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Behave lol. I said "COMPARED"!!!! The economic fallout from this virus is VERY much more than just the financial markets, it will effect literally every single person, but you're free to believe whatever you want.

Yeh, the markets are nothing, and affects a tiny percentage compared to the overall economic affect on nearly every single person.

Yeh I agree. I was told off for dismissing his credentials earlier in the thread, but calling all this years ago is just the stopped clock theory. There's nothing we could of done to prevent all this, its just something we have to deal with hear and now. I could tell everyone we'll have a 1963 snow event sometime in the next 100yrs, and I'd probably be right, but does that mean I can predict the future lol?

Yeh I fully agree with this. Its something a lot of people forget when they slate how under resourced the NHS is, and yet if we were to charge non nationals, there'd be uproar. I'm sure I read an article recently about that might change in the future, but as you say, not for this thread!

He's optimistic about eradicating the virus, because it will come back, unless countries shut their borders for a year or two. However he is right about the financial side of things. Markets have been on borrowed time for a while now, so a market crash was inevitable, this has just brought it forward.

I doubt the cash machine will be empty, but even if it is, surely you could get cash back from one of the shops, especially as its only £40?

Can you not pay by card rather than get cash out?

Yeh. Its more likely they are just relocating them to a more suitable location for some sort of logistical reason or something (if they arent on a normal route). Even if they did deploy tanks, I cant see what use they would be lol.............although if anything good can come out of all this, then I wanna see a tank rolling down my street (and not on a truck)!!

To be fair, as usual, that is doing the rounds on Twitter, BUT it doesnt mean anything. Tanks are transported all the time, its just people are more alert to it now, same with any military vehicle.

HAHA, I know what you mean. I'm a fairly cheery happy person. Going on eurostar for example, I stop at the UK checkpoint leaving, cheery hello, cheers mate, all that usual stuff, and I get the expected reply from the UK guy of "thanks, have a good day etc etc", all with a smile. Leaving France at the French passport control (and bare in mind we're leaving, so they should be happy), I'm saying the usual cheery hello, and I get the most miserable person you could imagine, who instantly assumes everyone is a terrorist, and just says "passport", not even a thank you or good bye lol. I know I'm being picky, but manners are high up my list, and overall the French authorities had none lol. I know its different cultures etc, just makes me chuckle.

A mate of mine who's a wholesale meat supplier reckons there's a chicken shortage (or will be) due to a lot of it being imported. Why chicken I dont know, because we import lots of food, but whatever the reason, he says chicken is currently short (for him anyway, may not be the case everywhere) I cant stand all the panic buying, so only just done our weekly shop tonight. Same reports from me really. Most stuff still just about in stock, except beans, soup, bread, pasta, and bleach lol. As you say, it'll all be back in stock eventually. Sadly it shows just how many dumb sheep there are out there. If everyone just did their weekly shop as usual, it would all be fine.

More and more good news, so fingers crossed. Although I did note they said around 100 critically ill in 10 hospitals will get it. Doesnt say if all those have COVID, and doesnt say that is the total, but you can probably take a guess that there's at least 100 critical.

School closure wise, as far as I understand it, schools were told to get ready for this Friday a week or so ago, but it wasnt a definite date. Seeing as the rough plan was always Friday a week or so ago, and this is almost the exact point when schools would have to close anyway due to staffing etc, then you could say their "modelling" was bang on. Could just be a fluke though.

Not to downplay any of this, but really? Isnt that a little bit strong, even if the death rate was 20%, thats still a strong statement.......unless they know something we dont (unlikely)

Now this I agree with. Yes, obviously the government have some affect, and they still have measures yet to be implemented that will help, but it annoys me that people instinctively blame the government for absolutely everything. There's only so much they can do.

I've seen it quoted last week or so that tests were taking up to 4 days, but not seen anything that says they still are. I'm not disputing it by any means, but something up to date would be nice, rather than relying on possible old information.

Have you got a source for this?

I'm not disagreeing with that at all, as thats a possible point. However, surely just the fact you are older naturally makes you more susceptible to death from anything. The elderly are in a higher risk bracket for death in normal seasonal flu, so that would be exacerbated with this virus. Obviously many many other factors too, some that may never be known.

From what google says, smoking is more widespread in Germany than in the UK. Also, the median age is lower in UK than Germany according to Google results. There's numerous studies from China that show smoking doesnt actually have that much affect on catching of the virus, however I should think those with lung problems etc due to smoking are more likely to develop more serious symptoms, but that goes without saying I should think. There still isnt any concrete evidence yet for any main factors, other than age.

You're missing it entirely. The number of ICU beds wont make any difference at this stage, compared to us at least. They could have 500million ICU beds, but if only 200 are occupied, it wouldnt make any difference to the patients outcome. The most likely factor is they are reporting only deaths that are a direct result of COVID, or their actual medical expertise is 3x better than anyone in the world, which is unlikely. It could even at a pinch be that they have a lot less cases than we do, but its all just guessing. All I'm saying is, that the number of ICU beds wont make a difference until they're at capacity.

I agree! I understand if the thread needs to be kept to a certain topic or criteria, then fair enough. But regarding discussing medical opinions or discussing studies on certain drugs etc, then its very interesting to me. Nothing to do with personal health, just an interesting discussion. And no offence to anyone, but if people are going to start or stop taking certain medications because of a theoretical discussion on a weather forum, then thats their problem really. Its all a bit too silly if you ask me.

Yes, but at this stage, it makes no difference whatsoever to the deaths.

Regarding all the anxiety out there. I totally understand everyone's worries, and this is clearly going to affect a lot of people, and could for a while yet. Certain aspects of life will change, some for a short term, and some for the long term, but everyone needs to do their best in their own personal circumstances, and over come it as best they can. Just think of life during WW2. Not knowing if your house was going to be bombed, not knowing if your friends will have made it through the night and be at work the next day, not knowing if your work building will even be there the next day. Then there's the rationing, the families of the armed forces, not only worrying about being bombed themselves, but worrying if your husband/son/brother will make it through another day on the frontline. Then there's the worry of is it all worth it? Early years, and even to a point the later years of WW2, thinking, is all this stiff upper lip worth it, if jerry is just gonna come marching down the street and shoot us all (bare in mind, people had no way of knowing if they'd win or not, seeing as Britain was really all that was left standing). Plus the countless other worries to deal with. As a personal example, my gran was simply walking down the street with a friend, and they got strafed by a 109. They werent hit, but just imagine simply going out to the shops and not knowing if you will live or die. Add on: Also not forgetting all the occupied countries as well. People being shot left right and centre, people scared of going out, everyone looking over their shoulder..... I'm not saying this to belittle anyone worrying, far from it. I guess I'm trying to say that things could be much much worse, and despite all the shenanigans, we're at a better place in time than ever to deal with all this.

Bored of people's politics now, sorry. Simply pointing out there are several other vaccines out there, and on face value at least, USA is miles ahead of anyone. If facts are deemed as political, then I humbly apologise!