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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Genuinely not sure what this 'agreement' business has to do with anything?http://www.netweather.tv/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/cc_confused.gif Neither expect or want a 'pat on the back' from you for anything. Hardly natural is it?

    In fact, it just might be that, sometimes, no reply or comment to follow at all might be better...and much more normal . Much as most posters receive.

    Back on topic ....

    ...that link I just placed from NASA stresses that as as yet there is nothing 'abnormal' about C24. The cycle seems to be behaving in a 'Dalton' like way from my reading of it, but again we have to wait and see. The Corona is indicated as a feature of all but the deepest min cycles - might be worth digging around to try and find out a bit more about this.

    Well, that's good. Thank God for that!!!:cray:

    And yes, from a purely scientific basis, I agree with you; this 'minimum' is something we've not witnessed for a while.

    How do you explain it? :D

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    Just a few pics from early this morning at West Sands, St. Andrews  First one was 100iso eq @ f1.8 and 10 sec exposure, strong moonlight about midnight with the faintest of hint of an aurora.

    From Salon on the Isle Of Rum & The Isle Of Lewis tonight. Credit; Martin Keivers and Emma Mitchell.  

    More shots here from Scotland last night. Fingers crossed again tonight as there is another predicted Kp7 ☺

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    Posted
  • Location: South of Glasgow 55.778, -4.086, 86m
  • Location: South of Glasgow 55.778, -4.086, 86m

    Em, Pete, I am no expert on such matters, but it seems to me that the authors of a goodly number of international scientific research papers, and (more importantly) over a thousand posts in this thread, would be a tad surprised and not a little dismayed if NSSC had had the definitive answer to your question all this time, and just not shared it with us. Or did I miss something?

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    Now I'm getting on a bit - memory not what it used to be and all that - but that bit seems to contradict something I'm sure I read in early 2008. I'm sure Mr Hathaway stated then that C24 wasn't abnormal but if things hadn't picked up by January 2009 then it might start to cause some concern amongst solar physicists.

    I reckon Mr Hathaway's going to need a really good chiropractor as his back must be shot to pieces with the amount of times he has shifted the goalposts!!!!

    yep i remember that statement made so your memory is spot on.:yahoo:

    but the minimum as it stands goes on but i place my bets and say the milestone where waiting for wont happen i gotta feeling some activity is brewing:cray:

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Location: Manchester

    One more spot free day! :yahoo: Have we moved up the chart today?

    The only concern is that there are many coronal holes currently (according to spaceweather.com) so I hope that's not a sign of activity.

    Karyo

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  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent

    One more spot free day! :yahoo: Have we moved up the chart today?

    The only concern is that there are many coronal holes currently (according to spaceweather.com) so I hope that's not a sign of activity.

    Karyo

    Forecast remains low - hopeful we can squueze a few more days from this run

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Location: Manchester

    Forecast remains low - hopeful we can squueze a few more days from this run

    Fingers crossed! We only need a few more days to beat the longest spot free run of this minimum and enter the top 5 since records begun!

    Karyo

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Still on 45 spotless days according to http://solarcycle24.com/ .

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  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent

    Joint 7th now

    If we get to Sunday we will be joint 4th on the all time list

    Then it is

    54 days - 3rd

    69 days - 2nd

    92 days - 1st

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    We have moved onto 46 spotless days according to http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm .

    Which put us at 6th on spotless runs since 1849 according to http://users.telenet...s/Spotless.html . Interesting that they say they will updating the spotless day page in early September.

    Maybe it will include the run of 50+ days last year, if it has been declared official.

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  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert

    Being a radio amateur operator, this lack of sunspots and solar flares really is depressing. I'm glad, though, others are enjoying the blank Sun. IAt this rate, it'll be ranked amongst the unique periods of inactivity!

