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  • Location: Larbert
  • Location: Larbert

    Does anyone know, off the top of their head, what cycles 22 and 23 were like and how long they lasted?

    Nog. It would be easier to just google Cycle 22 or 23..

    During those cycles, no spin or climate change a.k.a global warming was being bandied about. Nowadays, with the internet being the mainstay of the world, Cycle 24 will be subject to all enquiries [from both sides of the "global warming" debate]

    There are so many people out there with a vested interest in C24...like so many people with a vested interest in weather (who try make a quick buck or thousand on the side with their fanfare). Makes me sick; all of it.

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    Just a few pics from early this morning at West Sands, St. Andrews  First one was 100iso eq @ f1.8 and 10 sec exposure, strong moonlight about midnight with the faintest of hint of an aurora.

    From Salon on the Isle Of Rum & The Isle Of Lewis tonight. Credit; Martin Keivers and Emma Mitchell.  

    More shots here from Scotland last night. Fingers crossed again tonight as there is another predicted Kp7 ☺

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Moved on 36spotless days

    Puts this current run 18th in period of spotless days since 1849.

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  • Location: Coalpit Heath, South Gloucestershire
  • Location: Coalpit Heath, South Gloucestershire

    Nog. It would be easier to just google Cycle 22 or 23..

    You are quite right, Monds. I am getting lazy. :good:

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  • Location: Redhill, Surrey
  • Weather Preferences: Southerly tracking LPs, heavy snow. Also 25c and calm
  • Location: Redhill, Surrey

    http://icecap.us/images/uploads/solarcyclestory.pdf

    Noggin, try this. They were very active barring 20 and lasted 9-10 years.

    BFTP

    Caveat - post above is for sunspot cycle reference and NOT for ice age prediction.

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    http://icecap.us/ima...rcyclestory.pdf

    Noggin, try this. They were very active barring 20 and lasted 9-10 years.

    BFTP

    excellent post there is plenty of support to suggest a continued minimum.

    also strongly convinced of the suns impact on ocean and land,

    were seeing lots going on in our climate i think some are finding it hard to get there heads round the idear of the sun having such a big impact.

    but from what i read its a bigger deal than been suggested by some.

    soon where get to the stage where el ninos will not make such a difference this is something i feel is already starting to happen although its just speculation from my part.

    as time ticks by it will be intresting to see how this minimum pans out another day passes and its still spotless one thing i hope dont happen is in the near future a massive surge in solar activity which is possible where have to wait and see.:whistling:

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  • Location: Brighton, East Sussex
  • Location: Brighton, East Sussex

    This is crazy i give up on ever getting to see the aurora's. :whistling:

    I might have to convert to one of the people who actually wants/ supports there to be a rubbish solar cycle. However if this means we get colder winters in future and more snow i am in favor. :)

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Moved on to 37 spotless days.

    Joint 17th in spotless days since 1849

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  • Location: Coalpit Heath, South Gloucestershire
  • Location: Coalpit Heath, South Gloucestershire

    Noggin, try this. They were very active barring 20 and lasted 9-10 years.

    BFTP

    Caveat - post above is for sunspot cycle reference and NOT for ice age prediction.

    Cheers, Fred. http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Understood.

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  • Location: warwick 74m. asl
  • Weather Preferences: WHITE GOLD
  • Location: warwick 74m. asl

    http://icecap.us/ima...rcyclestory.pdf

    Noggin, try this. They were very active barring 20 and lasted 9-10 years.

    BFTP

    Caveat - post above is for sunspot cycle reference and NOT for ice age prediction.

    intresting read BFTP. Posted Image FF

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Solarcycle24 http://solarcycle24.com/ have moved onto 38 spotless days.

    Which puts us at joint12 on the longest run of spotless days since 1849.

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    i dunno karyo i read this on that site.

    Geophysical Activity Forecast: Geomagnetic field activity isexpected to be at quiet levels on day 1 (17 August). An increase toquiet to unsettled levels is expected on day 2 (18 August) as arecurrent coronal hole high-speed stream (CH HSS) begins to disturbthe field. A further increase to unsettled to active levels (with aslight chance for minor storm levels) is expected on day 3 (19August) as the CH HSS persists.

    does this mean activity is on its way in regards to spots ???

    but truely impressive stuff.

    also noticed there some talk of a small spot heres the link but not a cert.

    http://solarcycle24com.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=754&page=15

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  • Location: Blackburn, Lancs
  • Location: Blackburn, Lancs

    i dunno karyo i read this on that site.

    Geophysical Activity Forecast: Geomagnetic field activity isexpected to be at quiet levels on day 1 (17 August). An increase toquiet to unsettled levels is expected on day 2 (18 August) as arecurrent coronal hole high-speed stream (CH HSS) begins to disturbthe field. A further increase to unsettled to active levels (with aslight chance for minor storm levels) is expected on day 3 (19August) as the CH HSS persists.

    does this mean activity is on its way in regards to spots ???

    but truely impressive stuff.

    also noticed there some talk of a small spot heres the link but not a cert.

    http://solarcycle24c...ead=754&page=15

    Think they may be discussing Solar winds badboy, they are expected to pick up!

