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Roger J Smith I'm getting the feeling this could be one of them years Roger.

Don Indeed they were, 1975 seems to have been particularly snowy, and 1981 had a massive blizzard and snowdrifts in and around the Midlands later in the month. Also Just spotted 1950, well before my time, that produced 15cm of snow in the south around the 25th/26th of April. April can be the most unpredictable of all of the months of the year, like early summer one day and like late winter the next.

BlueSkies_do_I_se Thats it, well done. I personally have experienced very heavy snow when I was a young child in the early 70's in Mid April, it was on a Good Friday but cant remember the year and some extreme cold with snowfall in the west country back in the mid 70's right at the end of the month.

April can certainly deliver quite a cold burst in the 2nd half of the month, even after a mild or very mild 1st half. I remember reading about years like 1908 when even on the south coast places were seeing frosts and snowfall, there are pictures of Southampton, fuzzy black and white, and showing a foot of snow in the last week of April. I personally can remember some very cold spells of weather late in the month, this would be quite a contrast this year as compared to the very mild first half, and producing possibly a record breaking colder 2nd half if some of recent model runs are to be believed.

WYorksWeather Thanks. Thought we had gone higher by now, it certainly seemed like it by just looking out of the window. Anyway if GFS is on the money we could be easily looking at another 40mm or so.

Where do we stand so far this month for rainfall? I suspect it must be close to 70mm or just a bit over by now. The rest of the month did look to be dominated by HP over or close to the UK, but a more unsettled end of the month now could be more likely, so might we be looking at another 100mm month by any chance?

Don I think you would need some frosty nights to achieve this.

BlueSkies_do_I_see l think that you can change upto and including the 3rd of the month, with penalties of course.

9.8c and 127mm please. Mild, cloudy and wet.

Don Ten of us have gone for 7.7c, 7.8c or 7.9c, them numbers are looking red hot!

7.8c and 87.5mm please.

Snow tyre It would certainly make a change if rain missed us.

LightningLover Yes I was diverted too earlier, nightmare.

Strong NE winds for most of the day, more flooding St Leonards/Hastings, cars being stopped and sent back.

TROY No doubt about it, would have missed us if it was cold enough for snow!

Scorcher It's been so mild this winter in western Europe generally speaking that we would probably need some very cold uppers in place at this time of the year to see low daytime temps, has felt more like late March down here. I can see night temps still being quite low next week, it would seem to me that it will be the last 2 days that will decide the fate of the February CET record. Strong SE wind along the south coast, now veering more easterly, just started raining and temp up to 8c. Possibly almost 24 hours of PPN to come from this channel low, all rain of course south of the M4, another top up to PPN totals. I remember having an old Weather Lore book when I was at school, probably printed well before my time in the 1940s/1950s, explained a lot about weather fronts, wind direction, air pressure. I remember for late winters it would say, beware in late winters pressure falling, SE/East winds off the cold continent, likelihood of widespread heavy snow particularly in the SE of the UK, with a picture of a village in Kent covered in thick snow. Joke!

Upgrade for the rainfall it would seem this morning with close to 24 hours of RAIN in the far SE as the low pivots!

Tomorrow should be 8.275c so rounded up to 8.3c., quite exciting this. There were some pretty low temps last night, noticed -3/-4c. Temps dropping away quite quickly again this evening ahead of tomorrows cloud and rain in the south.

Neilsouth Yes I was thinking that too, heavy rain with hail yesterday here, more today, then about 10 hours of rain for tomorrow and into Monday morning south of the M4 from the channel low. HAD ENOUGH!! Of course we all know that if it was cold enough for snow, it would miss us all completely and not even clip the SE coast.

I would still be cautious, I notice we had some 0c temps around already earlier this evening presumably as clearer skies move westwards. I calculated that if we get some lower night temps (0-3c) in the next week even with relatively high day temps (5-8c) we could see a drop to around 7.8c.

Not looking too impressive any more.

WINTRY WALES Indeed. I was up at 1.300m on the Italian/Austran border not long ago and saw fresh snowfall, but at 1,200m slightly further down it was wet.

Omnipresent Azores high back to it's usual winter location, up it comes, game over. I often ask myself, how on earth can a block/northern blocking ever set up in any favourable position for sustained UK cold, even if teleconnections/AO/NAO/PNA and of course SSW's are looking red hot when we see this same pattern year in year out in our winters? Yes some of the time, but surely not always these days. I know there has been a lot of discussion in the past with regards to the Azores high being so far north and west in winter, maybe it is our default pattern to an extent, but much of Western Europe has had hardly any snow, or rain, yet again this year even in mountain areas like in Northern Italy, it's not just our little island. All very strange if you ask me.

reef From these silly high levels I always thought that just a 5 day "average" cold snap could reduce the CET by 1c, one week of "deeper cold" by 1.5/2c. Can't see even the 1c drop happening now.

Even this late Feb cold snap looks feeble, may upgrade, but historically speaking there has been more cold air to larch onto in April/May with the set up that is showing. So depressing that it's just going to be more wet and cold rain for most of us. I had expectations of something a bit more seasonal for the 2nd half of the month, not more rain, so we are going from mild rain to cold rain... when will it end?