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  • Location: Blackburn, Lancs
  • Location: Blackburn, Lancs
Hi V.P. !

Hope your OK?

Getting back to things.I can't help but notice that in the area that is purported to show the impacts of AGW first (the higher latitudes) the more 'simplistic model' (the flat ocean basin in the Arctic) has us ahead of times in the impacts we were 'expecting' to witness.

Google Arctic melt and you can see that in 05' folk were still mooting 50 to 100yrs for a complete summer melt out of the pack and yet here we are.

Do the same for 'Arctic Amplification' and read the late nineties papers, not due for a number of years yet eh?

So, in the area we expected human induced climate chaos to impact first we were in the ball park with the impacts but miles out with the rapidity of our impacts.

The rest of the globe?

The tropics are expanding, the polar Jet is shifting north, storm tracks are shifting north, mountain glaciers are melting out, permanent snow caps are dissapearing, species are retreating upslope to keep up with the environmental shifts in sub/tropical uplands.

<_<

Sorry GW but the polar jet as been shifting south, storm tracks south, mountain glaicers are both receeding and expanding, etc, etc, etc. Come on GW don't take us all for fools, cherry picking at it's finest, hey!!!!!!!!!

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  • Location: Rochester, Kent
  • Location: Rochester, Kent
Hi V.P. !

Hope your OK?

Getting back to things.I can't help but notice that in the area that is purported to show the impacts of AGW first (the higher latitudes) the more 'simplistic model' (the flat ocean basin in the Arctic) has us ahead of times in the impacts we were 'expecting' to witness.

Google Arctic melt and you can see that in 05' folk were still mooting 50 to 100yrs for a complete summer melt out of the pack and yet here we are.

Do the same for 'Arctic Amplification' and read the late nineties papers, not due for a number of years yet eh?

So, in the area we expected human induced climate chaos to impact first we were in the ball park with the impacts but miles out with the rapidity of our impacts.

The rest of the globe?

The tropics are expanding, the polar Jet is shifting north, storm tracks are shifting north, mountain glaciers are melting out, permanent snow caps are dissapearing, species are retreating upslope to keep up with the environmental shifts in sub/tropical uplands.

<_<

Yeah, not bad, thanks. Interesting ideas, and , not only that, they all have a point ...

When you talk of non-linear mathematics one is always interested in the extremes; these help to define the environment. So, whilst others might dismiss such ideas, I see them as a clue, to the truth.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Disgraceful. Again.

Yeah, yeah - we've been here before, huh?

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  • Location: Aviemore
  • Location: Aviemore

Ho hum, locking this for now at least to give us a chance to sort it out. It's quite sad how apparently intelligent adults can act in such a childish manner at times.

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