Solar and Aurora Activity Chat

[Methuselah]

Genuinely not sure what this 'agreement' business has to do with anything?http://www.netweather.tv/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/cc_confused.gif Neither expect or want a 'pat on the back' from you for anything. Hardly natural is it?

In fact, it just might be that, sometimes, no reply or comment to follow at all might be better...and much more normal . Much as most posters receive.

Back on topic ....

...that link I just placed from NASA stresses that as as yet there is nothing 'abnormal' about C24. The cycle seems to be behaving in a 'Dalton' like way from my reading of it, but again we have to wait and see. The Corona is indicated as a feature of all but the deepest min cycles - might be worth digging around to try and find out a bit more about this.

Well, that's good. Thank God for that!!!

And yes, from a purely scientific basis, I agree with you; this 'minimum' is something we've not witnessed for a while.

How do you explain it?

[The Penguin]

Em, Pete, I am no expert on such matters, but it seems to me that the authors of a goodly number of international scientific research papers, and (more importantly) over a thousand posts in this thread, would be a tad surprised and not a little dismayed if NSSC had had the definitive answer to your question all this time, and just not shared it with us. Or did I miss something?

[MR EXTREMES]

Now I'm getting on a bit - memory not what it used to be and all that - but that bit seems to contradict something I'm sure I read in early 2008. I'm sure Mr Hathaway stated then that C24 wasn't abnormal but if things hadn't picked up by January 2009 then it might start to cause some concern amongst solar physicists.

I reckon Mr Hathaway's going to need a really good chiropractor as his back must be shot to pieces with the amount of times he has shifted the goalposts!!!!

yep i remember that statement made so your memory is spot on.

but the minimum as it stands goes on but i place my bets and say the milestone where waiting for wont happen i gotta feeling some activity is brewing:cray:

Edited August 25, 2009 by badboy657

[karyo]

One more spot free day! Have we moved up the chart today?

The only concern is that there are many coronal holes currently (according to spaceweather.com) so I hope that's not a sign of activity.

Karyo

Edited August 25, 2009 by karyo

[Stu_London]

One more spot free day! Have we moved up the chart today?

The only concern is that there are many coronal holes currently (according to spaceweather.com) so I hope that's not a sign of activity.

Karyo

Forecast remains low - hopeful we can squueze a few more days from this run

[karyo]

Forecast remains low - hopeful we can squueze a few more days from this run

Fingers crossed! We only need a few more days to beat the longest spot free run of this minimum and enter the top 5 since records begun!

Karyo

[SteveB]

Still on 45 spotless days according to http://solarcycle24.com/ .

[Stu_London]

Joint 7th now

If we get to Sunday we will be joint 4th on the all time list

Then it is

54 days - 3rd

69 days - 2nd

92 days - 1st

[SteveB]

We have moved onto 46 spotless days according to http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm .

Which put us at 6th on spotless runs since 1849 according to http://users.telenet...s/Spotless.html . Interesting that they say they will updating the spotless day page in early September.

Maybe it will include the run of 50+ days last year, if it has been declared official.

Edited August 25, 2009 by SteveB

[Mondy]

Being a radio amateur operator, this lack of sunspots and solar flares really is depressing. I'm glad, though, others are enjoying the blank Sun. IAt this rate, it'll be ranked amongst the unique periods of inactivity!

[Chris Knight]

Being a radio amateur operator, this lack of sunspots and solar flares really is depressing. I'm glad, though, others are enjoying the blank Sun. IAt this rate, it'll be ranked amongst the unique periods of inactivity!

If this deep minimum had happened fifty years ago, when the greatest sunspot maximum of the C20 was going on, would the amateur radio movement ever have got off the ground as it did? How would it have changed society?

[shuggee]

What's the link Mondy? (Do excuse my ignorance of all things radio-hammy )

[Mondy]

Sure. Will post a link with links tomorrow. Chris included.

[SteveB]

Moved onto 47 spotless days according to http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm. That puts us joint 5th in spotless days since 1849 according to http://users.telenet.be/j.janssens/Spotless/Spotless.html

[karyo]

Moved onto 47 spotless days according to http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm. That puts us joint 5th in spotless days since 1849 according to http://users.telenet.be/j.janssens/Spotless/Spotless.html

So we have entered the top 5? Amazing!

Karyo

[SteveB]

So we have entered the top 5? Amazing!

Karyo

Yep, and if we move onto 48, then that would put us alone in 5th place.

[Guest North Sea Snow Convection]

Moved onto 47 spotless days according to http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm. That puts us joint 5th in spotless days since 1849 according to http://users.telenet...s/Spotless.html

Excellent The outlook continues to look quiet as well

*she says touching wood*

Edited August 26, 2009 by North Sea Snow Convection

[Anti-Mild]

Excellent The outlook continues to look quiet as well

*she says touching wood*

Oh well done Tamara, now we'll have one tomorrow!!!

Just one more week and it puts this current run into the top 3.

I don't know if this has been posted before but I just found it:

http://www.gopexiles.com/?p=2760

Interesting little snippet although I remain to be sold on the "2c range" aspect. That said, unless the sun goes crazy over the next couple of years I believe we will be looking at an amplitude of between 50 and 70 for cycle 24, which, IMHO, is bound to have a cooling effect on global temps. Enough to counteract AGW? I think yes, and then a little bit more.

[jonboy]

Oh well done Tamara, now we'll have one tomorrow!!!

Just one more week and it puts this current run into the top 3.

I don't know if this has been posted before but I just found it:

http://www.gopexiles.com/?p=2760

Interesting little snippet although I remain to be sold on the "2c range" aspect. That said, unless the sun goes crazy over the next couple of years I believe we will be looking at an amplitude of between 50 and 70 for cycle 24, which, IMHO, is bound to have a cooling effect on global temps. Enough to counteract AGW? I think yes, and then a little bit more.

If we accept that low sunspot activity can have a cooling effect on global temperatures why can't we accept that the opposite may be true ie high sunspot activity can have a warming effect on global temperatures thus explaining to a large extent why we have had so called global warming. Just a thought!!

[SteveB]

Excellent The outlook continues to look quiet as well

*she says touching wood*

Indeed it does, and the fact that all the experts have no idea when it will end, how long could it go on for???

[Guest North Sea Snow Convection]

Oh well done Tamara, now we'll have one tomorrow!!!

Just one more week and it puts this current run into the top 3.

I don't know if this has been posted before but I just found it:

http://www.gopexiles.com/?p=2760

Interesting little snippet although I remain to be sold on the "2c range" aspect. That said, unless the sun goes crazy over the next couple of years I believe we will be looking at an amplitude of between 50 and 70 for cycle 24, which, IMHO, is bound to have a cooling effect on global temps. Enough to counteract AGW? I think yes, and then a little bit more.

I have some nice Currys MDF type wood to touch atm - makes all the difference

When my computer allows me to read ALL pop-ups I will have a look at that link. I have overdone the security control on my settings!

[Iceberg]

It's worth reading Jethro's links on the Solar on the other thread, Jager seems to have a good understanding of Sunspot cycles.

[Methuselah]

If we accept that low sunspot activity can have a cooling effect on global temperatures why can't we accept that the opposite may be true ie high sunspot activity can have a warming effect on global temperatures thus explaining to a large extent why we have had so called global warming. Just a thought!!

Indeed, we do, JB...

[Mondy]

It's worth reading Jethro's links on the Solar on the other thread, Jager seems to have a good understanding of Sunspot cycles.

I'd be tempted to go with Leif Svalgaard thoughts.

[Iceberg]

I think he builds on Svalgaards thoughts.