[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Light covering here.  A promising shower heading down through Northumberland all but pettered out by the time it reached here.

However... a reminder that NE is great for snow if the wind direction is right. NW or NNW wind is dry and sunny every time!

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

4 minutes ago, seabreeze86 said:

That fax chart is for 12pm tomorrow isn’t it after the favourable wind direction ?

Yes.  As the chart only shows 12hr intervals, I take it that the feature running down the coast was further north earlier

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Showers seem to be making their way further south in NE Scotland now....

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

2 minutes ago, Boro Snow said:

I don't understand why there is a warning in place if that's the case 

They have to give one as there is a risk of snow.  Does not mean you will get it due to the nature of showers... however, very occasionally it goes the other way and there is an unexpected snow outbreak...this is rare.... unless there is a NE'ly

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

6 minutes ago, Phil Blake said:

The met office radar you scan scroll forward for radar prediction. Whitby looks to do well. North Northumberland coast might do ok but anything in between I think can pretty much forget it

 

You can see why on the FAX chart

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

12 minutes ago, NorthEastSnow said:

Does anyone have any predicted snow shower charts because snow radar only show North Yorkshire / Humberside getting all the showers missing our regions altogether.

edit -4.9 here  

Go  here.  Choose UK Snow risk.  You can see there is a moderate risk for NE coast from 3am, then a higher risk for North Yorkshire after 7am.   TBH its going to take a change in the predicted wind direction for showers to hit NE coast.  Be very lucky to get even one here....

Check this again at about 10pm tonight...

GFS Hourly Charts - Netweather.tv

WWW.NETWEATHER.TV

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Hourly weather charts from the GFS model - updated four times a day

 

 

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

Just now, seabreeze86 said:

Very cold here already -3. Anything that falls tonight will settle instantly. Just need some luck now 

-5.3 here....

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

You can see in the charts the wind direction buckling to what looks like a true northerly for a time in the early hours... before shifting to a NW later in the day.

The devil will be in the detail!  If it does make a northerly, how long for will determine which parts get some snow.  I would not be expecting anything inland at all.  Coastal regions favoured.  Especially N.Yorks.

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

12 minutes ago, Gizzy said:

Strange I can't remember that one too much, but maybe I was too young and daft then to appreciate it ( though not that young - mid 20s lol ).

 

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

8 minutes ago, Gizzy said:

What was the wind direction in Feb 18, I recall that really cold spell as I started a new job in Durham and had to travel 40 mile through blizzards, only to get there to be told the local lad I was meeting couldn't get in for the snow.

Sure that was an easterly and I remember the ice days, boiler condensers freezing and ice covering the windows.

But do agree NE is best for us too.

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The real beast!!!

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

2 minutes ago, Gizzy said:

This whole cold spell ( promised so much a week ago ) has been quite underwhelming in terms of snow.

I do like a hard frost and we have had them and lovely cold mornings, another very hard frost tonight and possibly a couple of snow showers next few days but that will be it I guess.

Met office still touting the easterly in Feb but once again suggesting a dry easterly.

NE'ly is best.  The last easterly "beast from the east" was only good for snowfall well inland...  Feb 1991 was the last time I saw a real potent beast.  Shower after shower.  White out conditions and over a foot of snow to the coast by morning.

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

44 minutes ago, Chris Smith said:

Pouring with rain just now. Is that it then? I'm underwhelmed.

We are in the warm sector.  Colder air is already in S.Scotland heading south.

Watch the radar as the transition in forecast to bring a band of precipitation down with 100% chance of being snow by midnight (according to gfs!)

Then before Friday, FAX chart showing chance of a couple of features which could bring some snow....

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

16 minutes ago, P-M said:

I can confirm light rain here in south tyneside. 

 

I see the next potential chase is on, this time for the beast which is far more exciting in my opinion than a northerly. 

Problem with this blast is its not been a direct Northery.  More of a NNW'ly.

Problem with an easterly is the airmass needs to be very cold to get snow on the areas 10 miles or less from the coast (unless you have elevation).   

 

IMO the very best direction for snow showers is a direct northerly OR even better NE'ly where you get streamers forming (2010).  The airmass does not need to be as cold to get snow right along the coast.   Only issue would be if you are well inland!!!

 

 

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion - Dec 2023 onwards]

4 hours ago, Continental Climate said:

Fluffy snow here our distance from the sea definitely helps at times. 

I don't think that matters in a westerly flow. (for North East parts nearer the coast)  Its your elevation.

[Model Output Discussion - Colder but how cold and for how long?]

56 minutes ago, tight isobar said:

Ec 12z plots-ens… mustard upto the 22nd.. after that pick your pert/ member??!!…    A cold spell is coming… the jackpot question- still remains, how notable.. n, how prolonged…    Keep watching.

From my memory... decent cold spells are always downgraded in the days leading up to the incursion.... and often upgraded in the 48hr period...then often last longer than expected...as the saying goes...get the cold in...

[Summer 2023 chat]

Well at least there are no fires to light for the just stop oil protestors this year... at least in the UK 

[Summer 2023 chat]

Just read the netweather summer forecast.  July is the exact opposite of what actually happened.  Whats the point?

 

Why almost every time when I read the Model Output Discussion does someone say "The models are struggling at the moment".... Aren't they always at some point in the timeline?

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

3 hours ago, Phil Blake said:

The temp has dropped off a cliff the past hour or so. Car said 13c driving home just after half 3. It's now 4c 2 and half hours later 

Pity it wasn't 9 dropping to 0 as there would have been a dumping of snow!

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

The rain passing over the region right now.  Its heavy stuff.  Imagine if it was snow.  What you could class as "Heavy Snow"

 

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

1 minute ago, Tucka20 said:

It's bizarre. Just had a look myself. The small side street I live on isn't covered yet Whickham highway at lobley hill is white. We must have been unluckily in a gap all night! I reckon no more than a cm on grass that will be gone by 11am.

I think this can be explained by the patchy nature of the ppn.  You could see this on the radar last night.   The bands between heavier and lighter were fairly static, leading to an uneven distribution

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

2 minutes ago, Summer Sun said:

Easily 5cm to 10cm in Darlo it really came down thick and fast as the snow to the south of town merged with the snowers from the sea

Better get the ruler out as thats a big difference!

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

It seems that the north has not got the snow depths expected.  Check out the camera on A689.  Not really much there.  Looking on the other threads its S.Yorkshire thats done well.  Some areas getting 25cm and still going.

https://www.durham.gov.uk/weathercameras?action=detail&camera=13

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

Light snow continues to fall here.  Thats 4 mornings in a row with a light snow covering, which for March is memorable!

 

Looks to be some heavier snow nearby coming in off the sea

 

1 minute ago, MonkeyMag said:

Chucking it down with snow again now in Whitley bay !!, huge shower just on us but think it will be last decent one 

Thats the one thats headed for me,  Could be the first heavier snow of the spell if it hits here

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

Moderate snow here now as the convective showers hit.  Seems to be laying which is bizarre considering it's 2.5c.

[Far north and northeast of England weather discussion]

3 minutes ago, Hagler said:

There's very little snow in Morpeth, its cold, windy and wet. 

Well hes a liar then!  He is about 3 miles east.  Can you take a pic so I can catch him out?