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    Think they may be discussing Solar winds badboy, they are expected to pick up!

    cheers solar.:whistling:

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  • Location: Manchester
  • Location: Manchester

    i dunno karyo i read this on that site.

    hi badboy,

    my earlier statement meant to say we should soon enter the top ten, rather than the top! But you never know...

    Interesting link about the possible sunspot but it is (thankfully )not confirmed!

    Karyo

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    http://solarcycle24.com/ has moved onto 39 spotless days, http://spaceweather.com/ is still on 37 spotless days.

    If it is 39 spotless days, then that puts us at joint 11 since 1849.

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  • Location: portsmouth uk
  • Weather Preferences: extremes
  • Location: portsmouth uk

    well all i can say right now is wow this is getting rather exciting but also a little worried.

    what if we are desending into a deep minimum similar to maunder,

    i know i been wishing for cooling but who knows we could end up with more than we bargained for.

    but still perhapes something a little different maybe starting now the sun has in dramatic fashion just gone to sleep but then like anything peaks normally decline.

    i must say in my life time its strange to see the sun in this way.:cc_confused:

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  • Location: Redhill, Surrey
  • Weather Preferences: Southerly tracking LPs, heavy snow. Also 25c and calm
  • Location: Redhill, Surrey

    Think they may be discussing Solar winds badboy, they are expected to pick up!

    Day 3 has changed now to 'decrease to quiet from unsettled'. Looks like it isn't going to wake up.

    I still find it strange how some say that the sun will suddenly explode into very high activity [my research doesn't suggest the sun behaves that way, it has regular and rthythmic cycles. I think folk should take a read of this.

    http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog

    Read the section on Maunder Minimum. Again [caveat] not to support or entirely agree with the site, just to highlight Penn and Livingston's theory of how the magnetic field of sunspots has decreased over last 15 years and if continues to do so tha the sun will be 'devoid' of sunspots by 2015. Get that...devoid of sunspots by 2015 [well they actually say 5 years so that should be 2014!!!]. This minima is 'currently' supporting their theory so is the decrease in solar flux.

    BFTP

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  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset
  • Weather Preferences: Hot sunny , cold and snowy, thunderstorms
  • Location: Weston-S-Mare North Somerset

    Day 3 has changed now to 'decrease to quiet from unsettled'. Looks like it isn't going to wake up.

    I still find it strange how some say that the sun will suddenly explode into very high activity [my research doesn't suggest the sun behaves that way, it has regular and rthythmic cycles. I think folk should take a read of this.

    http://icecap.us/ind...hp/go/joes-blog

    Read the section on Maunder Minimum. Again [caveat] not to support or entirely agree with the site, just to highlight Penn and Livingston's theory of how the magnetic field has decreased over last 15 years and if continues to do so tha the sun will be 'devoid' of sunspots by 2015. Get that...devoid of sunspots by 2015. This minima is 'currently' supporting their theory so is the decrease in magnetic flux.

    BFTP

    Is that devoid of sunspot by or until 2015?.

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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

    Well guys, I've watched this minimum develop, and as a sceptic have kept an open mind...

    But, now things are starting to look like something new may indeed be afoot. And, it being the case that even NASA's scientists can't get their heads around what's happening, how can we?

    As I've always maintained that Solar forcing is (by some considerable distance?) our climate's #1 driver, a cooling Sun ought to be enough to account for the Jet's southerly track; that, along with Arctic ice-melt??

    I obviously don't know what our Sun's going to do. But, should it stay quiet, a period of global-cooling does indeed look like an increasing probability??

    And, now that I've opened my gob, the Sun will fire-up tomorrow!! :cc_confused::whistling:

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  • Location: Redhill, Surrey
  • Weather Preferences: Southerly tracking LPs, heavy snow. Also 25c and calm
  • Location: Redhill, Surrey

    Is that devoid of sunspot by or until 2015?.

    By 2015 [they actually say 5 years so 2014!!].

    BFTP

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  • Location: Blackburn, Lancs
  • Location: Blackburn, Lancs

    Day 3 has changed now to 'decrease to quiet from unsettled'. Looks like it isn't going to wake up.

    I still find it strange how some say that the sun will suddenly explode into very high activity [my research doesn't suggest the sun behaves that way, it has regular and rthythmic cycles. I think folk should take a read of this.

    http://icecap.us/ind...hp/go/joes-blog

    Read the section on Maunder Minimum. Again [caveat] not to support or entirely agree with the site, just to highlight Penn and Livingston's theory of how the magnetic field of sunspots has decreased over last 15 years and if continues to do so tha the sun will be 'devoid' of sunspots by 2015. Get that...devoid of sunspots by 2015 [well they actually say 5 years so that should be 2014!!!]. This minima is 'currently' supporting their theory so is the decrease in solar flux.

    BFTP

    Exciting times ahead Fred. And to think how many scoffed at Penn and Livingston's theory, not that long ago!

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  • Location: Coalpit Heath, South Gloucestershire
  • Location: Coalpit Heath, South Gloucestershire

    And, now that I've opened my gob, the Sun will fire-up tomorrow!! http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

    (Sharp intake of breath).....I wouldn't want to be in your shoes, if it does.http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif http://nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

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  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
  • Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent

    Exciting times ahead Fred. And to think how many scoffed at Penn and Livingston's theory, not that long ago!

    Aren't they those weird magician pair that were on Channel 4 a few years back - what do they know about the sun?

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