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10 minutes ago, karyo said:

I see this winter as equivalent in the solar cycle to winter 2008/9 which was a cold one in the UK. 

Looking at things as they stand now, I will be surprised if this winter turns out anywhere near as good.

was December 46 not similar to know and then look what happened. All notable winters don't start until late December /early Jan

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16 minutes ago, jonboy said:

was December 46 not similar to know and then look what happened. All notable winters don't start until late December /early Jan

That's what I hear every year until we reach early January and nothing happens. A lot of things have changed since  2008 never mind1946!

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39 minutes ago, jonboy said:

was December 46 not similar to know and then look what happened. All notable winters don't start until late December /early Jan

I guess it depends on how one defines 'similar', jonboy?:oops:

 

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3 hours ago, karyo said:

That's what I hear every year until we reach early January and nothing happens. A lot of things have changed since  2008 never mind1946!

For a start December 2008 holds no comparison to this December and certainly the jan feb march period of 2009 holds no comparison to 47 so don't really get your point unless of course you are bringing in CC

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10 minutes ago, jonboy said:

For a start December 2008 holds no comparison to this December and certainly the jan feb march period of 2009 holds no comparison to 47 so don't really get your point unless of course you are bringing in CC

You mentioned Dec 46 not be. lol

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14 minutes ago, karyo said:

You mentioned Dec 46 not be. lol

Rude and not necessary 

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13 minutes ago, jonboy said:

Rude and not necessary 

Well jonboy, it could be both or either of those (though, for the life of me, I can't see how!)? But, I rather suspect it's Karyo's observation's being an inconvenient truth that's got you so irked, and not its perceived 'rudeness'?🤔

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bring back the days of Brexit  and politics  at least it was something worthy to fall out about    now we have stooped as low as to have a argument about bloody sun spots.  

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35 days blank, 272 for 2019, 77%

Solar flux 70

Thermosphere: 3.17

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This is my favourite post of the day!

36 minutes ago, weirpig said:

bring back the days of Brexit  and politics  at least it was something worthy to fall out about    now we have stooped as low as to have a argument about bloody sun spots.  

 

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39 minutes ago, Ed Stone said:

Well jonboy, it could be both or either of those (though, for the life of me, I can't see how!)? But, I rather suspect it's Karyo's observation's being an inconvenient truth that's got you so irked, and not its perceived 'rudeness'?🤔

When anyone puts lol (laugh out loud) at the end of a statement it just becomes rude unnecessary and bluntly offensive. You will never see me doing that but then some off you clearly think its funny I don't 

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5 hours ago, karyo said:

I see this winter as equivalent in the solar cycle to winter 2008/9 which was a cold one in the UK. 

Looking at things as they stand now, I will be surprised if this winter turns out anywhere near as good.

Me too.  However, our best chance is probably a back loaded winter.  Winter 08/09 was generally on the cold side (albeit with mild spells) to mid-February.

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3 minutes ago, Don said:

Me too.  However, our best chance is probably a back loaded winter.  Winter 08/09 was generally on the cold side (albeit with mild spells) to mid-February.

There is a view point that next year will have fewer sunspots  than this in which case we are in 07/08 comparison in cycle terms. Only time will tell

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13 minutes ago, Don said:

Me too.  However, our best chance is probably a back loaded winter.  Winter 08/09 was generally on the cold side (albeit with mild spells) to mid-February.

Fingers crossed! What is the latest from the QBO, is it still westerly?

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2 minutes ago, karyo said:

Fingers crossed! What is the latest from the QBO, is it still westerly?

I believe it’s just entered into the easterly phase?

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5 minutes ago, Don said:

I believe it’s just entered into the easterly phase?

Good, let's hope it starts to work its way down pronto.

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36 days blank, 273 for 2019, 77%

Solar flux 70

Thermosphere: 3.17

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SOLAR WIND SPARKS AURORAS: A minor stream of solar wind hit Earth's magnetic field on Dec. 18th. The impact did not cause a geomagnetic storm. Nevertheless, Arctic sky watchers saw its effect. "The sky turned green!" reports Chad Blakley, whose Lights over Lapland webcam snapped this picture from Abisko, Sweden:

Solar Wind Sparks Auroas Sweden.jpg

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Skov mentions a brief spot in the video above. SIDC usually go back and review at month end, so maybe the spotless streak will get broken retrospectively?

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4 hours ago, Katrine Basso said:

https://www.solarham.net/

Solar-terrestrial data

20 December 2019 08:13

Solar Flux Index: 70

Sunspot Number:  0

 

Adjusted flux 67.6

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