Birds falling out of the sky, fish dead in the sea

[The PIT]

Trying to work out how updraughts/hail storms kill just one species of fish.

The problem now will be extracting fact from fiction.

[A.J]

on a lighter side...

Q) What should you do if a bird falls out of the sky and poops on your windscreen??

A) Call her a dirty slag & don't date her again!

I'll fetch my coat

[Backtrack]

Trying to work out how updraughts/hail storms kill just one species of fish.

The problem now will be extracting fact from fiction.

The hailstorm wouldn't of killed the fish. More likely the aftermath of the oil spill, or hypothermia from very cold water.

Edited January 5, 2011 by Backtrack

[ZONE 51]

Trying to work out how updraughts/hail storms kill just one species of fish.

The problem now will be extracting fact from fiction.

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Was it those Flying Fish?

[Gray-Wolf]

The fish are probably a virus tagetting just that species (barrel fish?). The Birds, as I've already postulated (and had Paul confirm) are 'weather related'.

[Beverley Lass]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344913/Animal-death-mystery-Two-MILLION-dead-fish-wash-Maryland-bay.html

Awww, now it's Collared Doves dropping dead from the

sky in Italy.

BL

[Coast]

Hmmm, not sure if its just increased public awareness and slow days for the media, or if this is indeed a set of unusual linked events caused by natural phenomena:

• December 30 - fish started washing up along the sides of the Arkansas River resulting in an est 100,000 total dead.
  
• December 30 - over 100 tons of dead fish, sardines, croakers, and cat fish wash ashore in Rio De Janerio.
  
• December 31 - Bebe, Arkansas saw thousands of dead birds, red winged blackbirds.
  
• January 1 - Kentucky, hundreds of dead birds near Murray State University.
  
• January 4 - Point Coupee Parish, Louisiana, 500 dead birds, red wing blackbirds, found along highway.
  
• January 4 - hundreds of dead fish wash up on the shores of St Clair River Sania, Ontario, Canada.
  
• January 4 - Volusia County, Florida, thousands of dead fish on the banks of Spruce Creek.
  
• January 5 - 2 million dead fish in Chesapeake Bay in Maryland.
  
• January 5 - 200 dead birds in Tyler Texas.
  
• January 5 - Wilson, Tennessee, 150 dead birds.
  
• January 5 - Falkoeping, West Sweden, 50 - 100 dead birds, crows, found on a street in that city.
  
• January 5 - Kent, 40,000 dead velvet swimming crabs, starfish, lobsters & sponges washed ashore along Thanet.
  
• January 5 - New Zealand, hundreds of red snapper washed ashore.
  
• January 6 - thousands of dead fish washed ashore on Folly Beach in South Carolina,
  
• January 6 - 8,000 turtle doves fall dead in Italy
  

A couple of things that may link the two are the more unusual weather conditions this winter, or perhaps that birds and fish are very migratory and use the earth magnetic fields to help navigate?

http://www.t2conline.com/news-room/headliners/1114-moving-magnetic-north-pole-may-be-the-cause-of-mysterious-bird-a-fish-deaths

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/07/magnetic-north-pole-shift-affects-tampa-airport/

[Paul Sherman]

Robin

You need to change the Bebe One to Arkansas from Alaska Mate or that would go down as the Biggest Tornado Producing Supercell to ever hit Alaska :w00t:

But that list is amazing, does anyone know wether the Dead Fish in the US Have deliberately been posioned, there seems to be alot in the Contingual USA, Has someone or a group of people got a vendetta against an organisation for instance ?

[Coast]

Robin

You need to change the Bebe One to Arkansas from Alaska Mate or that would go down as the Biggest Tornado Producing Supercell to ever hit Alaska :w00t:

Sorted bud, it was a listing I took from elsewhere and should have checked! Do these areas have any connection geographically? (obviously not all on the same continent)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jUMR9hgvvvjAem8_8-v5V9Ow-nug?docId=eb2eb78242fe4290a414e0644cda18a6

The reality, say biologists, is that these mass die-offs happen all the time and usually are unrelated. Federal records show they happen on average every other day somewhere in North America. Usually, we don't notice them and don't try to link them to each other. "They generally fly under the radar," said ornithologist John Wiens, chief scientist at the California research institution PRBO Conservation Science.

Weather — cold and wet weather like in Arkansas New Year's Eve when the birds fell out of the sky — is often associated with mass bird deaths, ornithologists say. Pollution, parasites and disease also cause mass deaths. Some are even blaming fireworks for the blackbird deaths.

So what's happening this time?

Blame technology, says famed Harvard biologist E.O. Wilson. With the Internet, cell phones and worldwide communications, people are noticing events, connecting the dots more. "This instant and global communication, it's just a human instinct to read mystery and portents of dangers and wondrous things in events that are unusual," Wilson told The Associated Press on Thursday. "Not to worry, these are not portents that the world is about to come to an end."

[PersianPaladin]

1000's of species are lost each year because of the actions of human industrial civilization; yet..a few bird and fish deaths get people completely paranoid and conspiratorial.

Edited January 7, 2011 by PersianPaladin

[coldfingers]

Just a result of the media feverishly hunting up every possible case of dead fish or birds. They will find plenty more in coming weeks.

All the fish died in the local Rife a few times since I was in Bognor. Once industrial pollution, 2nd time incursion of sea water into river, 3rd time effluent getting into river after flooding I think.

Of course it could be the aliens causing the humans to lose their minds and make mistakes in the management of the river I suppose.

Edited January 7, 2011 by coldfingers

[dogs32]

makes me laugh to be honest..

The media get hold of this and make it out to be something it isnt..

IF you check this happens every year with these birds..

check out how the leader of the pack can and does commit suicide by accident due to there poor eye sight...

