Rather than getting carried away over this the Sryians have also been doing this. Too be honest nothing to get two excited over.

    you must have typed this pretty early in the morning?   :-D

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  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level
  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level

    Afghanistan in the 1970s before the US fomented regime change of the legitimate government.

    The pictures here are incredible.

    https://yandex.ru/images/search?text=afghanistan%20in%2070s

    Before and after,this in the 60`s.

     

    afghanistanimage.jpg

         

     

    they must be very proud of having dragged their country back 400 years. What a damn shame! :-(

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

    So according to our esteemed Defense Secretary Michael Fallon, "The Russian intervention in Syria has made a pretty difficult situation much more dangerous.". Probably can't argue too much with that, but his solution? "Mr Fallon also said the government was "slowly building a consensus" among MPs for UK airstrikes over Syria."

     

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34463181 

     

    Right, well, if Russia putting aircraft over Syria makes the situation "more dangerous", how exactly does the UK adding even more aircraft in Syrian airspace make it less dangerous?

     

    The West is seeing the situation in Syria force-ably ripped from their grasp and taken in a direction they don't like and, much like the MOD thread with a phantom easterly in winter, it's full on toy throwing tantrums now.

    Well the west want to renew and continue the cold war. In the meantime Putin has run rings round them which has put them on the back foot. If the cold war does get fully renewed there won't be a solution for Syria unfortunately.

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.

    they must be very proud of having dragged their country back 400 years. What a damn shame! :-(

    And to this.

    afghani-women.jpg

    The US is behind it all overall.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-afghanistan-to-syria-womens-rights-war-propaganda-and-the-cia/5329665

    It was the US which installed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan in 1996, a foreign policy strategy which resulted in the demise of Afghan women’s rights:

    Before the Taliban came to power, Afghan women lived a life in many ways similar to that of Western women (see pictures below):

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    The latest data on civilian deaths in Syria confirms refugees’ claims that the greatest danger they face is from the regime.

     

    The figures, from the Syrian Network for Human Rights, shows that the Assad regime was responsible for three quarters of civilian deaths in Syria in the first half of the year. Of the 10,345 civilian deaths up to July, 7,894 were at the hands of pro-Assad forces. Isis was the next biggest, killing 1,131.

     

    The human rights group said the regime’s deliberate use of barrel bombs on opposition-controlled civilian areas had caused most of the deaths.

     

    The Assad regime has repeatedly used barrel bombs — oil drums packed with explosives and shrapnel — as a means to clear areas of civilian populations supportive of the opposition.

     

    From which follows most Syrians arriving in Europe are fleeing the Assad regime and not Islamic State, according to the first survey of Syrian refugees arriving in Germany.

     

    Seventy per cent of those who fled the fighting in Syria said that they were escaping violence by the regime.

     

    The survey also showed that most refugees would prefer to return to Syria, but 52 per cent said they would do so only if President Assad were overthrown.

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

    Yesterday was the single heaviest day of bombing since Russia began its aerial campaign last week, with the strikes intended to coincide with the launch of the first significant ground offensive against the anti-regime rebels, co-ordinated between Moscow, Damascus and Tehran.

     

    The attack began on four fronts in northern Hama province, which is controlled by anti-Assad rebels, with Russian warplanes raining down bombs on the same positions. Syrian regular and irregular forces were joined by Hezbollah fighters in the assault, co-ordinated with Iran.

     

    The offensive took place around Latmeen village, the site of Russia’s first airstrikes in Syria last week. The rebels fighting in the area are armed with anti-tank missiles supplied by the US.

     

    So to my simple mind this is all going to plan. Wipe out the Syrian rebels and half the civilian population and leave IS to keep their little piece of the pie as it's of no strategic importance to Russia and no threat to the regime if contained.

     

    This rather ties in with the fact that many jihadists were in Syria prior to the revolt. In fact many of them were in jail and Assad let them all out and helped them form brigades to fight the rebels. In the resulting mayhem al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri ordered Islamic State to form a group and send it to Syria. Of course they also managed to swell their ranks when many sunni rebels became seriously Tut*d off when the west sat back and partook of some serious navel gazing.

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  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl
  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl

    The latest data on civilian deaths in Syria confirms refugees’ claims that the greatest danger they face is from the regime.

     

    The figures, from the Syrian Network for Human Rights, shows that the Assad regime was responsible for three quarters of civilian deaths in Syria in the first half of the year. Of the 10,345 civilian deaths up to July, 7,894 were at the hands of pro-Assad forces. Isis was the next biggest, killing 1,131.

