October (and November) Weather Lore

[Coast]

The earlier you look and shout about

The more the chances of getting nowt

If the GFS shows Easterly snow

You know the direction you must go

[BLAST FROM THE PAST]

I think the one regarding leaves hanging on the bough is a goody. I think it signals the quiet Atlantic with blocking likely to be prevalent...hence cold.

If in October you trample over an abundance of conker

The following winter will be a stonker!

If in ebb,

the solar magnetic tide

Through Dec Jan Feb

you'll slip and slide

If in flo

Forget the ride

There'll be no snow

Let IB be the guide!

BFTP

[Methuselah]

If October endeth with a bite,

the winter'll be a load of ....!

[suffolkboy_]

If it's mild according to Tommy Tucker,

The the winter's going to be a real cold affair.

Haha, I love it!

[Summer of 95]

Oak trees round here never seem to lose their leaves till at least mid-November (often they've still got some into December).

The one about Halloween cold/Christmas mild and wet and vice versa certainly worked very well in for instance 1997 and 2000, allowing for an error of a few days; but overall I think it seems no more trustworthy than the Groundhog Day one (ie it often reflects a tendency, but can't be relied upon every time).

I noticed a few years back that very warm Octobers often preceded cold Decembers (2006 was the first time in 50-odd years this one failed), but the reverse (cold Oct=warm Dec) isn't true.

For a rhyme, however, I often think we can rely upon:

For each November flake of snow

A January Atlantic Low

[LomondSnowstorm]

regardless of whether october cold is rife,

there will nonetheless be no snow in fife!

Edited October 20, 2009 by cwpiper

[Methuselah]

If October ends with slush and muck,

Yule-Tide time's as wet as....

[Portland Paul]

Mid November, warm and dandy,

Christmas needing warming brandy.

Mild zonality present in mid November will last for eight out of the following ten weeks!

[I remember Atlantic 252]

if 0ctober and November be snow and frost,

January and February will be open and mild

saw as a saying in a weather book

[Altohumorous]

If it's mild according to Tommy Tucker,

The the winter's going to be a real cold affair.

Heh heh :lol:

Some great ones above there lads and lasses.

If a november polar high does come, the winter polar lows will run...........

If a polar low in November appears, 'twill be the coldest winter for years!

[jethro]

Wednesday (11th November) is the feast day of St Martin, folklore says where the wind lies that day, it will remain for the rest of the winter.

Any sign of a Northerly for Wednesday?

[LomondSnowstorm]

Wednesday (11th November) is the feast day of St Martin, folklore says where the wind lies that day, it will remain for the rest of the winter.

Any sign of a Northerly for Wednesday?

It looks more of a southerly really

I will have to investigate this a bit further to see if there is an ounce of truth in that phrase (a.k.a a good excuse to waste time looking at old synoptic charts!!)

edit: well '46 was a south-westerly so the track record isn't great so far!

Having said that '62 has a continental high dominating and easterly wind for most of the UK.

My conclusion is, unsurprisingly, that, like most folklore, this is more often wrong than right. Let's hope it's wrong this year as well!

Edited November 9, 2009 by LomondSnowstorm

[blitzen]

:o BB!

If October berries, there be many;

Christmas snow, there'll be not any!

But if October berries be sparse and tetchie;

There will be no leccy in Inversneckie!

[The watcher]

Wind it whistles, through the trees, Tornados coming, get on your knees

Guy Foxes night with wet and wind,

The next weeks model runs should be binned.

No snow in Autumn but wind and rain,

Christmas cold will be insane.

Rockin robins sparsely seen,

Autumn will be largely green.

A dry start to December,

Later brings a storm to remember.

[jethro]

It looks more of a southerly really

I will have to investigate this a bit further to see if there is an ounce of truth in that phrase (a.k.a a good excuse to waste time looking at old synoptic charts!!)

edit: well '46 was a south-westerly so the track record isn't great so far!

Having said that '62 has a continental high dominating and easterly wind for most of the UK.

My conclusion is, unsurprisingly, that, like most folklore, this is more often wrong than right. Let's hope it's wrong this year as well!

Straw clutching here...

The change over from Julian to Gregorian calendar would make the original date 1st November; apparently if Geese walk on ice on St Martin's day, they'll waddle through mud at Christmas.

Let me guess, winds from the South West on the 1st?

[Methuselah]

But if October berries be sparse and tetchie;

There will be no leccy in Inversneckie!

:o

When ground be wet and spring like jelly;

Yule-tide drifts will claim Lochgelly!

[blitzen]

When ground be wet and spring like jelly;

Yule-tide drifts will claim Lochgelly!

Bring it on! Do you work hard at being a silly sod or does it just come naturally? :lol:

Edited November 10, 2009 by Blitzen

[Methuselah]

Bring it on! Do you work hard at being a silly sod or does it just come naturally?

It comes quite naturally B, believe me...

When Johnny Cash comes back to life;

Winter snows will fall on Fife...

His family-line did originate in the Kingdom!

[cyclonic happiness]

When the snow lies deeply upon the ground.

The meto's forecast will turn around.

Edited November 10, 2009 by cyclonic happiness

[damianslaw]

Not sure if this is one -

If November ice bears a duck

Christmas will be all slush and muck

Suggesting that a cold spell in November foretells a mild wet christmas.

Not sure I agree with this.

I don't know many November sayings other than my own -

No sun

No warmth

November

[Methuselah]

When only two are on the forum;

Curse O'Bartlett be afore'em...