Costa Del Fal

If the current GFS comes off, could be more slow moving thundery downpours this Friday-Sunday. This area could do without the heavy rain after last weeks floods but potential there for a very similar story to last week for some. One to watch. So much to clear up in the local nature reserve here which has seen devastation in parts and lots of conservation efforts which need to begin again.

Totally agree with this. I don't deny aspects of our climate have changed somewhat. Pretty much everything is always undergoing change but I do wonder how much past views are affected by particular stand out events. Especially wit increasing distance in time we tend to forget the 'boring nothingness' where it was just average. But surely amongst the supposedly great years there were also plenty of weeks like the last one which were very dull and wet. The weeks like last surely aren't new to our climate!! Everything comes and goes and there will always be good and bad times. Things change but has it changed THAT much?

Anyway, turning into a lovely afternoon here. Long sunny spells, a light breeze and pleasantly warm. The last week has been poor yes but overall May and the rest of June has been great for me. Enjoyed plenty of sunshine and even when it was a bit cloudier here in the Midlands, I was in Cornwall where the sun prevailed more. Some fantastic conditions seen. Moods seem to have turned rather negative about the rest of the summer over 1 weeks poor weather and some rather average charts ahead. Sure no heatwave but I reckon plenty of useable weather ahead.

Meteorological summer is only 3 weeks old and astronomical summer only began today. Think I will refrain from writing off summer just yet. What would happen to me if I said no cold spells likely for the rest of winter on December 21st? Lol

Does outflow causing backbuilding always tend to occur where the cell once was? I.e the cells here were very slowly travelling north to south so would they always build to the north? Could outflow have generated new cells to the west and east too?

Found a great twitter feed of an Environment Agency flood cam at Mushroom Green in the area where the Mousesweet Brook and Black Brook meet near me. Images are posted every few hours (daylight only in general). Here it is: https://twitter.com/B645BX?ref_src=twsrc^tfw Go to the 16th/17th June. It gives a great overview of how clear the trash screen and surrounding area was all clear and in good condition until late afternoon on Thursday. Then the water rises very high coming some way up the camera pole with water covering almost the whole image. And now what is left is so much debris washed down in the powerful flood. Incredible.

Found a great twitter feed of an Environment Agency flood cam at Mushroom Green in the area where the Mousesweet Brook and Black Brook meet near me. Images are posted every few hours (daylight only in general). Here it is: https://twitter.com/B645BX?ref_src=twsrc^tfw Go to the 16th/17th June. It gives a great overview of how clear the trash screen and surrounding area was all clear and in good condition until late afternoon on Thursday. Then the water rises very high coming some way up the camera pole with water covering almost the whole image. And now what is left is so much debris washed down in the powerful flood. Incredible.

Thanks for the above information both. Supacell, sounds about right. I was just a bit puzzled as I didn't think a convergence zone was expected here though perhaps it was a small one. The centre of the low still was not far away after all. really quite a phenomenal evening. The landscape in the woodland here has potentially been changed forever in places. All from a stream which usually is about no wider than 6-10ft and no deeper than about 1ft on average. Phenomenal increase in such a short space of time.

Click here for my account of yesterdays storms and flash flooding. Some unbelievable damage around here today. Just as a taster to the thread, below are a couple of images of the destruction, including a path totally washed away by something that is usually a gentle stream, fences ripped up and piled against each other... Visit the thread for loads more pictures though.

Yesterday brought quite easily one of the greatest rain and thunder storms I have ever encountered and one which I don't think I will see again or a very long time. All afternoon an area of rain was persistent just to our south whilst it remained dry here. Some will remember me commenting that it looked dry for the rest of the day here with nothing forming in a large zone from Lincolnshire to the W Midlands conurbation. Well, that rain to our south seemed to expand slightly this way and just became more and more intense. Watching the radar was really quite something, witnessing backbuilding to an extent and persistence I have not seen before, certainly at least in these parts. A constant stream of torrential precipitation seemed to originate over Dudley and push over Brierley Hill, Cradley, Quarry Bank and Stourbridge. As these cells developed, they eventually became thundery. There were numerous overhead flashes and long, deep booms of thunder. I think the lightning was mostly CC although I cannot say I took much notice as the rain was the real feature and being directly overhead, I could have missed any CG strikes. The rain drops were always of tropical size too and were huge. In a short space of time the roads were fast becoming rivers and it was all pooling up in any dips the water could find. One of these spots was by Saltwells Nature reserve for those who know it. Roads around The Delph, Brierley Hill and Merry Hill shopping centre were also extremely bad with shops closing early. Below are some of the pictures from my road last night along with the stream which rose so high which should just pass under my road through a culvert. However the shear amount of water meant it rose a significant number of feet and went over the road instead - something I have never seen before. Here was another street just around the corner... It certainly proved chaotic as people were just being diverted to streets which were also flooded, leaving many stuck and pondering how to get home. The council did it's best putting up road closed signs though I suspect they were running out of them with the number of incidents going on! This morning and the streams through the nature reserve are still rather dangerous albeit the levels have dropped. However it has revealed destruction, damage and the vast extent of the floods. Sadly, one path was completely washed away in the reserve to the power of the flood water and removed a significant extent of land, exposing the bare rock underneath. The reserve here used to be a significant mining site. The flow of water here is usually gentle and wading depth but last night, there was clearly a massive flood with such a force. I never expected to see the damage seen today and I am left stunned. It was clearly a very dangerous place to be with major erosion and scour in action. Conservation efforts which have included fencing made of old tree branches and new pathways have been destroyed. Footbridges have been left undermined with severe erosion around their banks... Here, was once a path, once surrounded by woodland on its fringes. Now taken over by the water which clearly swept away a massive amount of land... remember of all of this in an area where the streams are usually quite gentle on your average day... Further walking through the Saltwells Nature Reserve and on towards Mousesweet Nature Reserve, along the Black Brook reveals further incredible damage. Vegetation flattened, trees ripped up, fences ripped up and piled up against another fence, fences/gates covered in silt. In particular note in some photos where the vegetation on it's lower half is grey in colour and green at the top. A testimony to the height of the flood and the silt it contained. The grey colour again representing the deposit of silt. So, in summary, some quite incredible images. I am particularly keen to know why such backbuilding of the storm was so persistent over us yesterday. It was clearly localised but was there a small area of convergence overhead? I thought the main convergence was to the south and east of us yesterday. Did the winds from the north (what little there was of it!) and hilly topography to our north over the Black Country aid in the resultant downpours on the southern edge of the W Midlands conurbation where we are? Any answers greatly appreciated. Also please feel free to share your photos and any information you have here too.

