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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

16c forecast tomorrow then snow is forecast for them on Saturday from Spring like temps to winter in 3 day, they certainly have an interesting climate it has to be said

 

I experienced the crazy swings in weather while living in Oklahoma. I remember in April that one day it was 25c, but felt much warmer thanks to the humidity. The next morning we had freezing rain. Insane. Our climate is as dull as dishwater in comparison.

 

In a separate event, the north of the state had over a foot of snow still in the ground from a previous snow storm...while temperatures were well over 20c!

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  • Location: Home near Sellindge, 80m/250feet, 5miles from Coast
  • Weather Preferences: Severe Storms and Snow
  • Location: Home near Sellindge, 80m/250feet, 5miles from Coast

I wonder if snow lovers in New York are getting frustrated looking at the radar just like we would be. It's clear the weather service called this one completely wrong for New York, barely a couple of inches at Times Square

 

Seems like weather forecasters are as bad there as they are here and don't like to be criticized :nonono:  

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  • Location: Live Haddenham (Bucks). Work Heathrow Airport
  • Location: Live Haddenham (Bucks). Work Heathrow Airport

Live feed from queens.

click on live button for "live" pictures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WV2jJKHVw0#t=28

Some people clearing there drives at the minute.

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne

 

Jan. 27, 2015 will go down in the annals of history as the day New Jersey came to a standstill for a blizzard in another state.

 

Blizzard warnings have been lifted in the Garden State, projected snow totals more than cut in half and forecasters have apologized for what they’re describing as “big forecast miss.â€

 

Why forecasters got the 'monster' Blizzard of 2015 so very wrong for N.J.

http://www.nj.com/weather/index.ssf/2015/01/why_forecasters_got_the_monster_blizzard_of_2015_so_very_wrong.html

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

Seems like weather forecasters are as bad there as they are here and don't like to be criticized :nonono:  

 

We're fine with criticism when warranted. But it's unbased claims that "they always get it wrong" that really gets on our goat.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

We're fine with criticism when warranted. But it's unbased claims that "they always get it wrong" that really gets on our goat.

Looks like their weather service suffered from the same problems as ours do. Too slow to update when things aren't panning out as expected.

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  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire
  • Weather Preferences: Winter: Cold & Snowy, Summer: Just not hot
  • Location: Cheddington, Buckinghamshire

Looks like their weather service suffered from the same problems as ours do. Too slow to update when things aren't panning out as expected.

 

I'd agree with that particular criticism of the Met Office! 

 

I think the stick the authorities are getting is a bit harsh though. They were merely acting on forecasts and if it was the other way around and they hadn't acted, it would have been far worse. It's not as if the snow failed to materialise, many places have still seen in excess of 2 feet of snow.

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  • Location: Rossland BC Canada
  • Location: Rossland BC Canada

Basically the GFS outperformed the Euro and its sidekick for this particular storm, the NAM. The GEM was somewhere in the middle wavering from side to side.

 

The GFS never depicted heavy snow west of the border between Queens (eastern borough of NYC) and the rest of Long Island. It turned out to be quite accurate but given the superior reputation of the Euro and the fact that the NAM was coming into line with it, most mets including the NWS went along -- imagine the situation had the opposite set of events taken place, forecasts based on GFS, storm verifying with the heavier amounts.

 

As for eastern and central Long Island, eastern half of New England, they got an all-out blizzard correctly forecast which probably saved lives and much economic dislocation (the storm is by no means over yet either, already reports of three feet of snow in parts of eastern MA).

 

Meanwhile, we've had some record warmth on the west coast. It was sunny and 16 C here yesterday, and as high as 18 C in other places around the region and in parts of WA state. The 850 mb temp near Portland Oregon was as high as 20 C at one point. This warmth is slowly reducing itself to more normal values due to low cloud today.

 

Another less prolific snowfall event is setting up for Thursday into Friday on the east coast, 5-15 cm amounts can be expected, and a stronger storm or two being shown next week around Sunday and towards end of the week, with brutal cold heading for northern New England and eastern Canada as rural areas over this fresh snowpack could be lower than -40 at night.

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  • Location: Welwyn Herts 115m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Surprises
  • Location: Welwyn Herts 115m ASL

The apparent “fail†for forecasting what could have been a disaster for NY is ironic.


 


It just goes to show that even in the USA forecasters interpretation of the models cannot guarantee they will be correct - no amount of money spent on modelling and super computers can ‘predict’ where snow will cause problems. A general area yes, maybe.


 


New York city is a small part of New York state, the city is the hub and is densely populated with homes and businesses. I see no problem with calling the worst scenario… but the media ‘fail’ to recognise this as positive and also ‘fail’ to report anything outside NY City because it doesn’t make a story.


 


My brother in-law moved out from his home in Long Island, back to a NY City apartment to escape the worst - Long Island has had it bad as well as many other places relatively nearby.


 


Let this be a lesson, not for the forecasters but for those who expect the forecasters to be correct IMBY (in my back yard) - Forecasting snow is a prediction based on wisdom most of the time and no amount of money and computers can out-whit minuscule changes in nature at the last minute - Why do us humans expect so much?


 


Yes it snowed, not as hard and where it was predicted - the same will happen time and time again… its like trying to warn where lightning will hit - 


 


Those blobs of snow on a BBC weather forecast will not be in exactly the same place when it actually falls…  even if it were a big bulbous front passing over there might be rain instead of snow.


 


It might snow here in the UK this week - its cold enough. but you might be a few miles away from the worst or the best.


 


I like surprises like that - it's humbling (-: 


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  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
  • Location: just south of Doncaster, Sth Yorks
Seems like weather forecasters are as bad there as they are here and don't like to be criticized :nonono:

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So easy to criticise, have you any idea of the complexity of the task?

The comment applies to the others making similar complaints.

So easy especially when one has not a great deal of understanding of the scientific issues involved.

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  • Location: Camborne
  • Location: Camborne
Seems like weather forecasters are as bad there as they are here and don't like to be criticized :nonono:

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So easy to criticise, have you any idea of the complexity of the task?

The comment applies to the others making similar complaints.

So easy especially when one has not a great deal of understanding of the scientific issues involved.

 

Well said John. The world is full of self-appointed 'experts'.

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  • Location: Locksbottom, NW Kent 92m asl(310ft)
  • Weather Preferences: Warm summers but not too hot and colder winters with frost and snow
  • Location: Locksbottom, NW Kent 92m asl(310ft)

Some place by cob tonight in Maine and Mass will end up with 30inchs plus and the pattern over there looks awesome for cold.Another round of snow for NE USA on Thurs (1-5 inchs),then another storm next Sat/Sun(amounts not being talked about atm) and then more disturbances next week.There will also be some very cold temps in the mix and with snowcover in place fully expect Minus 30 somewhere in NE in next7-10 days.

 

Now that is what you call a :cold:  :cold: proper cold spell

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  • Location: Locksbottom, NW Kent 92m asl(310ft)
  • Weather Preferences: Warm summers but not too hot and colder winters with frost and snow
  • Location: Locksbottom, NW Kent 92m asl(310ft)

See Boston in line for another 12+ inchs today on top of the 20+ inchs from last weeks blizzard.On top of that going to turn very cold and lows will be in Minus 20s.Lucky sods!!

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