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  1. Breakdowns can sometimes show a tendency to be delayed with cold hanging on, but what's amusing is that when these charts appear is the common insistence is that they are wrong and the colder output is more likely, rather than the writing's on the wall.
  2. Talk of a March easterly and 'downwelling' - where is this downwelling from? Sometimes have to face the fact that tropospheric disruptions may follow an SSW but might not actually be directly caused by one.
  3. Andrewsfield data is available quite widely as it is a SYNOP site so is carried by Ogimet for example - enter the WMO number in this form - Form to get daily summaries from synop reports WWW.OGIMET.COM Hourly data can be found by clicking on the dates. Skylink offers a wider range of sites, some that weren't available on weathercast. Not convinced by the accuracy of all the stations but a potentially useful and interesting resource - SkyLinkWeather Aviation - Latest Weather for London Stansted SKYLINKWEATHER.COM Current weat
  4. The thing is the 528 DAM is deceptive, it is representative of the temperature between 1000-500 mb but despite mention of 'deep cold', it is actually concentrated in the lower levels of the atmosphere. Temperatures up towards 500mb are not especially cold relatively speaking - indeed it soon becomes a westerly flow above the easterly lower down. The repercussions of this means it's cold near the surface, which is want you want for snow, however with regards to shower activity it is largely developing below the 800mb level generated by surface forcing, there is limited deep convection.
  5. It's a discussion forum, disagreement should be permitted (unless in the MOD thread, obvs.)
  6. The notable March 2013 snowfall chiefly between 22-24th, a report from the Met Office - https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/weather/learn-about/uk-past-events/interesting/2013/snow-and-low-temperatures-late-march-2013---met-office.pdf
  7. It's not what has been inferred at all, in the same way that it's not been made out the people can't be interested. It has been regularly posted to ignore the precipitation and snow depth charts. Of course showers are parameterised in NWP output, and it isn't always precise, but equally they won't be a million miles out, that's just wishful thinking, unless some trough or other feature etc. materialised. Think your analogy was wrong, you're winning the tenner 😄
  8. Ok, lol, and on these occasions what were depths like in other parts of the country? It's almost like people are insinuating that this area is a match for other areas for snow showers in an easterly, it beggars belief!
  9. People are bigging it up, it's *possible* that there could be widespread notable depths, but the balance of probability is that it is unlikely and it will pale in to insignificance compared to other regions which will be worse affected. Without some frontal activity, that is the reality of the situation for most parts of this region away from the Pennines.
  10. Most of the North west typically gets naff all from an easterly, BFTE was no different. Sure, maybe a few cm here and there, and if that floats your boat then fair enough, but it's not the foot plus that some charts are touting for eg the eastern side of the Pennines or East Anglia.
  11. Indeed, thanks for saving me from explaining it ☺️ The deceptive thing is how far advanced the precipitation is from the front at the surface - so the milder air is not at the back edge of the snow/rain. There is quite a sharp temperature contrast at the surface eg. North Wales 8°C at Capel Curig, 1°C at Lake Vyrnwy 29 miles and 4°C at Rhyl 23 miles distant; in Herefordshire 9°C at Hereford, 4°C at Shobdon 15 miles away. But the rainfall has long cleared these areas.
  12. Actually, to be fair there was sleet for a couple of hours - though more rain than snow. And then at roughly around 5am there was about half an hour of heavy wet snow, oddly as the front mostly passed through and was more likely to expect rain. Left the merest patches on grass and at bottom of windscreens where it slid down and accumulated.
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