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The rain belt currently appears to be intensifying as it is moving north - and all the forecasts seem to indicate that it will survive the journey.

Where are you viewing an updated warning from? The last Yorkshire update on the MetOffice site was 14:05 as far as I can see. The Rother looks to be in trouble around Rotherham from what I have seen too. It has risen significantly this afternoon and is almost certain to flood if heavy rains do come this evening.

BFTP - it's been a long time since I posted on this site, though I do still visit it from time to time. Have just read the summary you have given regarding global cooling. As you may be aware (or not!), I have tended to support the concept of natural cycles being dominant over man made global warming. However, in all the arguments and debates that there have been on this topic in recent years, nobody has previously to my knowledge mentioned the 230 year cycle with the 2 warm peaks. I am aware of the 2030 Minimum that is due - but where has this information arisen from regarding significant phase 2 cooling from 2023? I assume that this is something that is at odds with the science community at large, as global warming is clearly still the theme, even allowing for the cooling that has started to occur.

You said it GW - the effects of the virus itself are only part of the problem. The rest of the problem is with the nature of humanity in the west. We are too used to comforts, luxuries and medical excellence, and are just not equipped to cope with anything out of the ordinary. The fuel protest was a case in point - not just the fuel, but the stupidity of those buying 34 loaves of bread and 65 packs of sugar just in case.

Whilst we as humans often talk about major catastrophes killing millions without ever seeing it happen, it would seem to me that the H5N1 virus poses a major risk. I came down with flu - 102F temperature, fever etc, and what I noted was just how easy it is to catch. It seems to hit the population of this country every year to some extent. Add into the mix a dangerous killer strain, and it really isn't difficult to see how this could spread dramatically. Once H5N1 is in an easy to spread human to human form, it will be round the world like wildfire. Furthermore, there is no way that it could be contained anymore than ordinary flu is contained.

PottyProf - unless the rain stops falling relatively soon, Catcliffe is going to be in trouble again. The River Rother was still very high even before the rain began at 4pm this afternoon. Since then it has intensified and the forecast does not appear to offer great hope. Rotherham Council say they are better prepared this time. We will see.

Well, the heavy snow has arrived in Rotherham and I have to concur with DS regarding the Sheffield conditions. I have just done a journey from Dore across the ring road, and seen numerous places where cars have skidded off, watched a car skid continuouslu up a hill, had a few myself which I was confidently able to control. By the way, there is one gritter out on the ring road so half of it was okay, the half I was driving on was pretty bad though. Awesome stuff. At long last, the snow is falling intensely and over a long period of time. It is even intense in Brinsworth, the worst place in South Yorkshire for snow.

Don't give up yet mate. As TEITS says, the heavier the precipitation the more the likelihood of it turning to snow, and so far the heavy stuff has not arrived in Rotherham. SW Sheffield is a good 16 miles nearer the main precipitation band than Brinsworth, and I again am closer than Swinton. If it arrives here, I will let you know.

Allenar Not sure where you are in Rotherham, but that may be a factor. I am in Brinsworth and we have light drizzle. Just been speaking with my mother in SW Sheffield though (Dore) and it has been snowing for 1.5 hrs there and has just turned really heavy. The height is everything. If you are in Wickersley, you should start seeing something. Personally, I am off to Dore in the next hour or two. Awful traffic, say the media? Who cares!!

Maxdamage... Just down in Rotherham we are having the same problem with high temps and sleety rain. The snow reports show that the system is producing snow north of us and south of us. Is it really likely that snow will fall here, or realistically are we going to miss out on anything significant. The BBC radar seemed to show a heavy band over us later on, but no evidence of that on the ground. KY

The morning snow is a total bonus. The main snow is not progged to reach us until the afternoon, with the heavier stuff later on in the day. I woke to snow outside and was pleasantly surprised because I expected it to be clear. I am in Rotherham, but essentially Sheffield will take a bigger hit than I will because of the elevation. Chin up - we have something and more to come. UTB.

Snow arrived in Rotherham in the thin band at the front of the main band of precipitation. Sufficiently heavy to provide a full 1cm - 1.5cm covering. This is a bonus as forecasters had not predicted snow to start falling here until midday, with the heavier stuff later on. Will take my 10mth old daughter out to experience it for the first time in a little while. Temps interestingly at 2.1C. Snow currently stopped.

Interesting charts those Snow-man2006. Judging by that the best place to be post 12pm will be Derbyshire, Cheshire, Lancashire and South Yorkshire as these areas are constantly in the decent snowfall zone. I suspect that the truth is that the main snowbelt will be further south, though I am sure we will get some action in South Yorks.

You're only just down the road from me. It depends how far north the Atlantic system gets, but South Yorkshire is highly likely to get some snow tomorrow - the question is how much?

Mrs KY is 27 today, and so far it has been a pretty excellent day. K has been causing mayhem in the household, chewing her way through the shoes, pulling the DVDs off the shelf, and helping herself to the washing. I have been continuing to put loads of items for sale on Amazon, which has been a fantastic way of raising money for our trip to Russia later this month. The whole thing has finally come together, after we booked the flights earlier this week and managed to find a place who would get visas sorted for us without charging a massive amount for a quick turnaround. The one wonderful thing about heading to Samara is that, whether this current cold spell is successful or not, snow is guaranteed for me for the middle of the month. Much of the Samaran 5 day forecasts in recent times have had snow possibilities on 4 out of the 5 days. There is no doubt we live too far west. At 17:55 I am sitting here writing my blog whilst watching South Africa bid to chase down Pakistan's 351, which seems a tall order. Even accounting for the talent of the Australians, I think we are possibly the only side in the world capable of doing this. Currently 88-2 after 15, so the game is not over, even though the loss of De Villiers was a big blow. Anyway, let's talk about the forthcoming snow event as we are on a weather site. It seems to me that in Rotherham we are either too far north, too far south, too far east or too far west for most events. I know I have to be careful with my moments when people come from places like Abingdon, but even there must surely be about to hit gold tonight. It seems that the system is going to stall somewhere to the southwest of us, over the Birmingham area. Snow looks like a real possibility but much will depend on how far north the system can drag itself into the cold air. It is nice to have a preparation time for Russia in weather terms before we go. Whatever happens though, I thoroughly enjoyed the -7 this morning, and made a special trip outside to deice the car. It is so nice to have proper winter weather for a change. I'd post a picture of snow, but I do not have any. Must get the camera out if it does snow tomorrow. Whoever you are, and wherever you come from (though if you are north of me you are struggling), I wish you much snow over the next 24hrs.