Where ever the leader goes the pack follow..

Hard to believe,like I say check the scientific facts....been happening for centuries..LOL

Including frogs from the sky and thousands of crabs washed up on the shores..

nothing new...

If you dont believe me look into the species of the birds and there habitat.. :lol:

can be all explained with some decent research

Edited January 7, 2011 by dogs32

[Zenarcher]

This is the only story I can find that actually tries to explain it more.

The first radar image here shows the mysterious circular echo developing at 10:26pm, December 31st right over Beebe. Note the brighter colors in the center of the echo. That's a large concentration of...something...rising into the air. A few scans later, the echo fades, only to appear again just after midnight in the same spot. Was it birds? No large fires were reported in Beebe from 9pm through 1am that night. So we can rule out the smoke theory. The fireworks theory may have spooked the birds, but fireworks would be too small to show up on radar. Besides, there were not 4 separate fireworks shows in the same location lasting 20 minutes each in Beebe, Arkansas on New Years Eve.

We are reasonably certain that these strange radar "plumes" are birds. So, what made them fall from the sky? The first reports of dead birds came in to Beebe authorities right around 11:30pm on New Years Eve. The first bird flights that appeared on radar took place just after 9pm. No bird deaths from those first take-offs.

Our first clue may be found on on the second image posted here. This is an image of "spectrum width" or "turbulence" taken at 10:21 pm on December 31, 2010. Spectrum width is a measure of the differences in object speeds within each pixel on the radar. In other words, as birds dart back and forth in different directions from each other, radar would show a high Spectrum Width in that area. In the second 3D doppler image, the orange and red areas are areas where the birds are taking flight in the air, moving at variables speeds, and directions near each other. Black birds don't like to fly very high. The flying flock is located below 2,500 hundred feet in the image. But, now notice the orange bullseye of turbulence just above the main flock between about 7,000 and 12,000 feet. this is the only image that contains this "plume" so high up in the atmosphere.

CONCLUSION: Remember, red-winged blackbirds have poor eyesight. They don't fly at night. If the birds were startled by loud noises, such as celebratory New Years Eve fireworks in Beebe, they would have left their earthly roost to take flight. What if some of the birds became disoriented from stress and darkness and actually flew straight up, high in the sky as our turbulence image suggests? Those birds may have literally "passed out" due to lower oxygen levels and then fell to the ground. Just after this spectrum width image appeared on radar, residents began seeing birds fall from the sky. Hmmm...

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/weather/weather_news/mass-bird-deaths-keep-mounting,-arkansas-flock-captured-on-doppler-radar

[dogs32]

the birds had bleeding in the chest....signs of a collision..

Scientist who works with Christopher Hawkings said he believes the birds flew straight into the ground as they followed the leader of the pack....

Often happens with this species

mass suicide by accident

Edited January 8, 2011 by dogs32

[Snowangel-MK]

Aflockalypse not Apocalypse.......

Birds falling out of the sky in the United States and Sweden are freak examples of the kind of mass animal deaths, from beached whales to deluges of frogs, that have unusual but not apocalyptic causes, experts say.

Storms, hail or lightning can kill birds while tornadoes or waterspouts may suck up small fish from far away. Human causes, such as fireworks, power lines or a collision with a truck, may explain avian deaths.

The U.N. Environmental Programme (UNEP) urged more research into baffling deaths -- ranging from why whales sometimes make the fatal mistake of swimming onto beaches to recent bird deaths.

[Cookie]

Its the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

[Snowyowl9]

Fascinating how birds and fish travel by magnetic flow.

No doubt about it those starlings here that very fine warm feb 2008.

I`ve never seen so many here ever doing there outstanding displays each late afternoon,it was like clockwork same time every day on those stunning febs days.

There were so many on the branches as they were cracking on some trees,the weight there were so many.

[Snowyowl9]

A couple of links here looks like a connection and not a nice one.

http://www.naturalnews.com/030996_bird_deaths_pole_shift.html

http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2011/02/scientist-predict-magnetic-pole-shift.html

Edited March 6, 2011 by Snowyowl9

[Snow Queen one]

The last article if proven is really rather worrying.

[Essan]

LOL! just been commenting on that on ATS

We've seen lots of noctilucent clouds in recent summers - how many have coincided with mass animal deaths? :winky: This doesn't disprove the hypothesis but it would need some corroboration to end it any credency.

Still, a good excuse to go noctie hunting again this year Just in case!

[Snowyowl9]

I`ve never seen these clouds,only in books.

Maybe I did in the late 80`s that one night.

It didn`t look like northern lights as such..

Check the moon out tonight on it`s back.

[coldfingers]

Check the moon out tonight on it`s back.

They have a saying in Sussex, "moon on it's back, snow in it's lap." Not found it particularly accurate though but we do seem to get snow in Feb/Mar when the moon is usually on it's back.

[Coast]

Millions of sardines created a massive stink and an even bigger cleanup effort in Redondo Beach's King Harbor Marina on Tuesday after they swam inside overnight, became trapped and died.

Twelve to 18 inches of dead sardines blanketed the water's bottom in Basin 1 off Marina Way. Another thick layer of dead fish coated the surface from the breakwall to the inner docks, surrounding boats and walkways.

Authorities with the California Department of Fish and Game, along with other ocean biologists at the scene, declared the mass death a natural event. The fish, they said, sucked every drop of oxygen from the water and couldn't breathe.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_17564875?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1

[Rainy]

Coldfingers. Saying round here -- Moon on it's back, ready to catch water, ie rain on the way. .

We don't need any more rain for weeks. Things were just starting to improve having had a week's dry weather. Now back to sqaure one with 10mm overnight.

Probably off topic I suppose.

[Snowyowl9]

Just seen this on the news on the fish.

Did have a link but gone.