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Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
No worries! ICON 6z if anything pushing the cold air even further back over the weekend. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You could make the argument that what I describe did happen on the main models, that's true. You can never rule anything out but I wouldn't be pinning any hopes on it. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I would... There is not going to be the scale of change required at 2 - 3 days on any model to really impact the Christmas weekend at this stage. I'm all for optimism but there just isn't. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You're talking 48 to 72 hours out. Could it happen? I guess. Will it? Keeping it real no, it won't at this stage. It would take something really remarkable. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
100% justified. If you see what you want to see and ignore runs or models that don't offer confirmation you're going to get in to trouble. The charts you posted illustrate perfectly regarding ICON why it's so good but others too. Just not the "main" ones referenced here so often. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It's over. It really is. Don't put yourself through it again -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
But it wasn't. Sure, there were changes around the edges but it was rock solid throughout otherwise. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Why? Some of us knew it was a bust long before. Which means it's not a bust to us. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Not saying anyone should ditch anything, just take all data in to account. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You'd be looking at max temps somewhere, between 16 and 18c there... -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You could probably have an outdoor bbq on this -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The all conquering ICON. Superb -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Thoughts on the "cold spell" while watching the ECM come out... -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
And ECM 00z ends it completely, finished dead... It actually couldn't be any more dead. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The Japanese, a great bunch of lads... -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ICON nailed this two days a go. Pity it was ignored by so many here for whatever reason. UKMO/GFS this morning mark the end of any remaining hopes for Christmas weekend. Let's hope it won't be too long for more excitement -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ICON 00z same as always. It's great to see such consistency, unfortunately not the type we want. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
To cheer things up a little I note the latest CFS 12z provides easterlies or northeasterlies through to January 6th... -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Control run FWIW 850's (25th Saturday). 12z v 18z -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I hope ICON gets the credit it should here because it has been absolutely consistent throughout as it has been many times since it was made available. There is ICON above and latest UKMO above that today. Consistent for the last few days and that's where the other models have mostly been converging to. It's proving again to be really worthwhile following! I think it's really good -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Don't do drug kids edit: image fixed -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ECM to 120 is 'meh'. Synoptically OK, some potential if it evolves in later runs but temperature wise nothing noteworthy away from northeast England/Scotland. We haven't really advanced toward more certainty today overall. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Summed up... -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Imagine we were presented with this chart from the UKMO... Without knowing the temperature profile you'd be pretty disappointed on first look. Actually that GFS chart is a snow fest for some for a time. -
Model discussion - hunt for cold - Christmas countdown
The Eagle replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
ICON continues it's rock solid theme keeping the real cold air adrift over the Christmas weekend period and southerly/southeasterly winds entrenched for a time ahead of approaching low pressure. There is a bit of variability around the edges, and it may take some colder air further south by Monday, as always but we need to see a good bit more really in the not too distant future.