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Daniel* You're the one always calling other people out and ridiculing them. Just because the coldies like all your posts doesn't mean there aren't a lot of others that are thinking exactly the same as me. You called one poster out for playing down the cold and stated that temps wouldn't reach double figures in Manchester. I feel in making your point you majorly exaggerate at times.

severe snowstorm Bizarre that Wilmslow seems to be getting so much more rain than other parts of Cheshire- it was dry and mostly sunny here until about 3pm and then we had some extremely heavy showers that are continuing now with some hail at times. We had a lot of rain yesterday afternoon as well. Areas to the west such as Northwich and areas to the east such as Macclesfield haven't had nearly as much it seems.

In Absence of True Seasons It's cooler here than London but not as much as many of you think. The difference between October/November and April is often minimal I find. More noticeable in the summer for sure. In spring it's not unusual for the odd day to be warmer here than the SE if the wind is easterly for example.

Alderc 2.0 All I will say is I think some might be surprised by next week. There will be more sunshine than many are expecting and it could be pleasant in the sun in sheltered spots in the afternoons.

B87 Yes as a monthly average. I thought you meant the odd day. It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a dull, rainy day to max out at 12-14C in London in May.

Alderc 2.0 Looks bad but those charts always look worse than the reality. April 2021 looked terrible in terms of the 850 hPa temps but it was very sunny and much better than this month so far in that regard. The night time frosts are a problem (and annoying) but strong sunshine (if we get it) in the day now will raise temps higher than many are expecting. On the south coast you will do okay in a NE flow.

B87 Those sorts of temps are not 'exceptionally cold' in May, even in London. Cooler than average yes but it's not unheard of for temps to struggle to get out of double figures in May- even in the south. May 28th 2007- max of 7.4C at Heathrow. Now that is exceptional. Looking back over the last few Mays as well- Heathrow has had a fair few days at 14C or below.

LetItSnow! I'm not denying it's going to be chilly but one poster in particular is keen to emphasise how exceptionally bad this is going to be- so I stand by my hyperbole comment.

Daniel* Why do your posts always have to be so antagonistic? Not true at all that the temps won't get out of double figures in Manchester even in the setups shown this morning by the models. 850 hPa temps were much lower in April 2021 than what is being shown for next week in this area and we reached double figures in the afternoons for the most part. April 13th 2021- we reached 12.6C in this setup (after a frost I might add). GFS surface temp chart for next Wednesday: Admittedly this NE flow is not good for the east but it's not terrible for all of us by any means. Anywhere west of the Pennines may get close to average in this setup by day. A lot of hyperbole about this spell from certain posters. It's certainly going to be more notable in London relative to average than it is in Manchester.

One of the worst Met Office forecasts ever for this area today? They couldn't have been any more wrong.

Rush2019 It's been quite wet in Wilmslow- seems bizarre that some places not too far away are missing the rain.

Frigid Slightly below average at 850 hPa doesn't necessarily mean 'chilly' though. Just as high 850 hPa temps don't guarantee 'above average' temps at the surface. As always there will be local variation depending on wind direction and sunshine.

More rain- horrendous and much worse than forecast. Sunshine this morning but it was all too good to be true. It really is beyond a joke.

Throwing it down here now after some sunshine this morning- you really couldn't make it up. Not only is the rain always worse/heavier than forecast, but it always seems to rain at some point even on a 'dry' day. By far the worst period of weather I can remember in my lifetime. We really are getting nowhere in terms of the ground drying out. A few hours of sunshine and it starts to dry out, and then it throws it down again and we're back to where we started. If this isn't enough to make someone consider emigrating, I don't know what is.

Only 29.5 hours here so far- an absolute shocker of a month for sunshine. If it carried on this way it would undoubtedly be one of the dullest Aprils on record locally.

Far too cold. It was better than this April sunshine-wise of course. But April should have only occasional frosts- not virtually every night.

Greyhound81 The reason is purely the much stronger sun in April as well as the longer days. The October sun is weakening through the month and later on in the month is on a par with late February.

markyo The light levels this morning were the worst for weeks here while it was raining. Impossible to plan anything outdoors on days like this. Biting cold wind as well. I've just played football this evening in short sleeves and my forearms were still cold at the end of the game. Had enough of this now and enough rain to last a lifetime over these past few months.

Frigid Glad you can find some positives- didn't feel very pleasant to me with that biting wind, even when the sun was out. This morning was atrocious here. Freezing cold wind, constant heavy rain/hail and incredibly dark. I've found today more depressing than a day of constant drizzle.

What an absolute shocker of a day- feels truly horrible in the wind and rain. Some sunshine this afternoon but incredibly suppressed temps given the air mass isn't overly cold. We haven't made it into double figures here.

Can't wait to see the back of this absolutely appalling day. It's a nightmare for the garden with the blossom out or on the way out. Just hope things recover.

cheese The BBC local automated forecasts are shocking nowadays. Met Office are much better but overdo cloud amounts and often underdo the temps I find.

Met. Not sure why looking at the fax charts. No weather fronts across your area after today. Showers can't be ruled out but it looks almost completely dry for your area after today.

Horrific day. Just so glad it's probably the last day like this for a while.

Looks like it might finally be happening- after a good 6 months at least! It has been a long slog but let's hope we get a prolonged dry period now. This GFS run is one of the best it's produced for some time with high pressure drifting over the UK as opposed to staying out west.