North West Cold Spell Discussion

[snowingtequila]

heavy snow been falling for the last 4o mins here, temperature droppped markedly as well. Can see a lovely clearance to the west now in time to watch the sun go down in a few minutes,

[James M]

Been brilliant here today, snow stopped now and temp starting to fall slightly. Hasn't been above 0.1°C, but just missed out on an ice day, it's quite strange that considering it's been snow cold and snowy during this spell of weather we've only had one ice day, but I suppose you can't have everything!

[Upgrade]

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/yh/yh_forecast_warnings.html

FLASH WARNING UPDATED FOR TOMORROW BY MET OFFICE. MORE SNOW ON THE WAY.

[chris78]

http://www.metoffice...t_warnings.html

FLASH WARNING UPDATED FOR TOMORROW BY MET OFFICE. MORE SNOW ON THE WAY.

Think tomorrows warning just refers to icy roads am.

[V for Very Cold]

I do quick like the fact we have a flash warning that there might be some icy roads tomorrow, following a faily good avoidance of manetioning snow for the last cpl of days lol

Seriously - anyone got any news of any more snow - the flash runs til 6pm - what then?

[SP1986]

Temperature is falling fast now I think with the hail settling and freezing now we could have really cold overnight!

[chris78]

cant see where any more snow would come from ....is cold the best hope for tonight.....and with that westerly even with the clear skies will temps not be up ...currently 2.8 here

[Snowmad79]

Did this morning streamers last all day on and off and past us ? looks like theres atleast a few inches if not more topped up. its got to be around 10 inches in places now and thats without the drifts.

[snowingtequila]

interesting movement of clouds at the moment, the clouds that are over me are coming in from the north north west, as are the clouds behind the clearance however, under this layer of clouds are others moving much faster in from due south which at first I thought were chimney smoke but aren't! Maybe someone clever could temm what is happening

[SP1986]

the winds will turn southwest for the south of the region so it will drop rather low here.

Its already 2.4 here and dropping at a rate of 1.4C/hr

[dodge]

Managed to get away from work early today. I work in Manchester and we know by now the appreciable period of snowfall that occurred around lunchtime for a hour or so. Returned back too the frozen wastelands of Oldham lol - and the sidestreets are really treacherous. Think I've about 6-7 (15cm's) inches now.

Jobs a good 'un

I don't know about anyone else, but I can officially say, since I started following the weather around early 20's, this is now the snowiest period I've witnessed. Probably had this kind of setup every other winter during the 80's, but I was just a kid then, and didn't pay attention to snow depths lol

[SP1986]

since I started following the weather around early 20's

I didnt know you were that old

(only joking)

[AderynCoch]

Nothing special round here. So far it's the biggest snow event since... February 2009!

I hate marginal synoptics.

[toggerob]

interesting movement of clouds at the moment, the clouds that are over me are coming in from the north north west, as are the clouds behind the clearance however, under this layer of clouds are others moving much faster in from due south which at first I thought were chimney smoke but aren't! Maybe someone clever could temm what is happening

Sounds like a localised convergence zone, or possible a area of Forced Uplift taking places around the Inflow/Outflow boundary of the cells your Under.

[dodge]

I didnt know you were that old

(only joking)

lol - sorry, phrased it wrong, should have read 'in my early 20's'

[les1234]

What is peoples opinions on here about us keeping this cold spell or returning to the mild wet weather,I have been watching the model discussion but it seems no one on there can agree what is going to happen but i think it would be great if we could stay in this cold spell at least till after boxing day.

[Snowmad79]

Im not so sure we will be dominated by a SW wind .. maybe the slightest of breezes. Looking at the sat and latest fax the LP core to our north looks to be still the more dominant core atm rather than the one to the south . Saying that the latest faxes dont have the secondry core to the SW until tomorrow but its clearly visible now on satalite. Hopefully that moves swiftly to the east or NE.

@ Les

Tis to difficult to say right now, after looking at the charts this morning the ECM looked the worse in the short term with the GFS being the best solution for continued cold. The good thing was the UKMO looked to be more similar to the GFS with the LP moving east rather than stalling in the reliable time frame which in a way would be the key to lasting cold or mild SWerlies that the ECM wanted.

Ps. Snowing heavy

with HUGE flakes !

12z GFS pretty much the same as 00z .. Nerly , Northerly reload followed by easterly ( sausaged LP to the south of the uk) retrogressing HP in the atlantic with WWA and is soon over the Icleand area. After that its deep FI and sinks the HP.

The ensembles Show that we wain in and out of -5 hpa air until around the 29th and that when the scatter starts with the members but by 1st of jan there slightly more agreement for a dip towards the

-10 850's again.

Edited December 22, 2009 by Snowmad79

[chris78]

with regards to the streamers from the Irish sea that at times have seemed to appear from nowhere....are conditions looking like being right for them to keep forming over the next day or so ????

Edited December 22, 2009 by chris78

[V for Very Cold]

and it's started snowing again

[snowingtequila]

the netweather forecast gives me heavy snow flurries at midnight tomorrow should be interesting, they also forecast sleet for me today!

[Thundery wintry showers]

What is peoples opinions on here about us keeping this cold spell or returning to the mild wet weather,I have been watching the model discussion but it seems no one on there can agree what is going to happen but i think it would be great if we could stay in this cold spell at least till after boxing day.

Turning milder with a thaw on Boxing Day looks the most likely assessment although upland parts of the North West will probably hold onto their snow cover. After Boxing Day it may well turn colder again.

[Backtrack]

Seems to be a heavy band of snow affecting N Ireland and Scotland, any chance that will track down over the night, hence the warning being upgraded on the met office website?

I bloody hope so :lol:

But winds aint Northerly, so i dont think so.

[Cheese Rice]

The winds have turned north/North Westerly!! This is unforecasted and that could mean a surprise snowfall for many!

Edited December 22, 2009 by 10123

[chris78]

with regards to the streamers from the Irish sea that at times have seemed to appear from nowhere....are conditions looking like being right for them to keep forming over the next day or so ????

Oh looks like there still going for now new blob on the 16.30 just west of me

[Backtrack]

The winds have turned north/North Westerly!! This is unforecasted and that could mean a surprise snowfall for many!

Looks like there's a group of showers are merging and pepping up in the Irish Sea. They are on course to hit here with that NNW wind.