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  1. Try replacing NOAA's estimated global temperatures with error bars..see how much of a correlation there is then...
  2. The end of the 2017/2018 season is in and over 500 billion tonnes of snow/ice has been added to the Greenland Ice Sheet. If including figures from the 2016/2017 season there has been an increase of approximately 1 trillion tonnes to the ice sheet. Danish Meteorological Institute: https://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/
  3. I am fully aware of the contradiction and do not subscribe to it. The interesting part for me was that the cycle was documented. That doesn't happen much these days. The ice amount, extent, area of those charts I provided are not of interest to me, the cycles plotted are though. As far as Arctic ice is concerned over the last 10,000 years there has only been more ice during the LIA. Although your chart is interesting it doesn't really show anything other than the more recent ice melt. To find out if that ice melt is impressive or not we really need to look back to see what ice levels have been over previous years. It is all good and well seeing the top and fall but how far did it reach to get to the top in the first place? I'm sure you get me? Chart dating back 10,000 years. http://notrickszone.com/2017/03/02/new-paper-indicates-there-is-more-arctic-sea-ice-now-than-for-nearly-all-of-the-last-10000-years/ With the AMO expected to turn negative over coming years this is why I am extremely interested in the Arctic Ice Levels this year the last few years and the two or three decades to come. Along with Solar (which I wont get in to here) a lot of the ice melt has a strong chance to be replaced during that 2 to 4 decade period and as you can see on the above 10,000 year ice chart, current melt isn't anything to be alarmed about. Where as yours does kinda look scary lol
  4. Although this is the 2018 thread you have made a comment that I would still like to reply to. 1920's until mid 1970's. What's there? Nothing much apart from the ups and downs of multi-decadal trends https://www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/5885458 1970's where NOAA and the gang prefer to start. What's there? Nothing much apart from the downward leg of a decadal trend and the potential turning point in 2012. ftp://ftp.oar.noaa.gov/arctic/documents/ArcticReportCard_full_report2016.pdf From your comment you seemed to struggle to understand those who cheer the fact that yet again this year we will not be at an all time low. Let me tell you why people like myself cheer these changes, as our belief is that we are only experiencing climates natural oscillation (as noted on 1st and 2nd images) and the sooner we see ice above the mean for 2 or 3 years it brings us closer to the day when we will witness the bursting of the 'man-made-global-warming-climate-change-bubble', which now pretty much has claimed all extreme weather and related events such as wild-fires, droughts, floods, hurricanes, unexpected cold winters and very brief and far from excessive heatwaves. Anyway back to this years ice sheet which according to the DMI is clearly above the 30 year mean and since 2012 looks to be starting the next decadal oscillation.
  5. According to the DMI the Greenland Ice Sheet is comfortably above the 30 year average this August.
  6. Yet the overall ice sheet is comfortably above the 1981 - 2010 Mean.
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