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Hi Catacol, a good post, but my first thoughts when I read it were "ok, ECM forecasting increased vorticity in the Greenland corridor of death in ten days time, however, we already have a strong Scandi high in place, so where will the energy from the increased vorticity go?, Under the block or over it?"I'm not sure we can answer that for certain yet.
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Certainly any cold is only likely to come from the East or North West as the NAO is forecast to remain positive for a good while yet. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.shtml At least the AO forecast shows a good few member going negative indicating that at the very least cold air will be leaving the Pole for mid latitudes.. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.shtml Zonal mean temperatures over the Pole at 30hpa are at least back to average, so hopefully the PV will be packing less punch, have perhaps the models been overplaying the PV recently? http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/temperature/30mb9065.gif
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Ireland Regional Weather Discussion 14/1/14 21z ------->
mountain shadow replied to A.J's topic in Regional
Hi Ronan, All eyes remain on the Stratosphere at the moment, I reckon no real cold until mid February at the earliest although there may be the odd day with wintriness. -
This to me is the key to any prolonged cold spell. The ever present Canadian PV starts sending a portion Eastwards, If we can get some decent amplification behind the low and a full separation of this portion from the main vortex, I believe the Azores High will ridge in behind to connect with the Artic/Scandi High. Amplification looks good here. http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140120/18/132/h500slp.png
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Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I'm pretty certain those turning colder at the end of the week forecasts were made prior to the 12z. -
Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I didn't think upper heights like that were possible over the pole in late January? AO would be through the floor. http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140117/12/264/npsh500.png -
Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Stop looking East for snow, if its coming, its coming from the North, been that way for a week now.. http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140117/12/204/h500slp.png The same signal three runs in a row, with proper Greenland heights and getting closer too. And we all know GFS is great at Northerlies. http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140117/12/240/h500slp.png -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
mountain shadow replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Right on queue for the end of the month too. -
Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Agreed Cecil, You can also see shortwave energy spilling past Southern Greenland, which is normally a game over for Easterlies. The Scand High is however proving stubborn to shift, that's for sure. -
Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Shannon Entropy was the buzz word on here last Winter thanks to Ian. It basically means chaos theory rules and no certainty can be given to one outcome or another. Another less pleasing phrase, might be, fence sitting. -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
mountain shadow replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
No. -
Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
And why has low pressure dominated around Iceland?Because the PV has been vigorous and at home in NE Canada spitting energy Eastwards relentlessly. This Winter so far has had times of decent amplification of the jet over the Eastern Pacific and the CONUS but little has changed here because of where the PV has located.Until the PV shifts and there are signs in the Stratospheric output that it will towards month end, then we are stuck where we are. -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
mountain shadow replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Whilst there is still a long way to go, you must be pleased that there are growing signs of the back end Winter cold you forecast?As an aside, I love the positivity in this thread compared to tropospheric model output one. -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
mountain shadow replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
And more importantly we are no longer at T+15 days, the relative warming is getting closer. Looking at the likely upper PV location in ten to fifteen days I think we should be looking for a tropospheric Northerly for The British Isles not an Easterly. -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
mountain shadow replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
If I knew the answer to that, i'd be a millionaire. :-0 Hopefully the warming signals increase and continue and we may start to see the tropospheric model output beginning to react in about a week to ten days time at the outer range of its output. -
Model Output Discussion - 10th Jan Onwards
mountain shadow replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Zonal throughout, temperatures average to slightly below. Any wintryness confined to hills and mountains. -
Stratosphere Temperature Watch 2013/2014
mountain shadow replied to chionomaniac's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Ben, The warming is in the upper Stratosphere. If it does actually occur by the end of the month then the downwelling can take anything from a couple of days to a few weeks. So a date of around 10th February is my guess before colder weather arrives. That is of course if the warming verifies.