london-snow

Morden

Something must have changed heavy snow and up to at least 2 cms within 20 mins

Absolutely terrible radar returns for those west and sw of london a covering if lucky.

Please turn west to northwest...

Few flakes here morden sw london

I think it’s a case of who’s going to get the most action. Need a more nw movement from that band for my area westwards.

Very windy out there now though..

Next few frames of radar are crucial needs to keep pivoting nw to see the snow west and sw of london. Otherwise areas further e/ne may get the goods.

Oh you snow tease...

Need to see this pivot west northwest from now on in to give us in the south and west of London for a good chance of a dumping. Just going by the radar returns she just may be doing that..

No rain here in sw London must be good news

Well I guess for you guys you are hoping on a battleground type setups. (Quite the form horse atm)

Think most of us would to be fair. I’d hope to see westward corrections when the easterly pattern is settled on and over the years it has been well documented that gfs underplays this and corrections are made closer to time. Massive ecm though coming up..

Correct me if i am wrong but doesn’t the gfs have a big tendency to underplay easterlies and westward correction filters in once the overall pattern is just about there?

Think I seem to recall kold saying last night if we do get a scandi ridge that it may take some budging that bodes well hopefully..

Yes it’s looking like a high probability the main thing for me is that the overnight ukmo update has come over to a better solution and more inline with the other big two at present. Let’s prey the ecm stays broadly inline with last nights output.

Certainly a much more positive overnight update from the meto in their extended period this morning.

Sorry but as I read it i would call it a downgrade.. Over the past 4 weeks it has been earmarked for a increasing risk of much colder weather with chances of snow increasing. Now let’s face facts 90% of us don’t live up a hill in northern england or further north with serious elevation (good luck to those that do). We are all seeking countrywide low level snow. Now I believe that is down to little or no blocking being picked up in the mid to long term output. People associate a ssw with blocking however thus far we have seen little or no evidence of this happening and influencing our weather. Those who have said ‘Wedges make Sledges’ may be right but imo no it’s laughable because these ‘Wedges’ do not give the majority of the uk a shot at prolonged cold which is what imo 100% of all winter weather enthusiasts seek.

I think a good few days of calmness is required here as imo the bigger picture plays out and eventually may or may not show it’s hand.. If say we have not seen any hints of heights into the Greenland or Scandi vicinity by say early next week then i’d be concerned that either we have a longer delay into a possibility of a cold spell or we may simply be out of luck on this occasion. However 14+ days and at this juncture we are in a watch and waiting game to see what effects up top has had. We had no QTR and seasoned pros aswell as pros have now tipped a possible cold spell towards the end of the month so let’s sit back and not get hung up on every run and everyone. I believe we are on the verge and well in with a more than decent shot of a very cold end to January and into February and not just a few glancing cold shots or fleeting useless toothless two day snaps.

Nooooooo! There’s a thread for that it’s called the NSACRA (Non snow and cold rampers association) I cannot find a link as i wish not to be associated with such group. This thread has now been hijacked by people armed to the teeth with sledges and snow shovels galore.. And we are ready to use them

Just need some consistency, Trop effects now showing it’s hand imo it’s atm about the overall picture rather than small changes.

Really? is this the first warming or the second?

Hmmm up to the 3rd of January.. A tad early as we discussed earlier but maybe a quick trop response with indications of a split?

Just on that point a lot more knowledgeable posters regarding strat right on this forum rather than a Twitter post with no explanation or evidence. Also to mention i find gavsweather videos over on YouTube most informative and easy to understand if you want to learn about the strat.

With the touted SSW around christmas is it reasonable to think about a sudden swift response filtered into the output. Or are we always looking at a 2 week min lag time for what is going on high up to filter down? I remember a few years back a dreaded outlook but sudden change and run with it type which materialised (Not to sure if it was strat related though). Could we we we’ll see this happen post Christmas?