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The plea by the mother is probably one that every carer is having to face or at least understands.

It's okay for Cameron go blathering on about ring fencing but if the councils hasn't got the money it hasn't got it. The whole system of care is about saving money and blocking carers access to help. This is hidden behind the excuse "Our job is to keep the patient at home as it their right"

With the present funding cuts anyone starting out on the journey is going to have a much worse time than I did. Homes closing, Day centres closing the costs for care rising it's going to be very difficult.

Anyway David's pathetic rambling included one final insult. He seems to think that we don't put people into care because we want to save the Government money. Sorry David we don't put people into care until the last minute because we love them. Want we want is some help as we look after them. Increased respite (Can't be done when homes are closing) for cases where it's suitable and extra holidays for carers where it isn't. The cost saving the Government makes by don't care in the community would easily pay for those extra weeks and they'd still say money.

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I do feel for Ms Vincent and the thousand of others in her position.

This Government is simply caught between a rock and hard place.

The country is skint. If they don't sort out the deficit now, in ten years we won't have anything as the country will be bankcrupt.

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I do feel for Ms Vincent and the thousand of others in her position.

This Government is simply caught between a rock and hard place.

The country is skint. If they don't sort out the deficit now, in ten years we won't have anything as the country will be bankcrupt.

You can't throw people on the scrap heap because they are either ill or handicapped. Charity begins at home so the first thing out is those wars that cost the fortune.

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You can't throw people on the scrap heap because they are either ill or handicapped. Charity begins at home so the first thing out is those wars that cost the fortune.

David Cameron didn't start any wars.

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David Cameron didn't start any wars.

So if he still continues them what is the difference.

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So if he still continues them what is the difference.

You are very naive if you think you can just walk away - it would put 100,000s of civilian lives at risk. The stated aim is to get out when conditions are right which is good enough for me.

The one thing that Iraq and to a lesser extent Afghanistan will bring to government here (whoever is at the wheel) is that they will think a lot more carefully in future and only commit our resources and personnel if an urgent and direct threat is hanging over the UK.

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Your naive if you think Cameron really cares what happens to the people in Afghanistan. That's why we're starting the cut and run already. If they were really bothered we'd still be fully in Iraq and wouldn't be thinking about leaving Afghanistan for a very long time.

Anyway drifting from the original subject.

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You are very naive if you think you can just walk away - it would put 100,000s of civilian lives at risk. The stated aim is to get out when conditions are right which is good enough for me.

The one thing that Iraq and to a lesser extent Afghanistan will bring to government here (whoever is at the wheel) is that they will think a lot more carefully in future and only commit our resources and personnel if an urgent and direct threat is hanging over the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/sep/06/september11.iraq

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This topic is primarily about the care system in the UK and the lack of respite care and support available to those that need help.

It is NOT about the war in Iraq war, the war in Afghanistan or 9/11.

Any further off topic posts will be removed.

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The plea by the mother is probably one that every carer is having to face or at least understands.

It's okay for Cameron go blathering on about ring fencing but if the councils hasn't got the money it hasn't got it. The whole system of care is about saving money and blocking carers access to help. This is hidden behind the excuse "Our job is to keep the patient at home as it their right"

With the present funding cuts anyone starting out on the journey is going to have a much worse time than I did. Homes closing, Day centres closing the costs for care rising it's going to be very difficult.

Anyway David's pathetic rambling included one final insult. He seems to think that we don't put people into care because we want to save the Government money. Sorry David we don't put people into care until the last minute because we love them. Want we want is some help as we look after them. Increased respite (Can't be done when homes are closing) for cases where it's suitable and extra holidays for carers where it isn't. The cost saving the Government makes by don't care in the community would easily pay for those extra weeks and they'd still say money.

David Cameron and this goverment has little or no understanding of what many many carers in this country have to go through to achieve what is best for those being cared for. Cameron will bring up the fact that he had a disabled child but he didn't have to rely on the state for support he had an army of carers paid for by his fortune very few have that luxury. Is it a fact that these cuts hit those most reliant on the state in a very unfair way they have no alternatives. Many clubs and other facilities are being closed that would have been used and relied upon by disabled people because it costs more per head of user and being a small group with little mainstream understanding they are easy targets.There are instances where a disabled child has transport to take them to school on a monday and are then collected on a friday and boarding in between but if they are ill and unable to go on the monday the authority will not take them until the following monday meaning not only does the child miss 4 days schooling but a parent has to take a week of work.

I wish Riven Vincent all the best and I hope she gets the help she needs but the media has already demonstrated how little it cares by the lack of any meaning follow up to the state of our services provided to those in most need

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