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In Absence of True Seasons Oh yeah definitely, if we’ve had a stinker spring and/or summer then nice weather come Sept/Oct it does feel a bit wasted. Definitely felt that a bit in late Sept and early October 2008… Likewise cold in March and April after a naff winter.

In Absence of True Seasons Any good weather in September I would welcome with open arms given it’s in the Atlantic half of the year. Anything to delay the onset of the depressing season.

Good to see a greening of the Iberian peninsula following the abundance of cool wet weather down there so far this year.

*Stormforce~beka* It’s not as simple as that. You’ve got to consider airmass source, high or low pressure, time of year etc.

danm Indeed, although convective infill isn’t a feature of winter months.

danm We'll have to agree to disagree then, but it's a well known issue. Same in summer. High pressure but with cool upper air often sees infill problems. When the upper air warms up with pressure still high, you'll often get cloudless conditions.

danm Sure, the centre was, but pressure was still very high over most of the UK. We need to get rid of the cold upper air. The weekend's set up with 850s of say 5-10 would've been much sunnier nationwide.

danm I think even more so we need warmer upper air. Pressure was around 1025-1030mb over the weekend but central England eastwards saw a lot of infill after clear starts. Brilliant sunshine here in the West Country though.

baddie It’s more down to the air source. You can get the same effect in winter months but obviously it’s a lot colder. That said, I’ve also seen some pretty stunning sunsets from Atlantic sourced setups.

*Stormforce~beka* A very dull month, but more a dress rehearsal for July onwards… both May and June had over 250 hours here.

TwisterGirl81 Since last June!

baddie Much better air quality from the south round to the northeast. Deeper blue sky and stronger sun but generally more boring sunrises and sunsets

raz.org.rain I must caveat my post with the fact that there was plenty mediocre westerly naffness between those charts… but 1-2 weeks of solid summer every month with episodes of less settled is definitely preferable to all our summer coming in June and for five minutes in August and September like last year!

*Stormforce~beka* There is hope...

In Absence of True Seasons It happens at least every other year even here and we have double the annual rainfall of London lol.

In Absence of True Seasons Indeed. April 2010 and 2017 also had a lot of cool but dry and often bright conditions that were better than the cool/dull/wet alternative. Looking through recent runs, it doesn't seem to matter which direction the weather is coming from, 'trough' is the word for this country. Very stubborn cyclonic conditions in these parts with varying degrees of cool or warmer. Not unheard of at this time of year but very disappointing and definitely not helping the yearning for something more seasonal. I'm taking a trip to southern Spain in the first full week of May so expect models to pick up on high pressure moving into the UK during that time...

A brilliant weekend of sunshine, which would have had me sitting out for the first time starting the tan build up, if not for the damned wind. Almost there.

Metwatch Interestingly, that 02nd October chart looks like a standard rPm cyclonic setup Wouldn't even be able to tell it was a plume looking at that.

damianslaw This is very much the time of year for changeable conditions... Highs in funny places, lows coming in from different angles and not following traditional trajectories... not unusual for April & May. By June (latest!) I would expect to see low pressure to have been shoved well north with more high pressure influence. A long way to go it would seem, although the latter frames of the GFS 06Z making an effort to make high pressure over Europe a bit more influential against a simultaneously stubborn Atlantic!

Plume storms that end up just skimming the southeast tend to be the ones that go wrong or are ‘cut short’ by the westerly influence shunting things along too quickly. The classics tend to affect the SW and/or the S Central region first before advancing north and east.

Someone’s definitely getting sacked from the Department of Cloud Seeding & Weather Interference..!

Surprisingly pleasant this afternoon and the temperature not bad either, surpassing 16 degrees!

Floatylight Your interpretation. It shows a 11°C max for your location.

Floatylight Where lol? Certainly not Essex…

raz.org.rain That’s a deal I can’t turn down!