I've come across this amazing new concept for forum posting here on NetWeather....It revolves around actually heeding the site-members requests with regard to posting on-topic, non argumentative, non-biased, non sniping/baiting posts et al....you know, the sort of posts that members agree not to post when they join the forum.....perhaps a few members who frequent the Model Output Discussion should embrace this concept...Go on, give it a try, what have you got to lose?....