Daniel

Concerning gfs this morning in terms of wind speeds blizzards up north aswell

People are looking at the bigger picture. The PV has moved away from greenland which would allow a good chance for cold further on

GEM would lock the cold Weather into Christmas with easterly winds

Those are yesterday's charts mate

Icon first out and it's a stunner

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It's not a regional thread shouldn't be any bias at all. My comments on runs will be for the whole of the uk

12z vs 18z the low is more flat because the pressure is higher on it. Good move from 18z imo if we can get further movement on the high on 0z then it's game on Should note it will likely blow up on further frames. We need more sustained pressure but as I said it's a move in the right direction

high much closer to Iceland. Not perfect but much better compared to 12z. Hopefully we can get enough forcing on the low

The high is better positioned if you ask me on 18z small differences make a big difference for us.

Stronger block into Greenland on 18z...

It's called variation of the theme. The moaning in here whenever we get a slightly different run is ridiculous it miss leads the people in here who are here to learn. The latest gfs dosen't take much longer than 18z to get the bitter cold air in. It just does it in a slightly different way. We have a good Greenland high let's calm down and have some patience!

GEM similar to icon with freezing conditions for Wednesday. If we could delay the arrival with the low a little bit more on GEM we would see mid minus teens 850hpas entering the east. The breakdown looks to be around Thursday ish altho I think we might manage couple more days extra than that away from the far SW

I do agree but with Sundays event delivering 10 to 15cm in parts of EA then comes alone the convective constant snow showers which should add a lot more to it we could be talking 30cm in places. A lot of things have to come into place first so yes I think it's best to keep exspectations low but have an open mind. I certainly would be very happy man if I lived on coastal EA rn

Has the low further west so it takes longer to clear. It's certainly a possible scenario