Nick L
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No it isn't.
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You can't sit there and poo-poo the stats and then throw this in at the end. Besides, June 2023 was one of the sunniest on record. Your reply has also gone off at a complete tangent to my post. I made no reference to temperature in the post you quoted, which I agree has been inflated by high mins. I was talking about sunshine, not temperature. July was a rotten month for daytime maxima, absolutely.
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Nobody is holding it up as some gold standard. I'm just tired of the whinging about a summer that, overall, has not been bad. If people are defining "awful" as below normal, worse than normal etc. then it's simply wrong to label it awful. If people are saying our normal climate is awful then I tend to agree, it's dreadful year round! There's a reason why many people go abroad for reliable sunny weather. I won't holiday in the UK again because I don't want it being ruined by the weather again.
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Okay, but your original post did say summer rather than the March-Sept period. I agree spring was dire, and the overall period would likely be below average, but summer certainly hasn't been.
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Much like painkillers. Anyone paying for branded paracetamol is a mug!
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It hasn't been awful though. June was above average, July was below average. It's been pretty normal, sunshine wise. The two months pretty much cancel each other out. I do fear for some if we genuinely have a poor summer, sunshine-wise.
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In winter I can understand it. I work night shifts 8/9 days a month so I take Vit D supplements. But there is surely no need for the majority of the population to require it in the summer? Our climate isn't THAT bad!
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The only trees I've noticed "turning" are horse chestnuts which are badly affected by moth larvae. No sign of anything turning around here and it's about as leafy as you can get in the south around these parts! Would be interested to see photo evidence from those claiming otherwise. Much greener than recent summers where nature was badly affected by the heat.
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I had a news notification from GBNews just a couple of days ago saying pretty much this. Good ol' GBeebies
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Sure it's not Covid? My Mum had it last week and I'm pretty sure I've had a mild version of it this week with a persistent cough. True!
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Cor it's muggy this morning. Grim. At the risk of inciting a mob, and yes I know the CET is only regional, limitations due to being skewed by higher mins etc. etc., but we are currently on course to having the 17th warmest summer going back to 1659.
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Yep, after a gloomy morning it has really improved here. Lovely afternoon.
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Fair assessment, certainly a pretty average summer overall! Nothing to shout about, but nowhere near as bleak as the likes of 2007 or 2012. Temperatures are likely to come out above average, rainfall above average and sunshine probably a bit below. A mixed bag.
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But with temperatures not getting that high during the day, and limited sunshine, it won't be as bad as they're saying.
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Not really. By immediately using such divisive, almost derogatory terms you're clearly not willing argue reasonably. Besides, the best thing about science is that it doesn't care for your or anyone's opinions, and the science is pretty damn clear. -
It was slightly chilly when I left the house this morning. Where's the news article on that?!
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The worst combined spring/summer seasons on record
Nick L replied to Summer8906's topic in Historic Weather
You've just said June was a pleasant month, so how on earth can that then translate into a "terrible" summer? -
The worst combined spring/summer seasons on record
Nick L replied to Summer8906's topic in Historic Weather
Because that has never happened in summer, absolutely unprecedented. -
First time I'm noticing that the sun angle is lower at midday than it was a month or so ago, a full 10 degrees lower in the sky.
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26C would have to be well above anything we've ever seen before. I can't find any records, but for context the current dew point in Miami is 25C!
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The worst combined spring/summer seasons on record
Nick L replied to Summer8906's topic in Historic Weather
As I've said before, it's like labelling the winter of 2010/11 dreadful from a coldies perspective. There has been a 3 week spell in July which was dreadful, no getting away from that. But June was exceptional, you will struggle to get a better June than what we had. Now we're into a decent spell of pleasantly warm weather in the summer holidays. Anyone claiming that this summer is anywhere near one of the worst needs a reality check. -
The EC for next week has dew points of 26C in the south. That has to smash a record if there is one kept. I've rarely experienced that even when storm chasing in the US. Would feel utterly disgusting!
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Going to spend an afternoon in a beer garden rather than moaning that the warm spell isn't long enough. This is exactly what happens in the winter with cold spells!
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For the south this is looking like being a surprisingly prolonged good spell of weather. Mostly dry with temperatures consistently reaching the low to mid 20s for the next 7-10 days, a few days with some showers but no wash outs.
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In fairness, they'll be looking at the radar which suggests it is.
