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Looks like it’s a low level fog sort of morning.

certainly not bright and sunny up here but no mist or fog either.

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 Rush2019  great to see you are feeling up to getting out again and that the treatment is imminent.

Hope everything goes ok.

 

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As already said, it’s nice to have a dry and hopefully sunny day coincide with the weekend and perfect timing for our pre planned look down into Manchester for a meal and a few drinks.

whatever you are up to, enjoy

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 Rush2019  had to push the last of mine down the drive so I could get the cars on but it was a  minute of a job as 90% of what came down yesterday had already melted before I came home from work.

even the tops are looking green again now apart from the odd white streak along the back of the walls.

there used to be a saying around these parts that if the snow lays against the walls then more is on the way but I don’t think that any of this lot will be here long enough to make that claim.

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 severe snowstorm My missus wasn’t happy with my wet two inches either but she didn’t say whether it was to much or not enough for her

Seriously though, I get where you are coming from but if that’s the best that a mid winter storm with embedded cold sourced air can deliver at 1000ft asl in northern England then we don’t have a lot to get excited about moving forwards.

It’s a shame but whilst our “cold” is still readily available, it’s becoming less and less the type that brings snow and more the technically mild but still raw feeling crap that gets right into your bones as was the case up here yesterday and is still a problem today.

 

 

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Now that the last chances of snow are being replaced by rain, was there anyone in the region who actually ended up with more than they were forecast or expected.

Up here, even taking the usual last minute downgrades into consideration, the couple of inches of wet snow I ended up with was poor compared to what I was expecting.

yes the yellow warning was probably warranted but only down to the condition of the roads and the number of local accidents and closures and certainly not because of the amount of snow which ended up falling.

The local roads that cross the higher tops were pretty bad with snow blowing off the fields with some decent photos on the local FB page but to put it into context, it’s the third covering of snow we have had this winter and although it had the least depth and is the one likely to vanish the quickest, was the only one to be given a weather warning.

oh and I was only a couple of miles outside of the amber warning.

not particularly bothered as I am fast heading into spring mode and just want the icy slushy mess to disappear but given what we were looking at just 48 hours ago, it was a disappointing let down.

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I thought I heard rain overnight but little has melted since I got home and closed the curtains yesterday.

just hope that what’s left is slush rather than ice or it’ll be lethal on the roads up here this morning.

 

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Heavy snow is giving another covering where I cleared it earlier but it looks like it won’t be long before the back edge arrives.

It’s certainly vile outside at the moment.

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Just above the snow line here and so far we’ve ended up with a couple of inches cover whereas further down the valley it’s barely stuck even though it’s fallen constantly since it came light.

somethings still falling or rather blowing horizontally on a bitter east wind but I’m not sure what and it’s certainly not in large flake form.

all in all a disappointing day, even up here with the double whammy of marginal temperatures and lighter than expected precipitation although maybe our loss has been someone else’s gain.

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Should we be worried that it’s currently making no progress north beyond Manchester.

not sure whether it’s stopping or just dying but hopefully the heavier stuff which is catching up will give the first bit the kick up the backside it needs.

either that or it’s the usual Manchester shield setting up.

 

 

 

 

 

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 Day 10 hope everyone’s sees snow although I’m sure there’s some out there who would prefer drizzle.

 

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Looking at the radar, the first of whatever is falling will reach here in about an hour which matches the MET app for OL13.

after that it’s showing snow symbols throughout until the evening before things turn a bit more sleety afterwards.

in the meantime though, the winds is already getting noisy around the side of house so an interesting day coming up and anyone on high ground is going to get hammered.

work is a fair bit lower than home although still above 600ft but sure I’ll be looking at the door camera and checking on the speed of traffic going up the hill to the county boundary at the summit.

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 rob_b

not a chance, it’s probably shut already on the chance that we’ll get a flake or two.

if it’s not closed by snow it’s closed by accidents

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 Scuba steve think we’d better cancel the outside caterers and put the emergency chairs back in the shed again

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 algernon remember a good few years ago digging the car out to take daughter to her weekend job in Bury.

the roads up here were atrocious but I managed to get behind the snow plough down to Rawtenstall.

we got there in the end but not a flake of snow in Bury and daughter got a roasting for being late in.

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 algernon aye, Haslingden Road closed tonight for yet another burst water main.

only the fourth time in a year so a 4 mile detour coming home and probably the same again in the morning.

M66 and and the A56 bypasses are decent but the main roads up the valleys are diabolical and mainly used as training grounds for utility digging and temporary light setup.

never mind at least the snow will fill the potholes in

 

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Looking at the timing, I can’t see snow being a problem going to work in the morning but it could be an interesting drive home again later.

I’m just outside the amber area here but it’s looking more and more like altitude will play a big part so I can see all of the Rossendale area, even the valley bottom getting a covering which will play havoc with the already crappy and full Victorian road system.

Roads over the tops still look to be in for a pasting though so just glad home is the highest I have to drive.

 

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 Weather-history yeah the signs are there for one of the heaviest falls of widespread snow for several years and ironically it could come in one of least snowy winters.

Maybe something along the lines of January 2013 is coming where a heavy fall across the region was gone within a couple of days and given it coincided with me being in London for the weekend; the only snow I saw was on the Saturday morning news.

But apart from the late March BFTE blizzard, it was largely snow free even up here.

 

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 Iceaxecrampon aye the bad old days when you had to work hard to get your weather fix

how did we manage

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 Had Worse  the old fashioned sodium lamps where the snowy sky had an orange colour about it.

now it’s all white LED stuff although the first light flakes are easier to spot.

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 Chris.R  I think it all depends on how far north the system gets as the track seems to keep it a bit further south now than it was earlier.

We’re certainly in the sweet spot as far as Lancashire, and particularly East Lancashire goes if the heavier stuff reaches here and should be far enough north to be clear of the Manchester rain shadow but we’ll see.

 

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 tvh3382  dry, lengthy sunny spells and temperatures into the low 20’s here in Rossendale then maybe warming up a bit over the weekend

 

 

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 Day 10 strange how I couldn’t see charts like this in the Mad thread.

plenty showing everything across the Midlands and CSE but none showing snow across the north.

do they know something we don’t.

 

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 Day 10 even our region is going to struggle to get a let down looking at those pictures

seriously though, if the depths shown even come close to being accurate then crossing the South Pennines and Peaks is going to be impossible on Thursday and probably into the weekend.

Even the falls in the classic past winters were not usually measured in depths between one and two feet and a heavy fall these days is a few cm’s, not approaching 50.

 

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 The Northern Ramper easterlies are usually pretty good for here and straight westerly’s also deliver providing the air source is cold enough but for different reasons, both are rare.