     

    The human rights group said the regime’s deliberate use of barrel bombs on opposition-controlled civilian areas had caused most of the deaths.

     

    The Assad regime has repeatedly used barrel bombs — oil drums packed with explosives and shrapnel — as a means to clear areas of civilian populations supportive of the opposition.

     

    From which follows most Syrians arriving in Europe are fleeing the Assad regime and not Islamic State, according to the first survey of Syrian refugees arriving in Germany.

     

    Seventy per cent of those who fled the fighting in Syria said that they were escaping violence by the regime.

     

    The survey also showed that most refugees would prefer to return to Syria, but 52 per cent said they would do so only if President Assad were overthrown.

     

     

    Yesterday was the single heaviest day of bombing since Russia began its aerial campaign last week, with the strikes intended to coincide with the launch of the first significant ground offensive against the anti-regime rebels, co-ordinated between Moscow, Damascus and Tehran.

     

    The attack began on four fronts in northern Hama province, which is controlled by anti-Assad rebels, with Russian warplanes raining down bombs on the same positions. Syrian regular and irregular forces were joined by Hezbollah fighters in the assault, co-ordinated with Iran.

     

    The offensive took place around Latmeen village, the site of Russia’s first airstrikes in Syria last week. The rebels fighting in the area are armed with anti-tank missiles supplied by the US.

     

    So to my simple mind this is all going to plan. Wipe out the Syrian rebels and half the civilian population and leave IS to keep their little piece of the pie as it's of no strategic importance to Russia and no threat to the regime if contained.

     

    This rather ties in with the fact that many jihadists were in Syria prior to the revolt. In fact many of them were in jail and Assad let them all out and helped them form brigades to fight the rebels. In the resulting mayhem al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri ordered Islamic State to form a group and send it to Syria. Of course they also managed to swell their ranks when many sunni rebels became seriously Tut*d off when the west sat back and partook of some serious navel gazing.

     

    Might Nato take action to protect those civilians fleeing the Assad/Russian onslaught?

    Is a safe zone in northern Syria viable?....... France and Turkey seem to think so.

    and interesting that Nato were today talking about the possibility of sending its rapid deployment force to Turkey if needed.

     

    http://en.etilaf.org/all-news/news/france-says-safe-zone-in-syrian-is-workable.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/28/us-un-assembly-hollande-syria-idUSKCN0RS2D920150928

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  • Location: Camborne
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    Might Nato take action to protect those civilians fleeing the Assad/Russian onslaught?

    Is a safe zone in northern Syria viable?....... France and Turkey seem to think so.

    and interesting that Nato were today talking about the possibility of sending its rapid deployment force to Turkey if needed.

     

    http://en.etilaf.org/all-news/news/france-says-safe-zone-in-syrian-is-workable.html

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/28/us-un-assembly-hollande-syria-idUSKCN0RS2D920150928

     

    I assume Russia would use their veto in the Security Council.

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  • Location: Powys Mid Wales borders.
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    Cover Up as Tory Government Won’t Publish the Legal Basis They Used For Syrian Airstrikes on British Citizens.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/government-refuses-to-publish-legal-basis-for-air-strikes-on-syria-a6687006.html

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  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL
  • Location: Carryduff, County Down 420ft ASL

    Dont you love the democratic United Kingdom?

     

    Goverments getting majorities on less than 50% of the vote.

    Unelected upper chamber

    Unelected Head of State

    Unelected Judges

    Secret courts

    etc...

     

    Democracy my erchie.

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  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl
  • Location: Bramley, Hampshire, 70m asl

    Rocket sirens going off in southern Israel tonight following clashes (and fatalities) on border with Gaza strip

    Hamas leader declares Intifada.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/rocket-sirens-sound-in-southern-israel-3/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/israel-opens-fire-palestinians-gaza-border-151009114132806.html

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  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level
  • Location: Bedworth, North Warwickshire 404ft above sea level
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  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold. Enjoy all extremes though.
  • Location: Lochgelly - Highest town in Fife at 150m ASL.
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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
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    Sucide bomber targets kurds in Turkey http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34495161 could isis or government backed terror group

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  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)
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  • Location: Haute Vienne, Limousin, France (404m ASL)

    Sucide bomber targets kurds in Turkey http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34495161 could isis or government backed terror group

    The reports are heartbreaking to watch/listen to, so many wonderful people trying their best to reform their society, and a lot of them very young too.

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    I feel like I`m in the twilight zone after watching this video.

    BBC masterclass on how to interview a politician trying to justify war crimes.

    http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/news/bbc-masterclass-on-how-to-interview-a-politician-trying-to-justify-war-crimes

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