damianslaw

Not commenting much on the models at present, namely because it all looks very average and typical for the time of year, cooler wetter spells interspersed with milder calmer ones. Mind not been able to say very average much this year.

I've been way out all year and never check any more what I went with. Expecting to be way out again, to my surprise I don't look to be too far off at 14.9 degrees, but unlike the rest of year look to be higher.

Entering the time of year when you are not sure how best to dress so to speak. I wore my warm winter raincoat today as there was a distinct nip in the air, but un the sunshine it way too warm to wear, but under the showers it was fine.. until November its often a case of should I wear my warm rain coat or lighter one.

2012 was the last year when a sudden late Oct snow expansion west backed up the theory such events correlate with colder conditions in Europe, alas winter 12-13 was never very severe and very episodic, the real cold came late in March. I think its the rate of expansion second half of Oct the key factor, not growth in September.

Very average then, in a rather non-average year so far, warmth and dry have ruled.. so it suggests the jetstream will finally dominate things..

Yes recently we've seen a very slow PV formation in November and start of Dec, only for a switch to be turned on and in no time its on turbo charge it seems.

Quite a lengthy part of the day Ive needed electric heater on. Without, its dropping down to 15 degrees. Its probably more expensive than gas central heating..

Yes a few more spots may record their first ground frost early hours tomorrow or Wednesday. No signs of first nationwide air frost on the horizon, but many a year it takes until November. The tipping point here tends to be third week of Oct, when clear skies can easily bring one even if uppers are not especially cold, just too early now, you need relatively cold uppers.

Nothing overly mild on the way next 4 days, indeed cool for late September. My guess is 0.2 drop tomorrow, then a further 0.3-0.4 drop until 30th. A good bet a finish of 14.6 degrees.

Not if the 12z is to be believed. Yes it brings in the azores high pulling in some milder uppers, but it unusually ridges it through the UK and we then see northern blocking and low pressure over the UK on a southerly jet. GFS not renowned for showing such evolution. Could be an outlier but interesting all the same.

Unless it ridges sufficently north, the azores high lingering to our SW in October usually equates to very dull damp conditions here. Hopefully it moves into a place that brings clearer skies.

The pattern we've been in largely since Dec 2020, holds firm, shortlived unsettled spells around the weekly mark, longer more so further north in duration interspersed by lengthier settled spells upwards of 10 to 14 days, longer more so further south has been a repeat. Once again about to go into one of those unsettled spells, with settled quickly returning.. how long for we shall see, perhaps they may even out in duration as we move through Autumn, hard to sustain settled weather 2 weeks or more in Oct and Nov, probably more so than any other months, by Dec cold blocking highs can hold sway.

A chilly day, current temp 12.4 degrees.

May be one of those months with a classic downslope from start to finish with no upturns.

A chilly unsettled end to September on the cards. Definately an autumnal look to things. As we move into October models show a trend to more settled with the cool polar airstream cut off. All in all very typical conditions for the time of year. The jetstream has more oomph to it right now but much of the reason for this down to the behaviour of ex tropical storm systems, and we are far from a zonal outlook.

A mean between 10 and 11 would be quite a notable cold end to the month

Quite a decent weekend ahead, perhaps a bit showery tomorrow, but plenty of dry bright weather. Make the most of it, we will soon have to become used to such conditions being rather a bit too chilly to linger too long outside not doing much.

A cold snap in late October always pricks my attention and speculation. 2000, 2008, 2010 and 2012 all produced low level snow in parts of the north from northerlies, and the following winters all brought some decent or very cold conditions. Conversely the normal wet mild weather we experience in late October has more often than not been followed by mild wet winters. Probably one or two exceptions to this. More recently we've had a few cold spells in November, apart from 2008, 2010 and to an extent 2017 these haven't been followed by cold winters. Last winters cold end to Nov a case in point, 2016 also.

Bridgefoot wettest place yesterday 35mm NW Cumbria. Suspect the fells saw much more than that.

We've turned the corner, I feel. Yes October can still bring 20+plus days but they feel as warm as equivalent days in late Feb- mid March, and therefore not summery. We are entering the most rapid transitional period of the year, which peaks late October.. rapid light loss, rapid sun strength loss.. the countdown of such change has started.

Freezing levels set to drop below 1000m early new week, snowline could well be as low as 800m by Tuesday on Scottish Highlands.

A finish in the mid to high 14s quite likely.

Agree, it looks more cyclonic than zonal.

An autumnal start. After the heavy rain of yesterday there is much dampness and wet in the atmosphere, clear skies during the night and a polar airstream have combined to provide ideal conditions for mist to form. Chilly clear blue sky start to the day. Can we say Autumn has officially started? Yes we can!

My calandar states its Autumn tomorrow. A cold northerly forecast early in the new year, quite likely to bring snowfall to highest scottish hills. Nothing too unusual about that. The Lakeland fells typically have to wait until late October for their first dusting. Use this thread to post snow level lines, depths on our mountains.