mushymanrob

I also use the EPS now as well, that suite often supports the NOAA but as its a daily slider we can spot minor changes within the NOAA anomaly chart mean. I find using both together when they agree has made them even more accurate, and with the EPS going out a little further, gives us a stronger view of the horizon..

NO! It is used on facebook to ridicule someone.... try to produce facts to a flat earther and their response will be a laughing emoji...

didnt see anything over rewa last evening, lindenburg is down, flenny was rather cloudy when i looked. found no sign on any clear webcam.. so its interesting that these showed up.. maybe i didnt give other sites a chance...

This chart is centred on the 29th, and the EPS supports this pattern... But what happens next? ..... EPS Aug 2nd its extent ECM surface anomaly Aug 7th - 14th 500mb anomaly 7th - 14th and ... So there ARE now signs of an improvement, albeit painfully slow , by the second week of August - My favoured NOAA charts will not have this timeframe in view for another week, so this will be a test of the ECM charts to see IF they can nose out a pattern change 3 weeks ahead. This would of course vindicate Tamara, MattH and Scott who have stuck to their guns in predicting an improvement as they have gone to great lengths to explain...

Oh i see someone dislikes my comment refusing to explain why i use the anomalies.... Does that mean they would like me to repeat myself for the umpteenth time? LOL Ive seen dislike being used on posts i have no idea why they have. Like methuselas (or however its spelt) in the mod thread... i cant for the life of me understand why!

Couldnt agree more!

I expect the latest EPS out later will be on the same page , earlier ones were..

Im not going over this yet again. If you think that then scroll on. I dont care. This subject has been done to death, theres a reason why i use these charts as the basic guide ...

Arnie.... how much longer is it realistically possible to see NLCs ?

Well i hope youre right, but theres no sign of anything remotely "improved" on this latest chart that now goes out to August 1st. Although it does seem to be slightly flatter.

.......... to add, i think a person might be put off posting if they construct a good post but because its not what people want to hear, gets a load of negative reactions. if you can sort out the difference between the quality of the post and its message, then fair enough, but that cannot be done. .......... i also am aware that without any reaction facilities then youll never know which are popular...

The problem is..... are they agreeing/disagreeing with what the posts says or the posters analysis?... Ive "liked" posts that were well reasoned and constructed even though i dont like what was said... i mean, the times a well constructed, reasoned post has said something the general crew dont like (mild in winter, cool in summer) gets hardly any reaction ... but a BLAH post, sayiing "boom" or "its coming" , something trite like that gets loads of "likes". The "like" and now "dislike" will have little bearing on the quality of the post, but will be determined by what it says.

that has very little chance of happening..

im back to normal now.... not downplaying covid but for me it was nowt..

Bob the Builder or Bohemian Rhapsody?... both number ones, both popular.... sorry, i want more out of Summer than sunshine and heat alone because imho thats what Summer is... anyway... Ok... the latest EPS for the 28th (centre point of the NOAA chart posted) Clearly supports the NOAA, however if we progress the EPS until the end of its run ... on August 1st, DOES suggest a change with stronger ridging to our West and weaker troughing to our East. These charts are still a million miles away from allowing above average let alone heat - but - its a start, now if only we could get the ridge to drift Eastwards... ECM agrees but doesnt progress any height building This chart agrees too with the Atlantic ridge, but doesnt offer any high pressure dominance before August 6th.. So possible hints of a change, but theres no heat on offer before the second week in August at the earliest.

Nowt on any webcam, mostly cloudy here anyway. Goin to bed! Lol

If youre satisfied with heat and heat alone... fair enough. But IF the latest NOAA charts are anything like accurate then we will have a very long wait for anything above average let alone warm/hot

Youre talking to a professional gardener of 50 years here m8... im telling you that the scented garden flowers i grow, in particular jasmine and lilies, flower from late june the mid August, add the buddlieas that are starting now. I have no idea what you mean. The NOAA couldnt give a damn if they are seen to be "right" or not... IF, after all their years they have been running, havnt found their system to be accurate enough, they wouldnt publish. So im sorry but your post makes no sense. As it happens, im surprised the latest chart i posted has downgraded and chance of recovery... itll be interesting to see if this evenings EPS supports it.

Mitchelin star resturant or a maccy d's ?..... The point is thast yes we can enjoy the decent weather but i would enjoy it MORE, a lot more, when my scented summers flowers are out in full bloom like they are now. If you dont care about the others things that make a summer a summer, thats your choice. Meanwhile things go from bad to worse... These charts have been bang on so far, and this latest suggests conditions get worse, not better as we approach August, but at least Spain cools down (removing the chances of any plume ) IF this chart is anywhere near accurate then theres no heat before the second week of August at the earliest.

Yes, Simon Luckman pictures some faint ones this morning... The question is .... is it worth keeping an eye out now? seeing as its been a poor season, we are now further away fro the solstics than June 1st is... i dont mind making an effort, but ive been dashed so many times during the height of the season. Not sure horizon huggers are worth it tbh.

............. Before we started making seasons "official" they were dictated by daylength... At least up into Saxon times , Spring early Feb- Early may, Summer early May - early August, Autumn early August - early November and Winter early November - early Feb. That fits far better with nature and explains why midsummers day is only 3 days after "the official" start of Summer... official my "r s"

Exactly this....... 2nd half of August is Autumnal.. not so much weather wise but in nature... swifts have gone, NLCs gone, harvest, longer nights... and as i said, my scented plants are in bloom NOW. Summer for me isnt just about heat/sun, the banquet that is Summer has far more to offer .

well ..... We "wrote off " July" several days ago as these consistent NOAA charts are a million miles away from allowing anything remotely warm. Theyd need a complete 180... As they are consistent, then we are a very long way off from anything seasonal. Whether anything emerges in August is atm in the hands of the gods. Its good to see Matt H and Tamara re sticking to their guns and do expect an improvement. But for me - Summer is ruined... my lilies and assorted scented Summer flowers are in bloom NOW... and 2 weeks in June has been forgotten already...

tbh i didnt know i got it.. after getting wet on friday i thought it was just your normal cold... went to bed to sweat it out... only my oh, who was orrly last week, found a covid test, on me... looks like we both had it.. ok now, back to normal.. chhers guys

Got chinese bat disease so wont be venturing out.