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  • Location: Worthing West Sussex
  • Location: Worthing West Sussex

    Being a radio amateur operator, this lack of sunspots and solar flares really is depressing. I'm glad, though, others are enjoying the blank Sun. IAt this rate, it'll be ranked amongst the unique periods of inactivity!

    If this deep minimum had happened fifty years ago, when the greatest sunspot maximum of the C20 was going on, would the amateur radio movement ever have got off the ground as it did? How would it have changed society?

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  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL
  • Location: Upper Tweeddale, Scottish Borders 240m ASL

    What's the link Mondy? (Do excuse my ignorance of all things radio-hammy :D)

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Moved onto 47 spotless days according to http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm. That puts us joint 5th in spotless days since 1849 according to http://users.telenet.be/j.janssens/Spotless/Spotless.html

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    So we have entered the top 5? Amazing! Posted Image

    Karyo

    Yep, and if we move onto 48, then that would put us alone in 5th place.

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  • Location: Norton, Stockton-on-Tees
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and cold in winter, warm and sunny in summer
  • Location: Norton, Stockton-on-Tees

    ExcellentPosted Image The outlook continues to look quiet as well

    *she says touching wood*

    Oh well done Tamara, now we'll have one tomorrow!!! :rolleyes::help:

    Just one more week and it puts this current run into the top 3.

    I don't know if this has been posted before but I just found it:

    http://www.gopexiles.com/?p=2760

    Interesting little snippet although I remain to be sold on the "2c range" aspect. That said, unless the sun goes crazy over the next couple of years I believe we will be looking at an amplitude of between 50 and 70 for cycle 24, which, IMHO, is bound to have a cooling effect on global temps. Enough to counteract AGW? I think yes, and then a little bit more.

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  • Location: just behind Epsom Racecourse and the center of York
  • Location: just behind Epsom Racecourse and the center of York

    Oh well done Tamara, now we'll have one tomorrow!!! :rolleyes::help:

    Just one more week and it puts this current run into the top 3.

    I don't know if this has been posted before but I just found it:

    http://www.gopexiles.com/?p=2760

    Interesting little snippet although I remain to be sold on the "2c range" aspect. That said, unless the sun goes crazy over the next couple of years I believe we will be looking at an amplitude of between 50 and 70 for cycle 24, which, IMHO, is bound to have a cooling effect on global temps. Enough to counteract AGW? I think yes, and then a little bit more.

    If we accept that low sunspot activity can have a cooling effect on global temperatures why can't we accept that the opposite may be true ie high sunspot activity can have a warming effect on global temperatures thus explaining to a large extent why we have had so called global warming. Just a thought!!

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    ExcellentPosted Image The outlook continues to look quiet as well

    *she says touching wood*

    Indeed it does, and the fact that all the experts have no idea when it will end, how long could it go on for???

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    Oh well done Tamara, now we'll have one tomorrow!!! Posted ImagePosted Image

    Just one more week and it puts this current run into the top 3.

    I don't know if this has been posted before but I just found it:

    http://www.gopexiles.com/?p=2760

    Interesting little snippet although I remain to be sold on the "2c range" aspect. That said, unless the sun goes crazy over the next couple of years I believe we will be looking at an amplitude of between 50 and 70 for cycle 24, which, IMHO, is bound to have a cooling effect on global temps. Enough to counteract AGW? I think yes, and then a little bit more.

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    I have some nice Currys MDF type wood to touch atm - makes all the differencePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

    When my computer allows me to read ALL pop-ups I will have a look at that link. I have overdone the security control on my settings!Posted Image

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    If we accept that low sunspot activity can have a cooling effect on global temperatures why can't we accept that the opposite may be true ie high sunspot activity can have a warming effect on global temperatures thus explaining to a large extent why we have had so called global warming. Just a thought!!

    Indeed, we do, JB... :rolleyes:

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  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert

    It's worth reading Jethro's links on the Solar on the other thread, Jager seems to have a good understanding of Sunspot cycles.

    I'd be tempted to go with Leif Svalgaard thoughts.

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