Not sure if you mean here or over your way last week. I'm talking over a few hours. Take a look at the accumulation charts Mapantz posted last night. Still, a severe event on all accounts. Pictures on their way.

Plenty of cars flooded out, manhole covers etc all gone here too. I'm sure it was just as bad here. Everyone I have spoken to has never seen anything near as bad as last night. What were the rainfall accumulations from last weeks storm over you? Here must have been around ~75mm.

Yes, what went on last night was nothing short of phenomenal. Hoping to question some experts later on regarding the fundamental cause of such backbuilding that was seen yesterday. The local nature reserve looks like a tsunami has ripped through it.

The local woodland and nature reserve took a battering from last nights floods. Destruction in places. Pictures to come later today. Incredible scenes.

Cheers Mapantz. Difficult to make out but some fairly darkish reds over us so 76-96mm possible, but if not quite probably the 60-76mm bracket. Incredible.

My summary of today's serious flooding around here with pictures:

Wow, wow, wow is all I can say to this afternoon's/evenings events. How wrong was I when I said it was looking dry for the rest of the day here earlier. The complete opposite happened and probably became one of the wettest days ever recorded here instead...in the space of about 2 hours!!! A very significant feature of our weather today was a constantly backbuilding rash of cells just to my south initially this afternoon. Late this afternoon this grew a little over us and from there on in, it just did not stop for 2 hours. The radar shows how localised things were but each frame constantly revealed backbuilding of high precip rates from about Dudley and down to Quarry Bank/Stourbridge/Halesowen. The rain drops were always huge throughout as well. It took no time for the roads to start flooding but it sooned turned serious with places flooding where I did not think was ever possible/likely. Just round the corner from me, children had to be evacuated from a care home as flood waters rose. And nearby me a culvert was just so overwhelmed that the stream which runs through woodland and thus, under the road through the culvert became so overwhelmed, the stream must have risen some 10ft at a rough guess and went straight over the road instead. The road quickly became closed and I spent the time making sure vehicles turned around. Some cars did get stuck. And then there was the thunder and lightning which was constantly overhead with some brilliant, loud booms of thunder. Each restrengthening of the cells brought renewed thunder and lightning for a time. It really was the most intense spell of weather I have ever known especially for the rain. Could someone kindly post the NW accumulation radar for this area? I am really interested to know the figures. I really would not be surprised if this area manged ~75mm of rain maybe even more in just a couple of hours. Below are some of my pictures from the local area and also attached are some links with pictures of further flooding around the area. Note especially the flooding at Lye train station where the tracks pretty much became a canal! Links: http://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/news/14562695.The_Delph_in_Brierley_Hill_hit_by_flash_flooding/ http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2016/06/16/west-midlands-weather-roads-around-merry-hill-flooded-as-drivers-warned-not-to-travel/ In sum, this evening was so extreme I would not be surprised If I ever saw such an event again in this country in my life time. So localised but incredibly intense here. A lot of clearing up to be done tomorrow on the roads, pavements, gardens and some properties.

Unprecedented scenes here tonight. And more rain to come....

I reckon here will be 75mm plus. Extreme.

Omg rain radar shows another mass of heavy rain incoming!! extreme scenes tonight. Places flooded I never knew was possible. Photos coming later. This is something I don't think I will ever see in my life again. It's that extreme.

1845 frame another torrential cell building overhead!!!

Torrential rain returning yet again....

1840 frame shows loss of backbuilding to my north again!!! Another loud crash of thunder. Extreme. Anyone know the full cause of this this evening? Never known anything like this. Could be on for 75mm even 100mm at this rate...

Lightning and thunder frequency increasing again!

More back building on latest radar 1835? Some extreme phenomena here to keep causing this. Still lightning and thunder overhead. Incredible scenes.